The problem with Macs back then was the outrageous pricing on software and then hardware. The product was a good product and I would have stayed using a Mac, BUT FUCK YOU on price gouging back then and FUCK YOU NOW on price gouging now. I built my own PC while learning DOS and never looked back.
I REFUSE to deal with "Close Garden" products as even this old man is heading towards Linux (Zorin) in a few months.
The problem with Macs back then was the outrageous pricing on software and then hardware. The product was a good product and I would have stayed using a Mac, BUT FUCK YOU on price gouging back then and FUCK YOU NOW on price gouging now. I built my own PC while learning DOS and never looked back.
I REFUSE to deal with "Close Garden" products as even this old man is heading towards Linux (Zorin) in a few months.
I prefer macOS just in terms of not having to deal with a constantly changing AD, expired root CA’s from China and the command line module with no standardization. I have a zsh and bsh shell. I also don’t need to have the Plan9 network on top as well as not needing an independent wireless card to do promiscuous monitoring.
I hated it for C++, but I love it for rust. But, I’m most likely changing to PopOS because then I have the benefits of linux with LTS and (hopefully) lack of driver issues.
I still have a 2008 iPhone that works fine after 13 years of daily use, idk if Apple or anybody else makes consumer electronics to last like that anymore.
How the fuck? iPhones before the 5s really struggled to keep up with the times because the processors really weren’t there yet, and having used some freinds’ 3G/3GS’s back in the day 2-3 years after release it was just painfully slow.
Everything 5s and beyond however, has much better longevity and is still usable today, nearly a decade later, without being unbearably sluggish. I use my mom’s old 5s to control my 3D printer and it doesn’t make me want to kill myself.
I prefer macOS just in terms of not having to deal with a constantly changing AD, expired root CA’s from China and the command line module with no standardization. I have a zsh and bsh shell. I also don’t need to have the Plan9 network on top as well as not needing an independent wireless card to do promiscuous monitoring.
I hated it for C++, but I love it for rust. But, I’m most likely changing to PopOS because then I have the benefits of linux with LTS and (hopefully) lack of driver issues.
On bigSur, with the intel chip, the window server will sometimes make my laptop hum and fry bacon. It’s a huge reason I won’t do another mac. I have too much bloatware, and it’s only going to get worse as they make their own stuff.
On bigSur, with the intel chip, the window server will sometimes make my laptop hum and fry bacon. It’s a huge reason I won’t do another mac. I have too much bloatware, and it’s only going to get worse as they make their own stuff.
What do you mean bloatware would get worse as they make their own CPUs? Macs don't come with much bloatware at all, and the few things you don't want can be easily uninstalled...unlike some other OSes.
Anyway I've been on an M1 for a little while and it never heats up much, even under very heavy work loads it gets slightly warm to the touch at most. Most of the time it's not even warm.
What do you mean bloatware would get worse as they make their own CPUs? Macs don't come with much bloatware at all, and the few things you don't want can be easily uninstalled...unlike some other OSes.
Anyway I've been on an M1 for a little while and it never heats up much, even under very heavy work loads it gets slightly warm to the touch at most. Most of the time it's not even warm.
Same thing as the PPC era. Imagine if they'd released a Powerbook with a G5, that might have been the hottest running laptop ever released.
I can’t change the window server, I have a bunch of random daemons, the game controller daemon for example, I have 0 clue what it does, but it’s always on. I have constant checks with various apple endpoints with 0 clue what they are used for. Open up a http proxy sometime and see how many weird calls your OS will make to various endpoints.
I don’t need spotlight, Xcode is basically the worst ide I’ve ever had to use and the Xcode server will hog resources out the ass.
the watchdog daemon will shut off your machine if it doesn’t get a legit response from the mother ship with the remote daemon.
Safari is legit bloatware too, I have no use for it.
the App Store is annoying, they claim it makes things secure but they still must have a garbage code review process because it sucks either way.
On bigSur, with the intel chip, the window server will sometimes make my laptop hum and fry bacon. It’s a huge reason I won’t do another mac. I have too much bloatware, and it’s only going to get worse as they make their own stuff.
One of the hosts is chief culprit for Tumblr, Marco Arment (which sounds Armenian but is probably French).
Arment, despite having a wife (probably a beard) and two children who are supposedly his lives most of the year on Fire Island, which is exclusively populated by homosexuals and, I suppose, the odd fag hag.
