Any Stargate fans?

[indomitable snowman]

 

[Miller]

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Either that or Thor knew that he would become Kratos.

 

[indomitable snowman]

Man Stargate Atlantis and SG-1 really liked that medieval set they built.

 

[Miller]

Man Stargate Atlantis and SG-1 really liked that medieval set they built.

They had to get their money back, lol.

edit: It would be funny to know if the medieval village set was used by other productions. I know the Waffle Haus set from Dead Like Me was re-used for the Daniel and Anubis scenes, parts of the Atlantis set was used in Blade 2.

 

[DavidS877]

I'm watching Universe, again, and most of the way through the first season.

I'm sort of realizing I really don't like it. Too much interpersonal crap, 1/3 of some episodes are just flashbacks to a characters previous trauma.

I don't remember if I liked it the first time.

 

[indomitable snowman]

I'm watching Universe, again, and most of the way through the first season.

I'm sort of realizing I really don't like it. Too much interpersonal crap, 1/3 of some episodes are just flashbacks to a characters previous trauma.

I don't remember if I liked it the first time.

It picks up in the latter quarter of season 1 and Season 2 is better.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

I'm watching Universe, again, and most of the way through the first season.

I'm sort of realizing I really don't like it. Too much interpersonal crap, 1/3 of some episodes are just flashbacks to a characters previous trauma.

I don't remember if I liked it the first time.

Well, when everyone is busy saying Battlestar Galatica Remake is the greatest show the Sci-Fi network ever made (TBF, it is and it was not known as SyFy yet), network executives are going to order another show just like it, hence SG-U and how they handled characters. And to be clear, I actually don't like the Remake all that much. I find it a depressing slog and everyone on that show is a jerk in their own way. I simply recognize that it's critically acclaimed and earned that praise.

That era of the early 2000s was when Sci-fi shifted tone pretty hard. 90s Sci-Fi was some kind of Berman Trek or Berman Trek derivative, as SG-1 and Atlantis show; plot driven shows about going to some location in the Canadian woods. They were populated by calm professionals attempting to solve problems to the best of their ability. Then BSG shows up and now characters have pretty bad interpersonal problems and it's a wonder that they survived the story when they're constantly feuding with each other. That's been the state of mainstream Sci-fi ever since.

 

[DavidS877]

That era of the early 2000s was when Sci-fi shifted tone pretty hard. 90s Sci-Fi was some kind of Berman Trek or Berman Trek derivative, as SG-1 and Atlantis show; plot driven shows about going to some location in the Canadian woods. They were populated by calm professionals attempting to solve problems to the best of their ability. Then BSG shows up and now characters have pretty bad interpersonal problems and it's a wonder that they survived the story when they're constantly feuding with each other. That's been the state of mainstream Sci-fi ever since.

Although BSG popularized it, I think Babylon 5 did it first. Obviously B5 straddled the line between the old way and the new way for Sci-fi and moving Sci-fi TV to a more serialized medium. Of course B5's problem was it was a bit too early, low budget and too niche at the time. Also, what the heck is a "PTEN" anyway?

Maybe I'll put a re-watch of B5 next in the queue.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

Although BSG popularized it, I think Babylon 5 did it first. Obviously B5 straddled the line between the old way and the new way for Sci-fi and moving Sci-fi TV to a more serialized medium. Of course B5's problem was it was a bit too early, low budget and too niche at the time. Also, what the heck is a "PTEN" anyway?

Maybe I'll put a re-watch of B5 next in the queue.

Bablyon 5's reason for why characters hate each other is because they were ambassadors of different nations and therefore, had vastly different goals. Sheridan and Garibaldi were themselves professionals trying to tard-wrangle them to keep the peace. BSG remake has characters on the same organizations mad at each other and then engage in villainous behavior because they couldn't trust each other, like that time Adama broke up a workers' strike by threatening to space Tyrol's wife or Roslyn constantly subverting the Council by declaring states of emergencies. The Sci-Fi genre went with making characters assholes over characters having different goals because writing characters is easier than writing setting.

