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Was watching some videos when someone mentioned Caramella. Really takes me back to the 2000s. There were a ton of parodies with other anime characters in place of these ones. Not one of the better parts of 2000s Youtube.

 
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So somehow, another season of Love Live! premiered last weekend, Love Live! Superstar!!. I have heard that LL is considered to be the normie version of Idol Anime, but given how this is the fourth (I think) iteration of the series, is it's safe to the say that the series is being milked to death, like how Western media is right now? I don't recall any of the other Idol Anime franchises reaching that point yet.
 
JoJolion is apparently ending on August 19th.
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Don't know how reliable this is though so I'd take it with a grain of salt.

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KokoroKoroki said:
JoJolion is apparently ending on August 19th.
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Don't know how reliable this is though so I'd take it with a grain of salt.

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Given how the last chapter ended and the way the volume releases would’ve lined up, people were speculating another 2-3 chapters so this is pretty believable.

All in all now that it’s all wrapped up, I have to say it’s easily my least favorite Jojo part, no competition. It had some good ideas, but the execution on those ideas was pretty awful. This was the first part where the story tries to be more than just a basic motivator for the protagonists to move the plot along (all the other Jojo plots can pretty much be summarized in a sentence) and I think that’s where it falls flat.

Because the kind of story where you have these overarching plots and mysteries kinda NEED to be at least somewhat planned out ahead of time. The other Jojo parts don’t suffer from weird side tangents because the main story goal is pretty simple (defeat the bad guy) whereas in Jojolion you just have mountains of plot threads piled on top of each other with little in the way of proper resolutions, and when stuff DOES come back it feels cheap and unearned because a character that hasn’t been seen for 60+ chapters suddenly returning to the story, doing one thing, and immediately fucking dying isn’t good writing.

I think setting it up as a mystery also fucks with the reader’s expectations, because it automatically primes readers to think of everything being presented as a possible clue that’s important. Compare it to Part 4 - I don’t think anyone reading it is thinking, “Oh, I wonder if this random Italian chef stand user is going to be plot-relevant later?”, because that’s totally just a wacky side-plot Araki would do. That actually makes it pretty cool when the Cinderella stand-user DOES become relevant later when Kira uses her ability to change his face and kills her. Meanwhile, in Jojolion, because the mystery sets you up to think “I wonder how X character plays into the story later on?”, the fact that they really have no greater significance makes them feel wasted.

I appreciate that Araki tried to do something different here by trying to do something with grander narrative themes, but ultimately I just don’t think it worked out.
 
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Last night I watched Megazone 23 and for something that was made in 1985, it really hurts how we’ll never have something that’s made for the current day like this ever again.
 
Thiletonomics said:
So somehow, another season of Love Live! premiered last weekend, Love Live! Superstar!!. I have heard that LL is considered to be the normie version of Idol Anime, but given how this is the fourth (I think) iteration of the series, is it's safe to the say that the series is being milked to death, like how Western media is right now?
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I'd disagree with it being milked to death since each new season, besides I think the second season (only one I haven't seen yet) that goes out of its way to reference the first season, is pretty separate with new casts and songs. Don't really consider it milking since it does do something new each time even if the basic plot beats might be shared, there are many popular series that are far worse when it comes to milking like Gundam.

You actually reminded me that the new series aired its first episode and it looks like it'll be fun, Kanon seems like a neat main character. The CGI is definitely not as good as Niji, still isn't bad just not as good, animation itself is pretty great though. Also, because of them still going through with the Olympics the series is going to be delayed multiple times and I'm not sure if it'll be the only anime impacted. Interesting to learn that this season is airing during prime time at like 7pm rather than late at night like most anime.

I don't recall any of the other Idol Anime franchises reaching that point yet.
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Honestly, Idolm@s probably fits more into the milked category between the two it just isn't as widely known outside of Japan.
 
Watching Josiraku. It's hysterical and I love how the jokes sometimes spiral into completely different topics and keep going. Also kudos for actually have the characters change their cloths in the once-an-episode outside segment rather than stick to a single outside cloths like every other anime does.
 
KokoroKoroki said:
JoJolion is apparently ending on August 19th.
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Don't know how reliable this is though so I'd take it with a grain of salt.

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Really disappointing if true. Jojolion was a part with high highs and low lows that was very ambitious in comparison to the other parts. While I don't think it is the worst part, I do think it dropped in quality when WoU was introduced. It was an interesting fight with a cool stand concept, but it really felt like Araki wrote himself into a corner around this fight and it lasted for too damn long. It should have ended 6 months ago. Joubin really should have been the main villain, he was much more interesting and had a lot more going on in the story than Tooru.

If Jojolion has taught anybody anything, it's that Araki really shouldn't write mysteries or anything with lingering plot threads, because they will not be solved.

