Are strict parents responsible for troons? - Sheltered, lonely kids want a sense of belonging

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I would say that I think that the way that some families raise their kids with strict ideas about gender is one potential cause, for some people.

Like, every kid rebels against their parents. If the thing that they're giving their children in the first place is: "boys wear these arbitrary clothes, and girls wear these ones; boys act like this, girls act like this," which is unrelated to actual bodily sexual dimorphism, but instead with some social 'trend', then in the first place, people grow up without a strong idea of what 'gender' really is...

The individual may just like dressing a certain way, but... combine that kind of Shitstorm of Rebellion with the social miasma of the Trannypocalypse, and you've got a bunch of tards transitioning because they think it'll be more fulfilling to live as a mutilated and sexless nullo; rather than to be themselves and accept what body they were born with, AND what their interests and life plans are... and that they can fulfill their goals without having to 'dip in' to the gender-role of their birth sex.

I see conservatives shitting their pants about 'groomers'; but I really think a lot of the time, those types of people already laid the foundation by not facing reality themselves.
Whether that takes the form of a retarded religion, or something else.
 
Where's Waldo? said:
I would say that I think that the way that some families raise their kids with strict ideas about gender is one potential cause, for some people.

Like, every kid rebels against their parents. If the thing that they're giving their children in the first place is: "boys wear these arbitrary clothes, and girls wear these ones; boys act like this, girls act like this," which is unrelated to actual bodily sexual dimorphism, but instead with some social 'trend', then in the first place, people grow up without a strong idea of what 'gender' really is...

The individual may just like dressing a certain way, but... combine that kind of Shitstorm of Rebellion with the social miasma of the Trannypocalypse, and you've got a bunch of tards transitioning because they think it'll be more fulfilling to live as a mutilated and sexless nullo; rather than to be themselves and accept what body they were born with, AND what their interests and life plans are... and that they can fulfill their goals without having to 'dip in' to the gender-role of their birth sex.

I see conservatives shitting their pants about 'groomers'; but I really think a lot of the time, those types of people already laid the foundation by not facing reality themselves.
Whether that takes the form of a retarded religion, or something else.
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The parents of troons blogs I mention are almost 100% liberals who emphasize that they let their kid play with anything and wear what they want and were practically excited about the prospect of having a gay kid. A number of the parents are lesbians or bi themselves.

Kids don't troon out to go from gay failure to straight conformist anymore. They troon out to escape being a "boring vanilla straight cis normie" who is responsible for the ills of the world, to being a special gay glittercorn who gets applause for existing.
 
Kids have a natural desire for attention, but they're vying for it against boxed wine and the latest in Disney+ Marvel content. If troonism goes away, another coping mechanism will take its place as parents continue to live on their phones.
 
I believe that strict parents shoulder the blame, along with the other side: Overly permissive parents. Timid, weak willed parents who are afraid to do anything perceived as "uncool."

Control freak parents create sneaky, rebellious kids. They'll frequently rebel by turning to a sodomite lifestyle.

If you want to protect your kids, the last thing you want to do is to chase them into the arms of whoever, or whatever, you want to protect them from through your shitty, overbearing behavior.
 
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Larry David's Opera Cape said:
The parents of troons blogs I mention are almost 100% liberals who emphasize that they let their kid play with anything and wear what they want and were practically excited about the prospect of having a gay kid. A number of the parents are lesbians or bi themselves.

Kids don't troon out to go from gay failure to straight conformist anymore. They troon out to escape being a "boring vanilla straight cis normie" who is responsible for the ills of the world, to being a special gay glittercorn who gets applause for existing.
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The ones that I'm talking about are from the troon-mouths themselves.

I don't doubt that there are plenty like you describe, but I think that there are also some like I have described. If you go on tumblr you can still find plenty of girls bitching because their parents won't let them cut their hair short, or whatever kinda crap.

Also, I feel like the conservatives could be less likely to blog about it in the same manner as those liberals, due to shame and pride.
 
Cup Noodle said:
I grew up on the internet in the late 90's and early 2000's unsupervised. That was a wild time that could let you turn into any kind of degenerate. The modern internet only lets you turn into one type of degenerate that offends my sensibilities. I'll make my kids Judas Priest's (Jehovah's Witnesses.) before I let them become commie turd burglars.

I homeschool. It's the only way really. Otherwise you are throwing your children into a hive a hive of villainy. Hell I live in a pretty damn conservative part of the world, but when my kids (all boys) were going to school they were lorded over by a all female staff. From teacher to principal it was all female. There was one male coach, but he weirded me out and was probably hired by the female principal. I'm pretty sure he likes prepubescent penis. Kids didn't stay there long.
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Good on you for homeschooling. I was never homeschooled, but I'm glad my younger siblings are. And my parents are better off for doing it, too. Less stress and chaos from the public school system. Public school almost turned me into a sheep, until I found friends that changed that and began forming my own opinions.
 