At the end of the latest episode, he had a great testimony for Airtags. He had attached one to his bike, on the assumption that an Airtag would never be more than 20 yards from an iPhone on Fire Island (or from two or more homosexuals sodomizing each other in full view of 'his' children, but I repeat myself).
He went to an art festival and a fellow homosexual stole his bike to make the next ferry sailing in time (literally like 500 yards away). The Airtag led him straight to where the bike was abandoned! The Apple system worked for those it is intended for!
One of the hosts is chief culprit for Tumblr, Marco Arment (which sounds Armenian but is probably French).
Arment, despite having a wife (probably a beard) and two children who are supposedly his lives most of the year on Fire Island, which is exclusively populated by homosexuals and, I suppose, the odd fag hag.
At the end of the latest episode, he had a great testimony for Airtags. He had attached one to his bike, on the assumption that an Airtag would never be more than 20 yards from an iPhone on Fire Island (or from two or more homosexuals sodomizing each other in full view of 'his' children, but I repeat myself).
He went to an art festival and a fellow homosexual stole his bike to make the next ferry sailing in time (literally like 500 yards away). The Airtag led him straight to where the bike was abandoned! The Apple system worked for those it is intended for!
Used to listen just for John Siracusa who I liked from his 'Hypercritical' podcast days and seems like a spergy passionate dude who is basically Terry Davis without the schizo.
Stopped listening when that Casey dude threw a tantrum on air about his dumb ass chatbot was being 'hacked' by listeners. His whining and tech-illiteracy is super irritating.
Used to listen just for John Siracusa who I liked from his 'Hypercritical' podcast days and seems like a spergy passionate dude who is basically Terry Davis without the schizo.
Stopped listening when that Casey dude threw a tantrum on air about his dumb ass chatbot was being 'hacked' by listeners. His whining and tech-illiteracy is super irritating.
My listening to ATP has mostly turned into hate-listening by this point.
Which is a shame because Siracusa has good takes about, specifically, the tech side of things. His opinions on anything else are garbage, and he is annoyingly beligerant about them.
He's bemoaned the lack of women and minorities in Apple's keynote events, lectured his daughter about feminism (which I know because he bragged about it on one of his podcasts), whenever someone talks about making the show more inclusive to non-white-male listeners it's almost always him, and he's no doubt a corrupting influence on the other two hosts.
But the thing that made me lose the last of my respect for him was the Follow-up™ to episode 379. They'd talked that week about Joe Rogan's deal with Spotify, and what this could mean for the podcasting industry. No opinions were expressed about the man's politics, but it seems like a couple of listeners complained that the show didn't go out of its way to condemn Joe for being a bigot. So in episode 380 (43:35 is the timestamp), Siracusa instantly caves, and goes into an unterrupted five-minute spergout about why Joe Rogan is bad (and of course he totally wanted to mention it last week) and that you need to question the morality of enjoying Joe Rogan.
He mostly bases this off one Atlantic article from 2019 and confesses that he knows next to nothing about Rogan, besides this and what he's heard from "marginalized people" who say Joe Rogan is harmful. From the context, and from the way he brazenly mocks the idea of this most downtrodden group society having such a powerful political lobby, I'd assume he's referring to trans people.
He even manages to slip in a reference to how privileged the three of them are as podcasters for having managed to get this far in life without ever needing to learn the horrible truth about Joe Rogan's bigotry.
I’ve never listened to a... episode of the Joe Rogan podcast, but I have read about it. And I know enough about him that I should have, and actually meant to but never got around to, say something about him that basically--All this is to say that ATP doesn’t endorse Joe Rogan. [Chuckles]
We either don’t know anything about him, or what we know about him, we don’t like. So I will put a link in the show notes to the one thing I have read about Joe Rogan, which is why I know he is not a particularly great character and his show is not a particularly positive thing in some aspects. It’s from the Atlantic, it’s a couple years old--Oh wait no, it’s just from 2019. I encourage you to read it. Uhh, lots of people dislike him. He holds some very... bigoted, uh, views on certain topics.
And I didn’t wanna make it sound like we were endorsing him last time, but this brings up an interesting point, sort of a meta-point about this, which is: how is it that the three of us, who are in the podcasting world, uhh, don’t know about like, the biggest podcaster in the world? Like, is it because we just spend time, as Marco mentioned last time, just listening to podcasts that with narr--very narrow interests, and we’re in our own little corner of the world?
