Articles & Happening Meta Discussion

Articles & Happenings is the third attempt at a news board on the Kiwi Farms. It is a cursed place. Every moderator who has been assigned here has resigned within a year. During 2016, the political crossfire was so bad it spread to different boards and culminated in me banning American news discussion entirely for several months. It has been deleted in its entirety twice. There is no actual discussion here, it's people posting garbage. It leans much further right than the rest of the site and doesn't particularly conduct discussion because dissenting opinions are dogpiled by a thousand memelords posting shit they read on /pol/ without any critical analysis.

The only rules that can be enforced are empirical ones with boolean violation answers. New threads must cite a real source directly and must use the headline of the article as a thread title without any editorializing. Articles must be archived in some way and must link to the original article. Replies that are one word or a reaction images are automatic one-month bans from the board.

I'm creating this now because it seems like this place is here to stay and is one of the largest areas of the entire site. I might as well throw in bare minimum effort to improve it. I don't even try to find mods for here because they will quit, without exception. I've added new prefixes ("Business" and "Crime") just now.

Discuss.


New threads should be made like this.

 

[AprilRains]

You're upset because @It's HK-47 thinks that words are good and bad in context?

 

[Unog]

You're upset

Ah, I get it. I must be upset because I disagreed with something you agreed with. Look, if that's got you hot under the collar, there's no need for that.

because @It's HK-47 thinks that words are good and bad in context?

Read the quote I edited.

 

[AprilRains]

Ah, I get it. I must be upset because I disagreed with something you agreed with. Look, if that's got you hot under the collar, there's no need for that.

No, I think you're upset because you're posting a lot of persiflage with very little underlying content.

Read the quote I edited.

Read it. Pretty meh.

You might stop assuming that people didn't read or understand your very clever arguments. Maybe you just ain't that good.

 

[Unog]

No, I think you're upset because you're posting a lot of persiflage with very little underlying content.

If that's what you clock as someone being upset, either you've been around too many goons for too long, you need to get out more, or both. Also, didn't know two posts was "a lot".

Read it. Pretty meh.

You might stop assuming that people didn't read or understand your very clever arguments. Maybe you just ain't that good.

Sorry that I clearly upset you, but no, I asked that you read it again because what you said had no relation to the post I made. I gave the benefit of the doubt that you weren't just erecting a massive strawman because you're assmad at my posts.

 

[AprilRains]

If that's what you clock as someone being upset, either you've been around too many goons for too long, you need to get out more, or both. Also, didn't know two posts was "a lot".

Nope you're playing silly word games. One post stuffed full of bullshit can be a lot. Certainly it's surplus to requirements.

Sorry that I clearly upset you

The more you repeat that, and add in tells like "clearly", the more I know you're lying.

I'm a bit disappointed in your replies, but that's about it.

 

[Unog]

Nope you're playing silly word games. One post stuffed full of bullshit can be a lot. Certainly it's surplus to requirements.

I like how two words and a short sentence is "stuffed full of bullshit" and "surplus to the requirements".

The more you repeat that, and add in tells like "clearly", the more I know you're lying.

You're right, I am lying. I'm not sorry that you're upset that I disagreed with something you agreed with.

I'm a bit disappointed in your replies, but that's about it.

The feeling's mutual.

 

[It's HK-47]

Read the quote I edited.

Yes, but when people start legitimately raging against trannies and gays to the point where they've earned 20 top hats for the effort, those posts are typically trimmed off too because they're just crappy posts that to do nothing but derail or clutter up a thread. Again, it's not the content that's getting the posts scrubbed out, it's the context. If it's so over-the-top that it becomes some kind of Tarry Davis rant then I'd leave it in because that's funny, but if you think that the moderators don't scrub out comments that are like "fucking trannies I hate trannies hang all the faggots" in a context where it's not a joke then you'd be mistaken.

This seriously is not a language police thing. I do legitimately understand the point that you're trying to make, but that's just not the case.

 

[The Pink Panther]

I'm quite surprised the N word is unregulated here.

Nigga, the nigger word is unregulated everywhere on this site.