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Last night I watched Megazone 23 and for something that was made in 1985, it really hurts how we’ll never have something that’s made for the current day like this ever again.
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Watched this as well as Megazone 23 Part 2 and Megazone 23 Part 3 a couple of weeks ago and you could really tell that each entry was done by a different director. Part 2 didn't even keep the same designs from Part 1 and Part 3 was just not good in my opinion. The music was always consistently good though.
 
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As far as anime series go, the im@s ones have been quite varied.
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I was talking about the series as a whole and the amount of focus that the original group still gets to this day (along with Cinderella Girls to a lesser degree) over any of the new girls created over the years. A lot of those anime adaptions are just the girls from 765 Production rather than any of the new girls they've been adding to the games, unless it's Cinderella Girls (which is still only the main girls getting focus, still don't have all the characters even voiced in the game) and the odd SideM for the fujo (which is also sparse). So while you might have different "styles" for shows, the bulk of them still focus on the 765 Production girls exclusively. As much as I like the girls from 765 Production, I'd love for some of the characters introduced in games like Theater Days to get some attention in anime adaptions rather than being continually side-lined .

It's like if Love Live kept doing spin-off anime of just the Muse girls. Niji was based on a game spin-off that had practically zero relationship with a new cast of characters and this new season is also keeping its distance from earlier groups.
 
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80s and 90s titles really hit it in the feels. Golden Boy is another good short but for the 90s. Would you say Akudama Drive or Dimension W are the closest we have for modern titles that evoke similar auras?
 
Car Won't Crank said:
80s and 90s titles really hit it in the feels. Golden Boy is another good short but for the 90s. Would you say Akudama Drive or Dimension W are the closest we have for modern titles that evoke similar auras?
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I remember Dimension W for the all the hype it got as the first anime directly funded by Funimation, as well as airing on Toonami super close to its Japanese airing.

It turned out to be nothing special in the end, and it was forgotten as quickly as it appeared. Myself, I liked the initial setup of "technophobe takes on evil technology", but the execution felt extremely "eh" to me. I still preferred it to Akame ga Kill (which took over its timeslot on Toonami). That was fucking torture.
 
Fat Tub of Lard said:
I remember Dimension W for the all the hype it got as the first anime directly funded by Funimation, as well as airing on Toonami super close to its Japanese airing.

It turned out to be nothing special in the end, and it was forgotten as quickly as it appeared. Myself, I liked the initial setup of "technophobe takes on evil technology", but the execution felt extremely "eh" to me. I still preferred it to Akame ga Kill (which took over its timeslot on Toonami). That was fucking torture.
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I feel the same way about Dimension W. The only thing I really liked about it was that the protagonist drives a Toyota 2000GT and a LFA, but those in the end didn't have any significance and felt like aimless props. The story really fell apart at the end.
 
Moguro Fukuzou said:
I'd disagree with it being milked to death since each new season, besides I think the second season (only one I haven't seen yet) that goes out of its way to reference the first season, is pretty separate with new casts and songs. Don't really consider it milking since it does do something new each time even if the basic plot beats might be shared, there are many popular series that are far worse when it comes to milking like Gundam.

You actually reminded me that the new series aired its first episode and it looks like it'll be fun, Kanon seems like a neat main character. The CGI is definitely not as good as Niji, still isn't bad just not as good, animation itself is pretty great though. Also, because of them still going through with the Olympics the series is going to be delayed multiple times and I'm not sure if it'll be the only anime impacted. Interesting to learn that this season is airing during prime time at like 7pm rather than late at night like most anime.
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I wonder (assuming that they haven't already revealed this) who will be the photobomber in LL Superstar!, since photobombing is a long-standing tradition in the LL franchise.
 
Gar For Archer said:
So apparently Record of Ragnorak just got butchered by Netflix, with the main criticism being that it looks like a fucking PowerPoint..

Yes that is actual animation from the fight. And the anime itself isn’t much better, though it was always going to be hard to adapt when the manga pretty much doesn’t have a plot.
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I remember reading about a 90s anime called Gundress that got shit on for not being finished, and that had more animation than the clip you posted.
 
Kari Kamiya said:
Yeah, Dimension W had an interesting premise, but it shoved in too many characters than was needed due to its short duration and moved away from the main protagonist's goals one too many times as a result. Only thing I really liked at the end of it all was Mira Yurizaki, who's quite the cutie.
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I hear you on the characters part. Half the time, a new character would pop up and I'd be like, "Who the hell is this guy and why should I give a shit about them?"

It's like in the middle of Akame ga Kill, where they introduced two new characters only to kill them off shortly afterwards. Hell, the girl died like two episodes after she was introduced. What's the point of getting attached to characters when they just die right afterwards?
 
Quick question for the learned anime fans in the thread : What is the name of that one show that generally gets recommended that's set in the space/future which has a fair amount of politics in it and was made somewhere around the 80s or early 90s based off the animation style. Note, that I know it isn't any iteration of Gundam or Macross. And I'm pretty sure it isn't Space Battleship Yamato.
 
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