From personal experience, being heavily involved in a child's life and being consistently open and honest about yourself, your beliefs, and the world at large is the best antidote. A kid who gets plenty of attention isn't going to take up deranged behaviors to start acting out, and an appropriately-aged kid who genuinely knows what troonery is and what happens to those who undergo it won't want that either.
 
If we're going to explore the strict parent route, it's important to differentiate between strict parents with discipline (both for themselves and their kids) and strict parents without discipline. Strict parents who discipline will produce healthier kids because they themselves are modelling healthy behaviours (healthy eating, exercise, balance between studying, being social, and hobbies and interests). Strict parents without discipline tend to micromanage and focus on the shiny surface instead of providing a solid foundation. Those without discipline tend to think of themselves as being exactly like those with it and don't understand why they're getting a different result.

Parents who micromanage don't know how to progressively ease up and give their child more room to make choices, this being in reference to age appropriate ones. Walking home from school, exploring a ravine, riding a bike somewhere, etc. They don't let their kids have time to just be authentic with their friends, which ends up majorly backfiring during adolescence. This is where reliance on the Internet for social and emotional developmental milestones starts to become a huge problem. Instead of just hanging out in one friend's basement shooting the shit and coming to conclusions about the world around you, you have a kid whose only social interaction is in a chatroom with groomers. Instead of being blissfully unaware of the parties their socially normal peers are going to, your kid is getting a feed full of undisputed proof that there is something wrong with them. You can't filter your kid into a friend group full of followers who are too scared to piss you off once in a while and then wonder why they end up the rejects.

If it wasn't turning into a troon, the kid would become some other form of lolcow we'd be mocking on this website.
 
stupid frog said:
If strict parents made troons, every single Asian kid would be a tranny.
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They made futa and anime twinks, so...
Cup Noodle said:
I grew up on the internet in the late 90's and early 2000's unsupervised. That was a wild time that could let you turn into any kind of degenerate. The modern internet only lets you turn into one type of degenerate that offends my sensibilities. I'll make my kids Judas Priest's (Jehovah's Witnesses.) before I let them become commie turd burglars.
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I think now these degenerates have power over 100s of people and can empower their own and silence disenters.

Sure it was like this back then to a lesser degree, but they controlled maybe a forum or a small community. Now they moderate 20 subreddits and 60 discords, over 10000s of users.

Internet was more fractured back then, and you didn't have ONE official community or ONE official forum, you had 5 or 10 or something managed by different people. Now there's one and these people are all in charge.
 
Uberpenguin said:
Not raising one's kids definitely helps, if you don't someone else will.

That said blaming parenting styles is tough because in a lot of cases there's nothing a parent could've done. They simply don't have the resources or community necessary to raise children without malicious outside influences getting to them, and the world has changed so much so quickly I don't know if it's even reasonable to have expected any of them to have seen it coming.

If you're a helicopter parent your kids will wind up being helpless and falling into it more around college age, and if you aren't they'll get groomed into it earlier. Without finding a proper environment, there is nothing a person can do that will stop it.


Well ok, that's fine and dandy when they're young, but as they get older they're going to develop increasingly independent personalities and start saying "fuck dad" way more often, and there will perennially be an entire army of creeps willing to whisper sweet nothings in their ears, telling them they're right and you suck in order to lure them away. What will you do, kick em' out? First of all parents rarely actually follow through on that, second of all those creeps will be overjoyed to give them a place to live.

They're home schooled, who are their friends? How are you finding social activities for them to be involved in where they're making healthy connections and learning how to function interpersonally? One of the benefits of schools is stuff like sports and clubs.
Degeneracy is one small part of this, a need for fulfillment and a need for community are some of the bigger ones, meaning you keeping your kids away from school and depriving them of learning how to operate in a harsh social environment is going to just make them feel even more alienated even more willing to fall into whichever cult they first encounter.