We're basically 4chan with better organization and one clear purpose in mind.

 

[Nobunaga]

Nigga, the nigger word is unregulated everywhere on this site.

We're basically 4chan with better organization and one clear purpose in mind.

Farming stickers by posting things our ciclejerks like?

 

[Unog]

Yes, but when people start legitimately raging against trannies and gays to the point where they've earned 20 top hats for the effort, those posts are typically trimmed off too because they're just crappy posts that to do nothing but derail or clutter up a thread. Again, it's not the content that's getting the posts scrubbed out, it's the context. If it's so over-the-top that it becomes some kind of Tarry Davis rant then I'd leave it in because that's funny, but if you think that the moderators don't scrub out comments that are like "fucking trannies I hate trannies hang all the faggots" in a context where it's not a joke then you'd be mistaken.

This seriously is not a language police thing. I do legitimately understand the point that you're trying to make, but that's just not the case.

First, thanks for responding in a manner unlike @AprilRains did.

Second, it worries me because it never tends to stay that way. There's an alarming precedent of "it's okay as long as it's funny" turning into "it's not okay at all". For what it's worth, I do think that you, @Secret Asshole , and if there's anyone else them too, have been doing a great job so far with moderating the joint. I just very, very much dislike that the logic being used here is exactly what was said about many different kinds of humor pre-2010's PC craziness. Hell, I watched the response Joe Rogan did to the ridiculous tar-and-feathering that he got for giving his support to Bernie, and it was pretty damn sad hearing him say pretty much word for word "it's okay if it's just jokes, I thought everybody understood this!".

Also I don't think you, or Secret Asshole, are the kind of people who would give two fucks (other than finding it funny) if someone were ranting about the jewish conspiracy or whatever.

 

[The Pink Panther]

Farming stickers by posting things our ciclejerks like?

To be unrentless, uncaring assholes to one another:

So, let me be the first to say this, but I'll get rated MOTI

Fuck you @the autist of dojima, half-shitpost, more like full-shitpost, because all you are is a piece of shit sitting in a chair wanking it to Fire Emblem porn from >Shadman

 

[It's HK-47]

First, thanks for responding in a manner unlike @AprilRains did.

Second, it worries me because it never tends to stay that way. There's an alarming precedent of "it's okay as long as it's funny" turning into "it's not okay at all". For what it's worth, I do think that you, @Secret Asshole , and if there's anyone else them too, have been doing a great job so far with moderating the joint. I just very, very much dislike that the logic being used here is exactly what was said about many different kinds of humor pre-2010's PC craziness. Hell, I watched the response Joe Rogan did to the ridiculous tar-and-feathering that he got for giving his support to Bernie, and it was pretty damn sad hearing him say pretty much word for word "it's okay if it's just jokes, I thought everybody understood this!".

At some point down the road it might turn into an issue, but that's really more of a "Who gets hired next" issue than it is anything to do with the rules. I'm reasonably certain that at no point in the future Null's going to be bothered by mean words, though, considering the ability to come to the Kiwi Farms and say no-no words is one of the things that keeps money rolling into his bank account. There's always been a caveat to that, though, hence the rating.

The other side of that sword would be just as bad, though. I'm a huge fan of "hands-off moderation" because I think too much of it is a fantastic way to kill a community and replace them all with nothing but boot-lickers, but at the same time it's almost impossible to have a community that requires no moderation. I know that on the surface it can very easily look like the start of language policing, but the reality of it is that I'd rather A&H not wind up with 10+ pages on every single thread filled with nothing but legitimate rage-posting.

I don't really care about what they're rage-posting at all, more-so that they're rage-posting to begin with. The whole "Don't get angry about dumb stuff on the internet" has been an established 'board culture' on the Farms for a long time now. Beyond that, though, even if the entire staff somehow got filled to the brim with pink-haired woke-scolds, what good would any of the rules do even if we "Set them in stone" and made them agonizingly, autistically defined?

The rules would get scrubbed and we'd all still get kicked out.

