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What killed Steve Jobs?

  • Pancreatic Cancer

    Votes: 65 12.2%

  • AIDS from having gay sex with Tim Cook

    Votes: 468 87.8%
  • Total voters
    533

Only words needed. (NSFW)

And heh, the Zune... I never even heard of its existence until 2015 and that was because I started looking up things related to the various XP editions, including the media centre edition. It seemed decent-ish though, from what I've seen of it, but it clearly was a flop if barely anyone remembers its existence (it released around the time of the MP3 player craze so)...

... as for the iPod being killed off, I don't really care. Modern ones are just stripped down iPhones anyway. Meanwhile for about sixty quid you can get an old Walkman NWZ-E454, hack the volume limit using the Destination Tool if you live in Europe, and well, you have a pretty fucking good player that y'know, doesn't need proprietary software to literally do the simple thing of transferring music to it.

Also, Apple really really love fucking everything up for everything else and ignoring standards yet unlike Microsoft they don't seem to constantly get sued, rather they pay their way around to get exceptions and excuses, see: charger cables, 'FireWire', HFS+ leaving stupid bullshit on FAT32 drives, the HTML5 video tag being fucked because Apple demanded W3C remove Ogg Theora as a part of the spec in 2007, OGG/FLAC/WEBM in general (despite the fact libflac is under a BSD licence), the smart quotes anti-feature on iOS/MacOS, proprietary screws, planned obsolescence, Sierra and onwards macOS being rendered far more shit used buys compared to older MacBooks (dad's 2009 one which maxes out at El Capitan works fine, but he's thinking of getting a 2015 iMac, I told him not to as it will just be killed off by 3rd party devs around the same time but he's not fucking listening to me), oh and not even bothering to follow the keyboard standards for each English region correctly.

I'm no Linux/FOSS fag (using Win8.1 on a C2D E8400 with 4GB RAM, which boots really quick on a 14 year old HDD, heh) but Apple just blatantly ignore extremely basic things that are unified everywhere else and expect everyone to just deal with it and build around them because they're so big, and they often do. If I were building an app I'd rather lose potential users and just tell them they shouldn't have bought a device made by a company that treats standards similarly to how Foxconn heads treat the sweatshop slaves making their very devices.
 
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Who the fuck even used an iPod? Never seemed that popular, at least in Europe.
Most kids here used those generic pen drive mp3 players. Small, cheap, no iTunes crap, and replaceable AAA batteries.
 
byuu said:
Who the fuck even used an iPod? Never seemed that popular, at least in Europe.
Most kids here used those generic pen drive mp3 players. Small, cheap, no iTunes crap, and replaceable AAA batteries.
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Americans. Most of which are now Twitter degenerates jerking off to retro tech and girldicks, probably.
I agree though, even as a kid I don't really remember seeing iPods, only MP3 players. UK here, dunno about you...

... back then I always thought the Classic had nice storage and aesthetics but was expensive, and the other options were just... pointless. Funny really though, Europeans just 2 decades ago seemingly strongly preferred cheaper, but more open/convenient stuff, and now they've gone full-on consoomercow outside some parts of Eastern Europe and Scandinavia because of American trends virtually 'colonising' us. Even the UK, which was staunchly against overspending for no reason, has become like this...

Wonder if the US are just trying to take revenge for being colonised by fucking everyone's cultures up.
 
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Petit Charat said:
Also, Apple really really love fucking everything up for everything else and ignoring standards... charger cables, 'FireWire'
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(Real) Magsafe cables were the best charging cable ever invented. IEEE 1394 was an open standard developed far before USB that only went away because PC manufacturers refused to spend more than 50 cents to implement anything and so Apple had to bribe Intel to implement Thunderbolt and bake it into their chipsets.
 
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(Real) Magsafe cables were the best charging cable ever invented. IEEE 1394 was an open standard developed far before USB that only went away because PC manufacturers refused to spend more than 50 cents to implement anything and so Apple had to bribe Intel to implement Thunderbolt and bake it into their chipsets.
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I still have a bunch of USB-C to Magsafe adapters.
 
"VHS? Who the fuck used VHS i've never seen anyone who owned a vhs"

I'm gonna bet that most of you are under the age of 25.

iPods were fucking MASSIVE. In 2001 alone, there were 38 millions sold, which was three times more than all other mp3 players combined.

It was a fucking revolution, you millenial/zoomer cunts.
 