 

[Ultraman Orb Dark]

BSG remake has characters on the same organizations mad at each other and then engage in villainous behavior because they couldn't trust each other, like that time Adama broke up a workers' strike by threatening to space Tyrol's wife or Roslyn constantly subverting the Council by declaring states of emergencies.

They could have at least justified it through paranoia over some of the crew being Cylons, but more often than not, it came off as unnecessary drama.

 

[Screamer_2]

They had to get their money back, lol.

edit: It would be funny to know if the medieval village set was used by other productions. I know the Waffle Haus set from Dead Like Me was re-used for the Daniel and Anubis scenes, parts of the Atlantis set was used in Blade 2.

It is funny when you start to notice these things.

I don't know about Blade 2, but Blade Trinity was filmed at the same studios as Atlantis and they donated one of the sets to Atlantis to avoid the costs of dismantling it. I don't really know what appear in Atlantis or what may have been modified but catwalk set is the main on I can think of.

 

[Ultraman Orb Dark]

Blade Trinity was filmed at the same studios as Atlantis and they donated one of the sets to Atlantis to avoid the costs of dismantling it. I don't really know what appear in Atlantis or what may have been modified but catwalk set is the main on I can think of.

You're telling me we could have had Blade fighting the Wraith with Ronon Dex?

 

[sodaboard]

Bablyon 5's reason for why characters hate each other is because they were ambassadors of different nations and therefore, had vastly different goals. Sheridan and Garibaldi were themselves professionals trying to tard-wrangle them to keep the peace. BSG remake has characters on the same organizations mad at each other and then engage in villainous behavior because they couldn't trust each other, like that time Adama broke up a workers' strike by threatening to space Tyrol's wife or Roslyn constantly subverting the Council by declaring states of emergencies. The Sci-Fi genre went with making characters assholes over characters having different goals because writing characters is easier than writing setting.

you also have to remember the bsg reboot came during the iraq war and it takes a lot of influence from what was going on then regarding balance of power. yet almost every problem that came up in the show was created as a result of the failings of their democratic process and was usually solved by military brute force.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

you also have to remember the bsg reboot came during the iraq war and it takes a lot of influence from what was going on then regarding balance of power. yet almost every problem that came up in the show was created as a result of the failings of their democratic process and was usually solved by military brute force.

At the end of the show, I'm rooting for Zarek and Gaeta because Adama and Roslyn ran a military junta. The reason why she appointed Zarek as vice president was because she got sick of dealing with the Council and their complaints and Adama was the one that approved the Demetrius mission on incredibly flimsy pretext that is only justified by the plot. As annoying as the Quorum was, they were rendered impotent because of these two figures controlling all the hard power.

The closest we see of that kind of corruption in SG-1 is Kinsey selling out to the Aschen, but the US still bothers to inform the other nations with clip shows instead of browbeating the other nations with Stargate access and eventually the Prometheus.

 

[sodaboard]

At the end of the show, I'm rooting for Zarek and Gaeta because Adama and Roslyn ran a military junta. The reason why she appointed Zarek as vice president was because she got sick of dealing with the Council and their complaints and Adama was the one that approved the Demetrius mission on incredibly flimsy pretext that is only justified by the plot. As annoying as the Quorum was, they were rendered impotent because of these two figures controlling all the hard power.

The closest we see of that kind of corruption in SG-1 is Kinsey selling out to the Aschen, but the US still bothers to inform the other nations with clip shows instead of browbeating the other nations with Stargate access and eventually the Prometheus.

wielding the big stick was the only way they could even start tardwrangling the rest of the fleet, trying to uphold democratic principles while being chased across the universe by genocidal robots is a lost cause and everyone trying to maintain it was retarded.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

wielding the big stick was the only way they could even start tardwrangling the rest of the fleet, trying to uphold democratic principles while being chased across the universe by genocidal robots is a lost cause and everyone trying to maintain it was retarded.

That's why it's a show about villains, not heroes.

 

[Miller]

It is funny when you start to notice these things.

