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What killed Steve Jobs?

  • Pancreatic Cancer

    Votes: 65 12.2%
  • AIDS from having gay sex with Tim Cook

    Votes: 468 87.8%

  • Total voters
    533
NOTCH CONFIRMED

Ports and MagSafe are back too.
Actually adding useful stuff back in and removing gimmicky bullshit like the stupid fucking touchbar from their expensive “Pro” laptops? This doesn’t sound like Apple at all. I feel for anyone who bought an Apple laptop in the last 3-4 years, except not really because it’s their own fucking fault for choosing to buy an inferior product.
 
🦀🦀🦀🦀🦀NO MORE TOUCH BAR 🦀🦀🦀🦀🦀
14-inch is almost $2K including student discount and taxes
I don't know if that's worth it or not
Personally I would had enjoyed trying the Macbook touch bar. The price sounds outrages but it's an Apple product so it's to be expected. If I managed to win enough money at the casino I would purchase a Macbook. Sure I could probably find a better alternative for a better price but I would like to have a computer or laptop that's better than the prebuilt IBUYPOWER PCs I had over the years.
 
I've stuck with my 2015 Macbook Pro because of shit like the touchbar and only having USB-C. These new pros seem to be a legitimate return to form. 1,999 is a bit much though for the base 14 inch. Might pick it up when the newer model launches and places like Best Buy will be doing sales to clear out old inventory.
Actually adding useful stuff back in and removing gimmicky bullshit like the stupid fucking touchbar from their expensive “Pro” laptops? This doesn’t sound like Apple at all. I feel for anyone who bought an Apple laptop in the last 3-4 years, except not really because it’s their own fucking fault for choosing to buy an inferior product.
 
The M1 Max is a big die on a leading-edge process (57B transistors, 432 mm^2, TSMC N5). What is special about Apple that allows for such development, knowing the chip can still sell in a $3500 MacBook? AMD, Intel, NVIDIA don't do boutique SoCs like that for the PC space.
 
Last year Apple ditched the butterfly keyboard on the entire laptop line up, so this isn't entirely new for post-Steve era Apple.
So, just a thought... how fucking poorly must the last few gens of Macbook Pro's have sold for Apple to actually WALK BACK their retаrded decisions? This kinda stuff is honestly kinda unprecedented in the company's recent history.
 
New laptops look great. It’s crazy how much GPU performance they can get out of the M1 max’ onboard graphics. $1999 for the base model 14” without the 10 core/16 core processor is a travesty though.
So, just a thought... how fucking poorly must the last few gens of Macbook Pro's have sold for Apple to actually WALK BACK their retаrded decisions? This kinda stuff is honestly kinda unprecedented in the company's recent history.
Apple has had great sales numbers, but I’m glad they recognized the touch bar and USB C only was bullshit.
 
These new Macbooks are going to be the standard for years. Any gains anyone else was hoping to make in the development, or production world were erased yesterday. The new laptops are almost everything user's wanted, and on paper so much better than the competition that it's unfair.

I look forward to my workplace upgrading me to one in a year or two.
 
Personally I would had enjoyed trying the Macbook touch bar.
As someone who has a touch bar MacBook, the novelty wears off rather quickly. It's one of those things that is kind of cool, but in terms of doing simple tasks it adds an extra barrier. I don't know how much you know about it so I shall explain as if you do not.

The touch bar isn't a static set of keys and changes dependent on the program you are using. So, for example, Safari, Chrome, Brave, Firefuck, Edge, etc will all have different touch bars depend on what their programers feel. This is key because it relies on third parties to help support a hardware feature. You can of course edit the touch bar, but again this is all depends on what the programmers decide and ultimately, it's probably not a good use of time working on an edge case hardware on an edge case platform.

Comparing two browsers, Safari is nice for video because you'll get scrobber. But want to change the audio levels? Well, now you need to hit another button on the touch bar to bring up the function keys to up or lower audio levels. Brave's touch bar is literal garbage since most of it is forward, back, tap here to search, which would be beneficial on something that doesn't have a trackpad a couple of millimeters below the keyboard or if you don't know keyboard shortcuts.

tl:dr The touch bar is a mess that is semi-cool but makes things we've been trained to do since elementary school different for maybe no real benefit.
 
