Are new vehicles designed like shit?

[SandyCat]

My 25 year old Mercedes s430 made in 2000 only needed a new radiator and some shocks along with the typical new tires, batteries and brake pads every so many years. Everyone else I know has gone thorough 3 or 4 vehicles in that time and they're constantly breaking down.

I wanted to buy something new but its making me very hesitant

 

[milhouse1776]

I like Hondas. Always been good and reliable.

 

[VargReallyDidNothingWrong]

Everyone else I know has gone thorough 3 or 4 vehicles in that time and they're constantly breaking down.

To answer your question - yes, modern cars are made like shit.

Engine-wise: modern engines have been brought to the razor's edge of reliability in order to pass ever-more-stringent emissions tests, they use super thin/small components to minimize the mass of the parts (better fuel economy) but this negatively impacts longevity. Lots of modern engines start burning oil after the first 50-60k miles because the oil control rings are so thin that they quickly coke up with carbon deposits (exacerbated by modern oil change intervals being insanely long for no reason).

Other shit: a LOT of stuff is unrepairable, or if it's repairable, it's all tied together with serialized stuff that can't be fixed and must be swapped as a unit (if even that is allowed). We've all seen the stories of a broken taillight costing 4k to fix because you can't just swap the burned out part, it needs to be replaced as an entire unit.

Everything has way too much complexity and computerization, touchscreen controlled everything, etc.

I would not buy any vehicle newer than 2009. Personally speaking, anyway.

 

[Penis Drager 2.0]

No. They just got better at what they're designed to do.
That would be making their manufacturers money.

 

[Pee Cola]

Yes. New vehicles are fucking shit.

This is the ideal vehicle. You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like.

 

[Nicholas Gur]

Unfortunately its kinda hard to find older vehicles that are undamaged or reasonably priced (considering a 250k+ mile motor is basically assumed to be finished) Personally I hate all the new shit not due to their build quality, but all the new faggot ass electronic bullshit you can't opt of.

Wouldn't it be cool if your car automatically shut off at every stop? What if it slowed down your cruise control to match pace of some dumbass boomer driving 20 under in your lane? How about wrenching control away from you because you swerved over the yellow line intentionally to avoid a hazard and the sensor thinks you're fucking retarded because it lacks any sort of driving experience?

 

[Nice Comoesta 🔰]

Built-in obsolescence.
If a manufacturer sells a car that lasts 500,000 miles with only basic service, (ENTIERLY POSSIBLE) Thats 500,000 miles where said manufacturer ISNT making money off of the common man who (reasonably) does not have time to gather the skill and rescources for advanced services.
He either goes to a dealer who is giving a cut back to the manufacturer, or he buys another car, keeping the carousel of buisness turning.
And you can never stop the Carousel, Merideth.

 

[User names must be unique]

no they are designed perfectly, it's just that they are designed to be shit.

 

[Lapsus of the bepsus]

you lucked out getting a turn of millennium s class that hasnt had all the wiring literally disintegrate
but yeah youre right

 

[VargReallyDidNothingWrong]

This is the ideal vehicle. You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like.
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The 2006 Honda Fit / Jazz truly is optimal car for the everyman.

 

[dick brain]

Yes. New vehicles are fucking shit.

This is the ideal vehicle. You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like.

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That's not an Element.

 

[Nice Comoesta 🔰]

That's not an Element.

Warn a nigga before speaking that word.
Nice Comoesta legit had a baby barf.

 

[pp.]

I saw a vid the other day where criminals were stealing some sensor from the front of a car and the sensor was 1500 bucks and took 0.01 seconds to remove, my 90s car doesn't have that sensor and works just fine why do new cars need it so much?