 

[Nobunaga]

To be unrentless, uncaring assholes to one another:

So, let me be the first to say this, but I'll get rated MOTI

Fuck you @the autist of dojima, half-shitpost, more like full-shitpost, because all you are is a piece of shit sitting in a chair wanking it to Fire Emblem porn from >Shadman

How dare you, fucking black furry
I hope you get shot in the crack den you call your house

 

[The Pink Panther]

How dare you, fucking black furry
I hope you get shot in the crack den you call your house

I hope I do get shot in the crack, because I won't feel anything.

I'm neutered.

 

[Unog]

At some point down the road it might turn into an issue, but that's really more of a "Who gets hired next" issue than it is anything to do with the rules. I'm reasonably certain that at no point in the future Null's going to be bothered by mean words, though, considering the ability to come to the Kiwi Farms and say no-no words is one of the things that keeps money rolling into his bank account. There's always been a caveat to that, though, hence the rating.

The other side of that sword would be just as bad, though. I'm a huge fan of "hands-off moderation" because I think too much of it is a fantastic way to kill a community and replace them all with nothing but boot-lickers, but at the same time it's almost impossible to have a community that requires no moderation. I know that on the surface it can very easily look like the start of language policing, but the reality of it is that I'd rather A&H not wind up with 10+ pages on every single thread filled with nothing but legitimate rage-posting.

I don't really care about what they're rage-posting at all, more-so that they're rage-posting to begin with. The whole "Don't get angry about dumb stuff on the internet" has been an established 'board culture' on the Farms for a long time now. Beyond that, though, even if the entire staff somehow got filled to the brim with pink-haired woke-scolds, what good would any of the rules do even if we "Set them in stone" and made them agonizingly, autistically defined?

The rules would get scrubbed and we'd all still get kicked out.

I actually think having autistically defined rules is one of the ways that such a slide could be kept from happening, and how people can be reassured that if their post/thread gets deleted, it's not merely tone policing. It would be something for staff to point to for people who can't get it through their heads that not getting autistically MOTI is one of the requirements, and otoh it would be something for someone who feels like they didn't break a rule to point to if they actually didn't.

I do get where you're coming from a bit better now, though.

 

[X Prime]

@Unog is correct for the very same reason @3119967d0c is correct about wanting a rule explicitly defined.

Moderation based on undefined or fuzzy rules is one of the reasons Something Awful is like it is. It tends to become highly arbitrary, clique-based, et cetera.

 

[Superman93]

Ah, I get it. I must be upset because I disagreed with something you agreed with. Look, if that's got you hot under the collar, there's no need for that.



Read the quote I edited.

No, I think you're upset because you're posting a lot of persiflage with very little underlying content.


Read it. Pretty meh.

You might stop assuming that people didn't read or understand your very clever arguments. Maybe you just ain't that good.

You’re both passive aggressive faggots who spent too much time telling the world how not upset you are. If the other guy is getting on your nerves call him a re-tard. Throw some banter every once in a while instead of going “no u”.

 

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Nigga, the nigger word is unregulated everywhere on this site.

This is really the question though, isn't it?

We know perfectly well that noone's seriously talking about censoring discussions of people's motivations based on them being nigger-words, or people of the bean, or 'goat fucking Arabs'.. but there is a different standard in practice for good faith discussion about a certain group.

I think he's (rather hilarious) trying to imply that Null or the mods are controlled by (((Them))).

I believe you know very well that I'm not describing every mod or Null as controlled by the Jews, nor am I suggesting that there are not perfectly rational practical reasons why serious good faith discussion about the Jews might be banned.

 

[AprilRains]

You’re both passive aggressive faggots who spent too much time telling the world how not upset you are. If the other guy is getting on your nerves call him a re-tard. Throw some banter every once in a while instead of going “no u”.

Fuck, you're right. If it ain't funny, it don't belong here.

Thanks for the reminder.

 

[Unog]

You’re both passive aggressive faggots who spent too much time telling the world how not upset you are. If the other guy is getting on your nerves call him a re-tard. Throw some banter every once in a while instead of going “no u”.

You're a few posts and an hour and a half late with your scintillating hot take, retard.