I’m surprised no one has mentioned that they still didn’t bring back a USB-A port, MagSafe has a different connector so previous MagSafe chargers won’t work, and the 14”/16” MacBook Pros are fatter looking and have feet to presumably allow better air intake.

I was waiting for this release before upgrading my 2015 13” MacBook Pro but now I don’t know if I’m satisfied with what’s going to be on the market.
 
I’m surprised no one has mentioned that they still didn’t bring back a USB-A port, MagSafe has a different connector so previous MagSafe chargers won’t work, and the 14”/16” MacBook Pros are fatter looking and have feet to presumably allow better air intake.

I was waiting for this release before upgrading my 2015 13” MacBook Pro but now I don’t know if I’m satisfied with what’s going to be on the market.
Of those I really only care about no USB-A - I'll gladly accept that an MBP which is a few millimeters thicker to get all the other ports back. And at any rate you're risking having perfect be the enemy of good - not just good, but much better. But suit yourself.
 
Of those I really only care about no USB-A - I'll gladly accept that an MBP which is a few millimeters thicker to get all the other ports back. And at any rate you're risking having perfect be the enemy of good - not just good, but much better. But suit yourself.
They look fat enough to accept a USB-A, so I don't get why the 14" and 16" MacBooks don't have it. I really need to go to the store and take look at it myself.
 
Something that seems to have gone under the radar - when they first announced their ARM transition, Apple also said that they'd still sell Intel-based products for the next two years, presumably just to hedge their bets in case things didn't work out on the ARM front, and/or Intel somehow pulled a rabbit out of the hat with Alder Lake. Apparently, Apple are now confident enough in the M1 line-up that they've EOL'd all of their Intel-based products except for the 27" iMac and the Mac Pro (which don't yet have M1 replacements) and for some reason the Mac Mini (guess they've got a surplus of them) and pulled them from their website.
 
they've EOL'd all of their Intel-based products except for the 27" iMac and the Mac Pro (which don't yet have M1 replacements)
It's hard to imagine they're selling any of them at this point as well. Who on earth is going to pay full price for machines on the brink of being not only completely outdated, but basically incompatible with the Apple ecosystem going forward?

I guess maybe businesses, but I can't imagine they're moving many at this point.
 
Surprised how heavy the 16" is compared to the 2015 model that I'm used to. The outer dimensions are pretty much the same while lacking a GPU in the 2022 model so I wonder where all the extra weight is.

2015: 4.46 pounds (2.02 kg)
2022 (new): 4.8 pounds (2.2 kg)
 
It's hard to imagine they're selling any of them at this point as well. Who on earth is going to pay full price for machines on the brink of being not only completely outdated, but basically incompatible with the Apple ecosystem going forward?

I guess maybe businesses, but I can't imagine they're moving many at this point.
To be fair, I can imagine them sticking with Intel for the Mac Pro for a little bit longer, as it's going to be hard for them to create anything remotely similar with the current M1-type designs.

A bit more surprising that they haven't yet announced M1 Pro/Max versions of the 27" iMac, but I imagine that's because they'll want to outfit them with XDR displays, and it's probably not yet cost-effective for them to do so.
 
Something that seems to have gone under the radar - when they first announced their ARM transition, Apple also said that they'd still sell Intel-based products for the next two years, presumably just to hedge their bets in case things didn't work out on the ARM front, and/or Intel somehow pulled a rabbit out of the hat with Alder Lake.
Jobs said the same thing when Apple was switching to Intel, and it was almost certainly to make it so Intel Mac users didn't get buyers remorse and to make sure sales didn't fall off a cliff before they actually had a ARM machine
To be fair, I can imagine them sticking with Intel for the Mac Pro for a little bit longer, as it's going to be hard for them to create anything remotely similar with the current M1-type designs.
Not really, they pretty much have the CPU design down, it's just making the graphics good enough will trade blows with the most powerful stand alone gpus, which we've been hearing rumours that apple's been putting effort into doing for a few years. Plus all you have to do is modify the chip to have support for expansions cards and have people write drivers for said cards and you have a Pro Machine
 
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A bit more surprising that they haven't yet announced M1 Pro/Max versions of the 27" iMac, but I imagine that's because they'll want to outfit them with XDR displays, and it's probably not yet cost-effective for them to do so.
Software might be one additional reason. The software Mac Pro users use might not be available on a potential M1 Pro, so why would they buy a new one?
 
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