US AP: Shoppers, workers clash over post-pandemic expectations

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Shoppers, workers clash over post-pandemic expectations
Associated Press (archive.ph)
By Anne D'innocenzio
2022-12-11 14:00:07GMT

NEW YORK (AP) — Before the pandemic, Cheryl Woodard used to take her daughter and her friends to eat at a local IHOP in Laurel, Maryland after their dance practice. But now they hardly go there anymore because it closes too early.

“It is a little frustrating because it’s not as convenient as it used to be,” said Woodard, 54, who also does most of her shopping online these days instead of in person because of stores limiting their hours.

Before the pandemic, consumers had gotten accustomed to instant gratification: packages and groceries delivered to their doorstep in less than an hour, stores that stayed open around the clock to serve their every need.

But more than two and a half years later in a world yearning for normalcy, many workers are fed up and don’t want to go back to the way things were. They are demanding better schedules, and sometimes even quitting their jobs altogether.

As a consequence, many businesses still haven’t been able to resume the same hours of operations or services as they continue to grapple with labor shortages. Others have made changes in the name of efficiency. For instance, Walmart, the nation’s largest retailer and private employer, announced this past summer it doesn’t have any plans for its supercenters to return to its pre-pandemic 24-hour daily operations.

IHOP says a vast majority of its locations have returned to their pre-pandemic hours and some have even expanded them. But others, like the Laurel location that Woodward used to frequent, have indeed cut back.

The changes are creating a disconnect between customers who want to shop and dine like they used to during pre-pandemic times and exhausted employees who no longer want to work those long hours — a push-pull that is only being heightened during the busy holiday shopping season.

“Nobody is winning,” said Sadie Cherney, a franchise owner with three resale Clothes Mentor boutiques in South Carolina. “It is so demoralizing to see that you are falling short on both ends.”

Across all industries, the average number of hours worked per week per worker totaled 34.4 hours in November, unchanged from February 2020, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. But for the retail industry, it slipped 1.6% to 30.2 hours per week during the same period. Hours worked at restaurants were down by similar amount in October, according to the most recent data.

Meanwhile, the National Restaurant Association’s most recent monthly survey of 4,200 restaurant operators conducted in early August found that 60% of restaurants reduced hours of operation on the days they were open, while 38% closed on the days they would normally be open compared to right before the pandemic. And a report published by food and beverage research firm Dataessential showed the average U.S. restaurant as of October was open around six fewer hours per week than in 2019 — a 7.5% decline.

Cherney noted her stores returned to pre-pandemic hours last year but with the worsening labor shortages and higher labor costs, she has struggled to keep those same hours this year.

Her store in Columbia is open one hour later, but she had to offer wage increases to her workers. For her two other locations in Greenville and Spartanburg, hours have been reduced for personal shopping appointments throughout the week, and no longer accept second-hand clothing from shoppers on Sundays.

Cherney noted customers often complain about long waits to process their second-hand offerings, while her staff is overextended because they’re working 20% more than what they would like. The end result: Cash flow and profitability have both taken a hit.

Mani Bhushan, owner of Taco Ocho, a taco restaurant with four locations in the Dallas area, still struggles to hire cooks at his McKinney location, which opened in July 2021. He said many workers can’t afford to live in this upscale suburb and have to travel from elsewhere. Several times a week he’s had to close the location early — something he has never had to do in the 40 years he has worked in the business.

Even when Bhushan is able to keep his normal hours of operation, he still has to cut off online orders earlier in the day and the service is not up to par with his other locations.

“I am a perfectionist,” he said. ”I am not happy. But I can’t fix it right now.”

The worker shortages should remain acute into next year even as several big tech companies have reduced staff or have frozen corporate hiring. The economy added 263,000 jobs while the unemployment rate remained at 3.7% in November, still near a 53-year low, according to the Labor Department. And while U.S. job openings dropped in October from September, the number ticked up 3% in retail.

For mall operator Taubman Centers, which manages or leases 24 premier centers in the U.S. and Asia, many stores are opening later than its centers to save on employee costs, according to Bill Taubman, president and chief operating officer. However, he said that causes frustration among customers who go to the mall thinking the store where they want to shop will be open.

Vicky Thai, a 27-year-old studying to be a physician’s assistant in West Hartford, Connecticut, said she’s often frustrated over the waits to get served at restaurants and stores. She recalled a recent restaurant experience where it took a long time just to get some water; at a local clothing store, she spent 30 minutes in line to buy an item because of staffing shortages.

But for every frustrated customer, there is a frustrated worker. Artavia Milliam, 39, of Brooklyn, New York, is a visual merchandiser at H&M in Times Square. She said she spends more of her time helping out on the sales floor than updating the mannequins because of the shortage of staff.

“It can get overwhelming,” she said. “Everyday, I encounter someone who is rude.”
 
