Opinion Annexing Canada Would Be Like Adding a Second California - If Trump's goal is to move the USA further to the left ideologically and to make it more like California, then annexing Canada would be a good thing - adding tens of millions of left-wing voters

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Annexing Canada Would Be Like Adding a Second California​


01/07/2025 • Mises WireRyan McMaken


Donald Trump wants an open border with Canada. At least, that’s what would happen if Trump were to execute his stated preference for annexing Canada as the fifty-first state.
In recent days, president-elect Donald Trump has made a number of comments suggesting that Canada should be annexed by the United States as a new state. For example, on Tuesday, Donald Trump told reporters at a press conference that the U.S. and Canada combined into a single country “would really be something.” This followed an earlier X/Twitter post in which Trump listed a number of benefits to Canada and concluded that “if Canada merged with the US” the resulting union would be “a great nation”
This depends on what one means by “great nation.” If the goal is to move the United States further to the left ideologically, and to make the US more like California, then yes, adding Canada as a new state would certainly be a good thing. For people who like freedom, on the other hand, it’s not a great idea.
The sort of MAGA voter who thinks this is a good idea is not exactly strong on critical thinking. Those who are capable of thinking things through, on the other hand, might notice that adding Canada as a new state would create an open border with a country of 40 million Canadians, most of whom hold political views well to the left of the average American. It appears that some of the same conservatives who complain about Californians moving to their states also want to open the border to a new California-sized state to the north.
How is Canada different politically from the United States? Generally speaking, it is far to the Left. For example, a recent poll of Canadians showed that 70 percent of Canadians support banning all new handgun purchases. 80 percent support bans of “assault weapons” variously defined. These numbers are typically ten to twenty percent higher than the numbers found in the United States. Similarly, 80 percent of Canadians polled typically support abortion on demand. In the United States, the number is closer to 60 percent. In the United States, 43 percent of Americans polled say the health care system should be run by the government. In Canada, 86 percent prefer government-run healthcare. In fact, as Ronald Hamowy has noted, support for government health care is near to being a religious dogma in Canada. Moreover, a voting majority of Canadians have long opposed freedom of speech, having adopted draconian “hate speech” laws since the 1970s.
This would surprise no one who is familiar with Canadian politics. As Peter St Onge has put it, Canadian “conservatives” are essentially what we would identify as centrist Democrats in America. The people we might call conservatives or libertarians in America are a tiny minority in Canada.
Apparently, The Trump plan—enthusiastically applauded by many of his loyal MAGA supporters—is to add to the United States millions of voters who want government health care, bans on all hand guns, more abortion, and hate speech laws. Moreover, Canada would enter the US as the largest or second-largest state ensuring dozens of new electoral college votes for Democrats. Put another way, with Canada as the fifty-first state, the only way the Republicans could ever win another national election would be to move even further to the left than they already have. With a “second California,” added to the mix, Congress would move significantly to the Left as Canadian voters sent dozens of new members of Congress—members with a Canadian political ideology—to Washington, DC.
Some defenders of annexation might claim that this would not be a problem if each Canadian province becomes its own new state. This wouldn’t help much, however. A majority of Canadians live in either Ontario or Quebec, and those provinces lean well to the Left, The Liberal Party routinely trounces the Conservatives in the largest provinces. The “conservative” provinces of Canada, such as Alberta and Saskatchewan would be among the smallest states if added to the United States, and we’d likely soon be reminded that Canadian conservatives are centrists by American standards.
Here, for example, here are the 2019 election results for Parliament. (In Canada, blue is the color for the Conservative party.):
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Sure, the GOP might pick up a handful of new seats in the smaller “states” of central Canada. Most new, post-annexation members of Congress, however, would be left-leaning Quebecois and Ontarians.
So, by all means, if the goal is to add a second California to the United States, or at least one or two new copies of Illinois or Washington State, then annexing Canada is a great idea.
Moreover, there is absolutely no reason to assume that Canadians would stay in Canada if Trump succeeds in creating an open border on the north. Many would elect to move south and fill up American cities with new center-left or far-left voters. The scale of California out-migration is limited by the fact that California weather and geography is very nice. Canada has all the high taxes, overregulation, and high cost of living of California, but with a terrible climate. The Canada exodus will make the California exodus look like a minor affair in comparison. If Trump gets his way, get ready to be regularly harangued by your new Canadian neighbors who just moved south and will now lecture you about the need for single-payer healthcare and gun bans.
Indeed, the prospect of annexing Canada offers some interesting new angles on the problem of open borders between US states. Conservatives usually frame the open-borders debate as a problem of letting in too many supposedly undesirable “third world” immigrants. Rather, we are told, the US should seek to import more “first world” migrants. Importing millions of white, “first world” immigrants might not go the way that many conservatives think it would.
 
Who says we would allow the cucknadians voting rights? We will subjugate them and make them live under the trump dynasty. Huzzah!
 