Every single parent makes all kinds of declarations about their kids and how nothing is going to go wrong with them right up until those teenage years where they realize they have no idea what they're doing and the ego gets slapped right out of their heads.
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Reiketa actually addressed this in response to a superchat much more eloquently than I could ever do it. Assuming you are full grown adult now, have you ever met a fresh out of highschool kid. In the real world they are social retards. They have been coddled in a hive. They know nothing of the real world or how to interact with it. As far as adults are concerned those graduates are fucking retards. My kids get to interact with other kids their age raised in the system and they come back telling me how those kids are all a bunch of brats. I say this as I have to yell at one of my kids to stop being a bitch and git gud in the game he is playing in the background. Anyways, I'm prepping my kids for the real fucking world. I'm not putting them in a box full of niggers and retards and making them adapt. They get a taste of the real world every day and are learning how to become proper adults. This was basically the way it was done for forever before our modern hellscape. They get their reading, writing, arithmetic, etc. but they are also watching documentaries to widen their general knowledge, learning foreign languages and cultures to expand their grasp of the world and learning how to just do adult things. My kids also have an open invitation to take me on if they feel like it. I have all boys so I can do this. They know that if they ever feel like it they have the right to take me on hand to hand. I doubt it ever comes to that though. I'm not some prude that keeps my kids from the world. I'm a prude that keeps my kids close to my heart. We talk about the world. I give the best advice I can. We laugh at stupid memes together and then I tell them to do their damn chores because life is work whether you like it or not. Puberty is coming soon and I'm preparing for that. My end goal is to set them up for a life where they answer to no other man though. I want to give them the skills to at least secure a high paying job, but preferably starting their own businesses. I don't know about your experience in the world, but from mine bitches just flow from that. There will be perils along the way, but I care enough for my kids to endure them.
 
lol wut? Parents of troons almost all basically fit into 3 archetypes.

  1. Absent/neglectful father households
  2. Sexually abusive, or openly sexually degenerate parents
  3. Household dominated by a highly permissive mother
Off the top of my head, I can not think of a single troon that's been posted about here whose parents don't fit fairly neatly into one or more of these three categories.
 
mr.moon1488 said:
lol wut? Parents of troons almost all basically fit into 3 archetypes.

  1. Absent/neglectful father households
  2. Sexually abusive, or openly sexually degenerate parents
  3. Household dominated by a highly permissive mother
Off the top of my head, I can not think of a single troon that's been posted about here whose parents don't fit fairly neatly into one or more of these three categories.
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Permissive but also fretful and controlling. She'll let you go on the internet unattended, and buy you anime slut clothes. But she also drags you to the doctor for a full work-up if your nose twitches, and has a detailed vision (documented in a Leslie Knope style binder) for your future education, career, and marriage or homosexuality.
 
You can't fool someone into being something they aren't. If kids were deciding to become trannies because of people grooming them on the internet we would see a lot more of this than we actually do. Considering how many people have access to the internet these days. The internet has become the babysitter that TV was for generation X and millennials. We would see a lot more kids claiming to be trannies.

It's most likely just mental illness. Possibly parents putting them up to it. Single mothers are good for this kind of shit. Whenever I read a story about a kid being transgender it was usually a single mother. Divorced women looking to get back at their ex-husbands. Some women can be quite evil. You left me so I am going to turn your son into a girl. Some of the older ones might be doing it because it's like a fad.

If you don't like broccoli staring at pictures of it isn't going to make you like it. Looking at pictures of penises isn't going to make you gay.

There is something wrong with these kids from the start. I guess they could be weak minded and fall for the power of suggestion easier than most people.
 
Tacitus Kilgore said:
If you don't like broccoli staring at pictures of it isn't going to make you like it. Looking at pictures of penises isn't going to make you gay.
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You just discovered that advertising and marketing don't work- some people are going to be very upset if this is true.

No one buys a new gadget because of advertising saturating every sphere they exist in. They inherently want and need the gadget deep in their souls. Right.
 
Larry David's Opera Cape said:
You just discovered that advertising and marketing don't work- some people are going to be very upset if this is true.

No one buys a new gadget because of advertising saturating every sphere they exist in. They inherently want and need the gadget deep in their souls. Right.
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There is a big difference between trying to convince someone they need some consumer product and trying to convince someone they need to change their gender.
 
I don't buy the idea that rules, standards, and structure for your children ensures that they'll be rebellious. Barring some outliers it's the opposite in my experience. Nearly everyone I know who have problems holding down a job or substance abuse issues either had absentee parents or parents that never set boundaries or told them no.
 
I'm not a parent, but the way I see it is that there's a very fine line you have to walk between leniency and strictness. Too much leniency and you're a pushover, your kid's not gonna respect you, and is gonna fail in life, end up in prison, on drugs, trooned out, etc. Too much strictness and you're an asshole, your kid's not gonna respect you and just hate you instead, and is gonna fail in life, end up in prison, on drugs, trooned out, etc.

You've got to be just lenient enough that your child's happy and you can have a loving relationship with them, but just strict enough that they don't think they can do whatever retarded shit they want and fuck up their life. Don't be an anarchist but don't be a dictator, basically.
 
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