"We don't want to hire more people or pay them more, why can't we find people to slave for us?"
"Why won't these plebes get back in their cages and serve my every whim?"
>Man, fuck you two, I'd rather be poor.
 
The plandemic helped people find their Pareto balance—the 20% that they have to do to get the 80% of things they need. And then they discovered that they don’t really need that extra 20% of “needs.”

I got driven off for being old and refusing the death shot. I took my early retirement and now spend my days reading, drinking when inclined to do so, and indulging in various backburnered interests. The old employer is still too prideful to admit they were wrong, but they aren’t getting a lot done with all their remaining wokies screaming about how “unsafe” they feel when asked to do anything but work from home. Sow, reap.
 
The changes are creating a disconnect between customers who want to shop and dine like they used to during pre-pandemic times and exhausted employees who no longer want to work those long hours

Across all industries, the average number of hours worked per week per worker totaled 34.4 hours in November, unchanged from February 2020, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. But for the retail industry, it slipped 1.6% to 30.2 hours per week during the same period. Hours worked at restaurants were down by similar amount in October, according to the most recent data.

A 40 hour week is too much? I assume, as when I worked shitty jobs growing up its paid by the hour, more hours more pay and sometimes at an overtime rate. And if it really is over 40 hours can't these companies keep a schedule so late shift workers come in a couple of hours later? Instead of making people work open/close shifts?
 
It was a wake up call to the working class. That simple.

Office culture especially is finally getting the kick in the dick it deserves.
 
A 40 hour week is too much? I assume, as when I worked shitty jobs growing up its paid by the hour, more hours more pay and sometimes at an overtime rate. And if it really is over 40 hours can't these companies keep a schedule so late shift workers come in a couple of hours later? Instead of making people work open/close shifts?
The corporations don’t want to pay overtime so they cut off hours at a certain fairly arbitrary point so they don’t have to pay overtime and/or benefits since you are technically working part time. Even if you are willing to work more hours, the management isn’t allowed to give you more hours.
 
It's almost like American society is on the verge of completely collapsing. The left is thrilled at this. It's finally getting within their reach.
 
You spend more time looking busy than actually being busy, but don't you dare be five minutes late or leave ontime.
and then there's the whole "Why aren't you spending your non work hours with your fellow co workers and doing mandatory fun activities? WE"RE A FAAAAAMILY!"
 
A 40 hour week is too much? I assume, as when I worked shitty jobs growing up its paid by the hour, more hours more pay and sometimes at an overtime rate. And if it really is over 40 hours can't these companies keep a schedule so late shift workers come in a couple of hours later? Instead of making people work open/close shifts?
It should be noted, especially in restaurants and chain restaurants? There is NO fucking 40 hour week. Those fucking places will GLEEFULLY find every trick in their book to slash your hours to next to nothing and where you are lucky to fucking get 20-25 hours a week and that's if you kiss your boss's ass in a pleasing fashion.

Had a friend who lost his office job because he refused to take the jab and he had a cake job with a guaranteed 40 hour shift/80 hour paycheck with over time and medical benefits/sick days/vacation time. Now he is a dishwasher at a chain restaurant (the only gig he could find as everyone else basically isn't hiring as they learned to overwork their staffs and pull the "be thankful you even HAVE a job" card whenever someone gets uppity) and barely gets 20 hours a week/40 hours a biweekly paycheck if he's lucky and ZERO holiday pay or any sort of medical benefits like sick days and vacation time.

He eventually got the jab purely to try and get another office job but he's utterly miserable as far as the fact that a LOT of places learned all of the worse shit from the pandemic when it came to squeezing the working class folk even HARDER, knowing damn well they would have no choice but to take it up the ass given how impossible it is to get unemployment unless you live in a commie dystopia like New York or California.
 
Wow it's like spending two years treating people like niggercattle making everything that gives their life meaning "non-essential," all on top of a society where the social contract is already largely broken by multiculturalism, damaged family units, and a lack of local community, was a bad idea. Who could've guessed?!

Nobody gives a shit anymore. There are few places around anymore with customer service worth a damn, and most of them are suffering small family businesses that won't likely survive the next few years. You've created an entire society of people who don't care for each other, in conditions where you've ratfucked the economy so hard that they can't get ahead no matter what they do, and you're shocked they won't work as hard.

Sometimes it's hard to tell if the powers that be are being evil, retarded, or both. This is the cost of creating an apathetic, cowering, complacent society. Have fun with your sheep, they don't do much but they love to eat your grass all day, you dumb silver spoon elitist faggots.
 
Vicky Thai, a 27-year-old studying to be a physician’s assistant ...at a local clothing store, she spent 30 minutes in line to buy an item because of staffing shortages.
She's never going to make it. By 27 years of living, you should be able to ascertain that your time is the second most valuable thing you have (with your health coming in first), and you shouldn't be squandering it on waiting in line at a clothing store of all places. Society is truly fucked and I know her story is a mild example of it, but damn, what the fuck is wrong with these people?
 