Yeah, part of it is that. But also part of it is something that we got called out on by a couple people last, uh, episode, which is that, we have the luxury of not knowing that one of the most popular podcasters in the world is saying things that are hurtful, uhh, you know, to marginalized people on their show, because it’s not directly harmful to us, so we don’t hear about it in our circles and we can be blissfully unaware that there is someone out there talking to millions and millions of people saying very harmful things, giving platforms to people who say harmful things. In fact people that we would all recognize as bad - Alex Jones, we all know him, right? He’s terrible, right? Joe Rogan has him on the podcast and is ‘buddy old pal’ with him, and got real mad at him at one point but then had him back on the show. This is all in the article, whatever.
Again, I don’t know much about Joe Rogan. I don’t know what his deal is. I don’t know exactly how good or bad he is as a person, but I do know that his show just seems to have lots of aspects to it that are extremely, uhh... harmful, let’s say. Uh, and the fact we don’t know about it just... reveals our position of privilege that we can afford to not know about it, and we can afford to do an entire episode of a show where the actual person who has this podcast doesn’t come up at all, right?
And so, you know, our ignorance is not necessarily an excuse, but it is a fact and it is, you know, it is part of--It is part of the whole thing. Like how can--In the same way that Joe Rogan can have people on the show and be like all ‘buddy old pal’ with them and, you know, just hanging out and talk like two dudes, right? Because everything they talk about doesn't impact them in their position. That’s the same way that we can manage to talk about the business of podcasting and never actually mention Joe Rogan. So I think, we made a mistake to at least not mention that there.
And the second thing is, say you’re listening to this now and you’re listening to Joe Rogan and you’re saying "Hey, are you saying I’m a bad person 'cause I listen to Joe Rogan?" Again, I don’t know. I don’t listen to his show. For all I know, he does good things and bad things, all right? But, like, I do know that some of the things as he’s done should make you maybe think twice about it? That doesn’t mean you’re automatically a bad person. Like, Marco and I both listen to Howard Stern, who has at various times done some very terrible things, right? Uhh, no person is entirely good or bad, but it does behoove you to... if you’re going to listen to... a podcast like Joe Rogan, to be aware, uhh, that some of the things he does and says are harmful to people, maybe not you, but to other people.
And in general, say you don’t know anything about somebody like ‘Well i don’t even listen to that show. I don’t know anything about him. I can just--I can just wipe my hands of it and say "Well, since I never listen to this show, I’m not gonna offer any opinion whatsoever on Joe Logan [sic] cause how can I? if I don’t listen to the show, [puts on mocking voice] wouldn’t it be unfair of me to say anything about Joe Rogan? Or would that be unfair for me to... read this article and somehow believe bad things about Joe Rogan? You don’t even listen to the show."
One of the things that I think is useful to keep in mind is that, if there’s someone in the world who is doing something to harm a particular group, and that group tells you "Hey, this guy is saying and doing things that hurt us," it’s okay to believe them! [Cohosts laugh] It’s okay to say "I don’t--Y’know, I don’t listen to this show, but these people over here say that this guy is doing and saying things that are harmful to them, believe them!” Like they’re not doing it for the hell of it, right?
There’s not a vendetta, right, out to get Joe Rogan because this marginalized group, [puts on mocking voice] this incredibly powerful marginalized group, y’know, the incredibly powerful like... lobby of this... the, y’know, most downtrodden group is trying to stop the most powerful podcaster in the world, believe them! So, I do believe them.
They tell me he’s doing and saying things that are harmful to them, and I don’t think that’s great and so I think if you listen to Joe Rogan and enjoy it, maybe... read this article, think more critically about what you hear. Listen to what other people have to say about Joe Rogan. Maybe it will change your opinion, maybe it won’t. I’m not saying you’re a bad person for listening, but it seems like Joe Rogan might be kind of a bad person.
But I think the last last straw for me was when all three hosts gave weekly updates about their vaccination status, and repeatedly nagged listeners to get the jab also (despite the fact that two of them got ill from the side-effects). Marco Arment once commented on how weird it felt to walk outside without wearing a mask after his state rolled back its mask mandate.
Arment was also (by way of his Overcast podcast app) one of the tech faggots who deplatformed Alex Jones in 2018 (you can still play his shows in the app, but not search for them), and also featured a selection of diverse voices in the app last year because people rioted for a drug addict.