The iPod is gone because now it's a function of the iPhone. There's almost 120 million Americans who own an iPhone. Remove anyone under like, 12 years old or over 70.

The iPod was the number one mp3 player on the market and dwarfed absolutely everyone else in terms of numbers as well.

Yeah, you can definitely compare the two of them.
 
Zunes were pretty cool, but the mandatory syncing software was I think like a fork of Windows Media Player, which itself was already bad. They also did dumb shit like making one that literally had a fecal color scheme:
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The green glow around it was present in other ones. The grey one has sort of a seafoam blue color. It's some kind of trick with the front bezel and how it reflects light or something. It's pretty cool, but then they went and used it to make something that resembles poop. Like why didn't they just make a red or blue Zune? Why brown? It was ridiculous.

And speaking of which, the syncing software thing was always a thing with iPods too, and iTunes only got worse over time. I know the argument's like "it's for the tech unsavvy that struggle with filesystems", but like, if you can figure out iTunes, you can figure out how to drag MP3s into an external drive. That would have been really great, but it just wasn't a thing with these big hard drive players of their time.

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Orange Rhymer said:
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The worst hardware acquiring the worst software company.
Makes perfect sense.
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Apple actually makes pretty good hardware tbh. It's the walled garden and not letting you repair shit that's the issue. I'm still using a unibody Macbook Pro upgraded with an SSD and 16 gigs of ram with Linix Mint as my daily driver. That's a decade old piece of hardware still chugging along easily handling whatever general computing tasks I throw at it.

Now, that being said, the newest thing I've used made by Apple was a 2016 iPhone SE, so it's entirely possible their hardware has gone to shit since then.
 
Never Scored said:
Apple actually makes pretty good hardware tbh. It's the walled garden and not letting you repair shit that's the issue. I'm still using a unibody Macbook Pro upgraded with an SSD and 16 gigs of ram with Linix Mint as my daily driver. That's a decade old piece of hardware still chugging along easily handling whatever general computing tasks I throw at it.

Now, that being said, the newest thing I've used made by Apple was a 2016 iPhone SE, so it's entirely possible their hardware has gone to shit since then.
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Their hardware was shit pretty much from the first Retina MBP-The first ARM Mac due to Jony Ives wanting to keep making their computers thinner at the expense of the thermals while Intel chips just kept getting hotter. Since he left though the first major redesign of the MacBook Pro actually resulted in it getting thicker, not that it needed to thermally speaking
 
Never Scored said:
I'm still using a unibody Macbook Pro upgraded with an SSD and 16 gigs of ram with Linix Mint as my daily driver. That's a decade old piece of hardware still chugging along easily handling whatever general computing tasks I throw at it.
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I've wanted to upgrade one of those MacBooks just like you did like a reble except I already have a desktop and a laptop so I wouldn't quite know what to do with it.
 
Internet War Criminal said:
"VHS? Who the fuck used VHS i've never seen anyone who owned a vhs"

I'm gonna bet that most of you are under the age of 25.

iPods were fucking MASSIVE. In 2001 alone, there were 38 millions sold, which was three times more than all other mp3 players combined.

It was a fucking revolution, you millenial/zoomer cunts.
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iPods were expensive and iTunes was MacOs only for a couple of years, further adding to the cost. Pen-style players were cheaper, smaller, some looked really cool and they acted like an USB drive making them easy to use on any computer. Even Apple got in on that trend with the iPod Shuffle in... 2004? I think it was roughly a year after iTunes was released for Windows.
 
I'm waiting for the WWDC when Apple drops the mask and introduces a PRC-style social credit system so that they can make owning an iPhone a legal requirement to get a job or go to college because only Apple devices will be compatible with it. What we'll probably get instead is another fucking season of The Morning Show, which is fine, I guess. But it's on no one's wishlists.

Oh, and this might also be the year that iOS iPadOS introduces a brand new multitasking system and reinvents some basic feature PCs have had for the last 30 years, which finally makes iPad a true replacement for a laptop. Y'know, just like it promises to do every other year.
 
DoubleD said:
I'm waiting for the WWDC when Apple finally introduces a PRC-style social credit system so that they can make owning an iPhone a legal requirement to get a job or go to college because only Apple devices will be compatible with it. What we'll probably get instead is another fucking season of The Morning Show.

Oh, and this might also be the year that iOS iPadOS has a brand new multitasking system that makes iPad a true replacement for a laptop. Y'know, just like it promises every other year.
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They really missed the boat on this while Microsoft has since done just that.
 
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