A 40 hour week is too much? I assume, as when I worked shitty jobs growing up its paid by the hour, more hours more pay and sometimes at an overtime rate. And if it really is over 40 hours can't these companies keep a schedule so late shift workers come in a couple of hours later? Instead of making people work open/close shifts?
I've heard McDonalds would typically only have people work 20 hours a week. These places expect you to work multiple jobs, so asking them for a "better schedule" is either wanting more hours to work or to help them work things out so they can do their other job.

I feel like it comes down to these places being run by incompetent people that can't figure out how to really schedule things for a regular smaller group of employees. I know of some restaurants that would schedule too many people to come into work then just try sending some home after they showed up. It's idiotic and has to make the employees feel disconnected from the place they're working at if they're being treated like such garbage.

Which is probably why lockdowns were the best time of many people's lives, they go to sit at home while collecting government checks rather than deal with all that bullshit.
 
I know of some restaurants that would schedule too many people to come into work then just try sending some home after they showed up. It's idiotic and has to make the employees feel disconnected from the place they're working at if they're being treated like such garbage.
They overschedule like that because they're used to so many service employees just not showing up.
 
I feel like it comes down to these places being run by incompetent people that can't figure out how to really schedule things for a regular smaller group of employees.
A lot of this comes from corporate and digital systems. They build models based off the ideal store, and build systems to use that traffic model to provide allocated hours to stores for given windows, and the store manager is expected to use that. So they'll end up overallocated during a 'rush hour' that doesn't exist in their location, terribly under allocated in their real rush because their location has different dynamics, and then the whole thing has the "keep them under full time" push to boot due to benefits as has been mentioned. If the model store is located near office buildings, its going to have a very different ebb and flow of customers than one along a highway, or one near a community college with a lot of night class attendance. The highway is gonna want even service and all day breakfast for the flow of long haul truckers, the office workers are gonna have a morning and noon spike, and the college needs a more robust 6-11 shift. But the people interpreting this data tend to be the most ignorant folks I have ever seen, and never think about this.

And you might wonder "Why wouldn't they stop when it fails?" And the answer is "They do, they fire the manager and hire a new one". The model works in the model store, and it also works in X locations that coincidentally have similar patterns, so the model must be fine, its the management that's the problem. Which is how corporate stores can fuck up being a fast food joint by a highway, or a high school, or any other place drowning in their desired broke and convenience oriented customers.
 
They overschedule like that because they're used to so many service employees just not showing up.
Which is a consequence of on demand scheduling in the first place. I worked for a major franchise restaurant business developing algorithms for in store management. Weather forecast being wrong was the biggest cause of overscheduling. You can pretty reliably predict no-call no shows based on avg age of employee, whether school is in session, etc.
 
Restaurants are hemorrhaging workers right now because they aren't worth it. There's a slow death spiral going where operating hours and volume are reduced due to labor shortages, but when volume starts peaking they refuse to keep on an appropriate number of workers to maintain decent service, so workers quit. The companies are shaving the labor margins lower annually, trying to keep a profit, but what you have to do is invest in your people and keep a full staff so that everything gets done, and your heavy hitters don't burn out. For most big chains right now, you've got a small handful of excellent employees who keep the lights on. These guys need a handful of schmucks on hand to take up lesser tasks and hold down positions so that the job is done right, instead these people are doing enough work for 3 or even 4 people at a time, but they're receiving only marginal raises that get eaten instantly by inflation. Eventually they quit. It's better to be a wal mart greeter and make 3 dollars an hour less, than it is to run like he'll all day doing four peoples jobs fantastically and still not be able to own property, have hobbies, or be a functional parent. The big chains are going down hard because their too rigin and bloated to pivot to the times, and small businesses are losing because quality isn't profitable and they simply can't afford to pay people what they deserve.
 
Restaurants are hemorrhaging workers right now because they aren't worth it. There's a slow death spiral going where operating hours and volume are reduced due to labor shortages
I know about how all these employment numbers the BLS spews are supposed to be made, but it's so clearly bullshit at this point I'd sooner trust the USSR's old economic data.
 
Businesses treat their employees like liabilities at best and trash at worst. There's a million things that could be said about what businesses are doing wrong to their employees but none of them want to hear it. You'll be shocked to hear that being a floor manager at a retail store gives people big egos. I know I was.
 
I know about how all these employment numbers the BLS spews are supposed to be made, but it's so clearly bullshit at this point I'd sooner trust the USSR's old economic data.
The entirety of the chain/franchise service sector depends on an unlimited number of people that are willing to be treated like quarter hour increments of labor. Whatever the overall employment numbers actually are, there aren't enough of that type of laborer to meet the demand.
 
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