Canada is full of retards that voted for 9 years of Trudeau and hate us

Even a Puerto Rico situation wouldn't be worth it
 
Who says we would allow the cucknadians voting rights? We will subjugate them and make them live under the trump dynasty. Huzzah!
For real, it's not like those fags could run their own country if we just took it over so easily. They'd need to apply for citizenship, like the rest of the demo-loving illegals.
 
Who says we would allow the cucknadians voting rights? We will subjugate them and make them live under the trump dynasty. Huzzah!
US Constitution Art. I, section 2, Art. II, section 1 & 12th amendment, 15th, 19th, 24th, and 26th amendments, and Art. IV section 4
The legal foundation guaranteeing voting rights at the national level for residents of a newly annexed U.S. state lies primarily in the U.S. Constitution and its related amendments. Here’s how it works:

  1. Representation in Congress (Article I, Section 2):
    The Constitution guarantees representation in the House of Representatives to any state, based on population. Annexation as a state would entitle the new state to elect representatives to the House.
  2. Presidential Elections (Article II, Section 1 & 12th Amendment):
    Residents of any state are entitled to participate in the Electoral College process, which is used to elect the President and Vice President. Upon statehood, the annexed territory would gain electors based on its number of Senators (always 2) and Representatives (at least 1).
  3. Voting Rights (15th, 19th, 24th, and 26th Amendments):
    These amendments prohibit federal or state governments from denying voting rights on the basis of race, sex, failure to pay a poll tax, or age (for citizens 18 and older). As residents of a state, the annexees would be entitled to these protections for voting in federal elections.
  4. Guarantee of Republican Form of Government (Article IV, Section 4):
    The Constitution guarantees each state a "Republican Form of Government," which includes democratic participation in federal elections.
In practice, after annexation, Congress would pass enabling legislation admitting the new territory as a state. This legislation would establish the framework for federal representation and integration into the electoral system. Once statehood is formalized, residents automatically gain the full federal voting rights of any U.S. state.
 
The Pajeets and Chinese spies/real-estate monopolists would have to go first, as well as whoever the "AIPAC Babysitter equivalents" are in their National government.
 
This is what I've been saying. Canadians are shockingly liberal to the point that even radical anarchists like Joe Biden or Nancy Pelosi would seem like conservatives. It will be easier to assimilate a Muslim from Saudi Arabia than a liberal from Montreal.
 
I maintain:
>take the prairie provinces
>take the northern territories
>maybe take the maritime provinces
>absolutely do not, under any circumstances, take British Columbia, Ontario, or Quebec
 
How much of Canada is the way it is today because of its bad government? Trudeau and the Liberals never won anything close to an outright majority of the vote ever, yet were able to basically domineer the country for a decade. Plus, with censorship and their oppressive nature over speech, how much genuine opposition is being suppressed? And, if we break it up into states along provincial lines, I'm sure the Senate situation would be pretty tolerable at bare minimum.

Besides all this, we could also push the Canadians onto reservations and resettle the land with proper, Red, White, and Blue blooded Americans.
 
I maintain:
>take the prairie provinces
>take the northern territories
>maybe take the maritime provinces
>absolutely do not, under any circumstances, take British Columbia, Ontario, or Quebec
Yes!
You will live in America! You will eat burgers! You will say nigger and be happy!
 
How much of Canada is the way it is today because of its bad government? Trudeau and the Liberals never won anything close to an outright majority of the vote ever, yet were able to basically domineer the country for a decade. Plus, with censorship and their oppressive nature over speech, how much genuine opposition is being suppressed? And, if we break it up into states along provincial lines, I'm sure the Senate situation would be pretty tolerable at bare minimum.
Again, it's BC, Ontario and Quebec primarily made shitty by Trudeau's government
But they also overwhelmingly voted for it so they kind of deserve it
 
I fucking doubt this. There's guns everywhere in Canada and there's a lot of Canadians that support gun ownership. The majority of the country is fucking wilderness. You pretty much need a gun if you live anywhere like 100km north of the border.
The problem is that the urban masses don't live anywhere close to 100km north of the border and that's who wants all the guns banned
 
Part of annexing Canada would be of course killing everyone in it, which would be the most satisfying part. I personally call dibs on that fat fuck PPP. I'm going to cook him for Christmas dinner next year with some honey glaze.
 
. For example, a recent poll of Canadians showed that 70 percent of Canadians support banning all new handgun purchases. 80 percent support bans of “assault weapons” variously defined. These numbers are typically ten to twenty percent higher than the numbers found in the United States. Similarly, 80 percent of Canadians polled typically support abortion on demand
Well that's positively conservative compared to America, where 100 percent of poll respondents* support confiscation of all firearms and 98 percent of Americans** support open borders with Latin America
*we asked David Hogg and his family for their opinion
**poll was conducted by asking Mexicans currently in detention by ICE
 
Any annexation would of course be followed by a comprehensive deindoctrination program suspending civil rights for a good 8-10 years to get all the libthink out.
 
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