Also, Casey Liss used the nicknames 'Sprout' and 'Sprig' for his then-unborn children, which doesn't bother me, I just thought it was kinda cringe.
Liss is actually the one I find the least annoying, and the least interesting. He probably has like 95% of the same political opinions as the other two, but he's not as outspoken about them, and I think there's a reason for that. He's pretty much a normie as far as the other two are concerned, to the point that, sometimes, he'll attempt a half-arsed explanation, only for John to realise what he was talking about and explain it better.
When people realise they're extremely knowledgeable about certain topics, and seen as authorities on those topics, there develops a kind of false modesty. They know they weren't born knowledgeable - they acquired that knowledge through research, which means they'd be just as capable of applying the same understanding to other topics. It goes to their heads. They seem to think they must be right about everything if they just apply the right mind to it. They'll be right about Joe Rogan if they listen to trans people and boost their voices, and they'll be right about COVID too if they just "listen to the scientists!"
It's the only way I can explain why so many smart people would be so dumb.
@DoubleD i mean like the problem is that Marco Arment goes around OPENLY ADMITTING to having been the CTO of Tumblr, and yet he is not yet in a re-education camp (at best).
@DoubleD i mean like the problem is that Marco Arment goes around OPENLY ADMITTING to having been the CTO of Tumblr, and yet he is not yet in a re-education camp (at best).
To be fair, he didn't know how what he was building would be used. I don't think he was the CTO in any real sense; he just was a developer hired by the "idea guy" who started the company (who IIRC was a minor when Arment first started working for him).
Personally, I used to listen to a podcast by Arment - I don't think it was Accidental Tech but whatever one he did before that that wasn't the one sperging about overpriced German cars - and I lost pretty much all respect for him when he stated that he built Tumblr without using any joins in his database queries because he didn't like them. If you're not familiar with databases, this is kind of like a chef saying he'll learn how to bake, but he won't bother learning how to cook on the stovetop - maybe he can get his job done eventually but by not learning a rather fundamental aspect of his job because of feelings he's inevitably going to spend more time making a shittier product. I seriously think Arment is an Alex Mahan-tier developer who just got really lucky, and I bet whoever got hired on as devs when Arment quit were dumbfounded at the mess that they had to inherit.
and I lost pretty much all respect for him when he stated that he built Tumblr without using any joins in his database queries because he didn't like them
As in just not using the JOIN keywords in his SQL and letting the chips fall where they may in the query optimizer? Or as in never querying from more than one table in a single statement?
Neither would surprise me, really.
As in just not using the JOIN keywords in his SQL and letting the chips fall where they may in the query optimizer? Or as in never querying from more than one table in a single statement?
Neither would surprise me, really.
Aren't they the same thing? He only queried a single table at a time and therefore never used the JOIN keyword. That's the impression I got, anyway, though it has been several years since I heard him say this. It was definitely something along those lines though.
Maybe we can give him the benefit of the doubt that he did some sort of denormalization where giant data blobs were dumped in cache tables (or a separate KV store) so he didn't literally have to query one table at a time all the time, but that's its own can of worms.
Aren't they the same thing? He only queried a single table at a time and therefore never used the JOIN keyword. That's the impression I got, anyway, though it has been several years since I heard him say this. It was definitely something along those lines though.
Maybe we can give him the benefit of the doubt that he did some sort of denormalization where giant data blobs were dumped in cache tables (or a separate KV store) so he didn't literally have to query one table at a time all the time, but that's its own can of worms.
I'm guessing @Kosher Dill is referring to that syntax that indians using pirated copies of Oracle love to use where the joins are implicit and only included in the WHERE clause. It breaks my brain.
I guess the idea is, he didn't see a good way to scale the Tumblr database, so he sharded individual tables to separate servers? It's an interesting approach, I guess. Fucking Armenians.
Personally, I used to listen to a podcast by Arment - I don't think it was Accidental Tech but whatever one he did before that that wasn't the one sperging about overpriced German cars
Used to listen to Build & Analyze with Dan Benjamin back when I was learning iOS dev. Don't remember much about it except it seemed pretty solid. Benjamin also did Hypercritical with Sircusa and Talk Show with John Gruber. Once Gruber threw Benjamin under the bus and went solo the whole Apple crowd followed.