I don't know about Blade 2, but Blade Trinity was filmed at the same studios as Atlantis and they donated one of the sets to Atlantis to avoid the costs of dismantling it. I don't really know what appear in Atlantis or what may have been modified but catwalk set is the main on I can think of.

It might have been Blade Trinity, my bad. That was indeed the catwalk set.
The set that they used for the Battlestar Pegasus in BSG was originally built for a Lost in Space tv show directed by John Wu. They only shot the pilot, the network never picked up the show. I believe you can find the pilot in very low quality on Youtube with temp tracks.

 

[Captain Syrup]

you also have to remember the bsg reboot came during the iraq war and it takes a lot of influence from what was going on then regarding balance of power. yet almost every problem that came up in the show was created as a result of the failings of their democratic process and was usually solved by military brute force.

Bush was pretty much my blackpill because this was a guy who had no business running anything more complicated than a Bass Pro and yet everyone kept fluffing him like he was some Gary Cooper frontier dad.

BSG tried to do “Iraq War, but make it robots." In spite of my growing political radicalization I do not think the premise stood on its own two feet. They spend almost half a season on New Caprica where the Cylons, robots with unlimited energy who do not need human labor, occupy a worthless planet and turn it into Gitmo-on-Ice. To make that work narratively, you need a motive. Five words or less. “Robots crave human suffering.” “God told us to LOL.” Something.



It doesn’t help that right before this, the Cylons were coded as the jihadists putting the West on trial for colonial sins. So it’s both the Taliban and Don Rumsfeld.

To be blunt, all of BSG’s problems come from R&D trying to be extremely Relevant To The Headlines. Now imagine YOU’RE the Iraqis! But instead of feeling cathartic, it’s just incredibly frustrating and kneecaps the villains at every turn. (Although New Caprica was kind of a boon for the humans as characters, because these random alliances started popping up once nobody had anything left to lose.)

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

Bush was pretty much my blackpill because this was a guy who had no business running anything more complicated than a Bass Pro and yet everyone kept fluffing him like he was some Gary Cooper frontier dad.

BSG tried to do “Iraq War, but make it robots." In spite of my growing political radicalization I do not think the premise stood on its own two feet. They spend almost half a season on New Caprica where the Cylons, robots with unlimited energy who do not need human labor, occupy a worthless planet and turn it into Gitmo-on-Ice. To make that work narratively, you need a motive. Five words or less. “Robots crave human suffering.” “God told us to LOL.” Something.

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It doesn’t help that right before this, the Cylons were coded as the jihadists putting the West on trial for colonial sins. So it’s both the Taliban and Don Rumsfeld.

To be blunt, all of BSG’s problems come from R&D trying to be extremely Relevant To The Headlines. Now imagine YOU’RE the Iraqis! But instead of feeling cathartic, it’s just incredibly frustrating and kneecaps the villains at every turn. (Although New Caprica was kind of a boon for the humans as characters, because these random alliances started popping up once nobody had anything left to lose.)

And tried to breed human-cylon hybrids after nuking the 12 colonies, not before. Cylon motivations never made any sense in that show and I've never hear of anyone calling the show out on it.

 

[Captain Syrup]

And tried to breed human-cylon hybrids after nuking the 12 colonies, not before. Cylon motivations never made any sense in that show and I've never hear of anyone calling the show out on it.

The humans have these deep arcs and then the Cylons are just switching motivations like they’re changing outfits. They were definitely trying to do the Lost thing. But instead of Ben Linus who was scary the Cylons are just… annoying.

The Cavil reveal is the funniest part. His evil plan is just emotionally abusing the Final Five until they admit machines are cooler than people. That’s it. His Joker moment is, “Admit it! Metal kicks ass!”

Meanwhile he’s assuming they survived nuclear hellfire on Caprica. How did he know that? And then he just leaves them alive and depressed in tents on New Caprica like, “Any minute now they’re gonna come crawling back to apologize.” Bro, they don’t even know who they ARE. And even when they hear the little Cylon Fitbit alert pop up, they still don’t remember anything. They have to go on this whole mystical field trip to Kobol just to get the Wikipedia page for their own lives back.



(Plinkett voice) Nothing makes sense.