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LightDragonman1 said:
What say you guys on this take on the fact and anime and manga are currently outselling a lot of View attachment 2246030Western media?
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He's got a point. I dont completely agree with him, but the Japanese are certainly taking advantage of the fact that most western story's are no longer being told.
 
Michael Wade said:
He's got a point. I dont completely agree with him, but the Japanese are certainly taking advantage of the fact that most western story's are no longer being told.
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Though I do have to take an issue with the fact that the poster is acting like anime and manga being inspired by all those works somehow makes them bad or mediocre.
 
LightDragonman1 said:
What say you guys on this take on the fact and anime and manga are currently outselling a lot of View attachment 2246030Western media?
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What a retarded Razorfist level tier opinion. We're sure he isn't altposting this? Though he'd go an extra mile and claim the japs steal from the French.

Almost all media is derivative of something that was written beforehand, so trying to attribute good stories to America is a ridiculous argument, especially the examples that are listed off (the fat American fuck never heard of Metropolis and the illiad) never mind the actual similarities are deep as a puddle.

New mangakas don't spawn from a puddle fully mature and able to draw. They have 18+ years of consuming entertainment which would give them plenty of interesting ideas what to write. Yeah 95% of the mangas are taking away someone's work with slight changes or appealing to the lowest common denominator, but that's true for all art.
 
LightDragonman1 said:
What say you guys on this take on the fact and anime and manga are currently outselling a lot of Western media?
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Wrong question. The correct question is "Why can't Western media tell engaging stories any more?"

Culture warriors might argue about "woke creators" but I don't buy it. Communists told good stories. Nazis wrote good movies.

I suspect we're seeing a more fundamental breakdown, where people responsible for making entertainment can't distinguish between a compelling story and random trash, and an over-reliance on "tests" that return numerical data that doesn't actually correlate with audience interest.
 
LightDragonman1 said:
What say you guys on this take on the fact and anime and manga are currently outselling a lot of View attachment 2246030Western media?
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I find it's a moot point because taking inspiration or ideas from other forms of media happens no matter the region or age, it's not something unique to Japan. If you look into most of the western works they listed as a gotcha you can see that they also typically took inspiration from earlier works, doesn't that make them just as derivative following his logic? You can't just claim it's bad when one side does it and fine when another author does, how many western creators have taken inspiration from Japanese works? This isn't even going into how much mythology, old folk lore, and fairy tales get taken into works through use of their themes or ideas that even the creators might not actively know they're using. With those things it's even harder to link to one specific region because ever region has its own variation of folk lore/fairy tale that is slightly different from each other to reflect the unique worries and desired messaging of those telling the stories. For example, look up a story like Cinderella and just see how many variations of the story it has.

Taking inspiration from another work isn't a bad thing as long as the author wants to try doing something with it by twisting in some of their own ideas. A work that is completely derivative holds none of that or actively worsens the story they are taking from, like the original Robocop versus the remake they shat out to add to the pile of terrible remakes of sci-fi classics.

BScCollateral said:
Wrong question. The correct question is "Why can't Western media tell engaging stories any more?"

Culture warriors might argue about "woke creators" but I don't buy it. Communists told good stories. Nazis wrote good movies.

I suspect we're seeing a more fundamental breakdown, where people responsible for making entertainment can't distinguish between a compelling story and random trash, and an over-reliance on "tests" that return numerical data that doesn't actually correlate with audience interest.
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I honestly hate how much culture warriors lay the blame for all the ills Western media faces on this ever present "woke creator" that has apparently wormed its way everywhere, rather than actually stopping to think. The problems currently facing Western media isn't so simple you can lay the blame on one thing like that, I think it's multiple issues all compiling together. A lot of films nowadays have this weirdly detached corporate feel to them devoid of creator intent, there's also far more focus on creating sequels or remakes of popular works while not understanding what made the original good.

I'd argue that a lot of the misfired strong female leads that culture warriors believe is a sign of wokeness is more creatively bankrupt writers being too lazy to try writing an actually compelling female lead and just make the cliffnotes version of strong snarky women with little emotion #8000.
 
BScCollateral said:
Wrong question. The correct question is "Why can't Western media tell engaging stories any more?"

Culture warriors might argue about "woke creators" but I don't buy it. Communists told good stories. Nazis wrote good movies.

I suspect we're seeing a more fundamental breakdown, where people responsible for making entertainment can't distinguish between a compelling story and random trash, and an over-reliance on "tests" that return numerical data that doesn't actually correlate with audience interest.
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It's primarily a lack of meritocracy. Only the shit floats upward and those people can't write to save their lives.
Besides that you have a general fear of innovation (very few can name a new comic character that isn't over a decade old), and TDS turning writers brains into mush, causing them to continuously insert messages that both are hateful to the core audience and doesn't fit (or outright negate) the story.
But the underlying reason for all those things is that comic books is that the comic book industry is carried entirely by non-profit purpose (since they are running on pure momentum), which lets them shit on the audience freely
 
Is this real or is this a very elaborate seven-year joke from "AnimeJokes" on Twitter?

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If it isn't a joke, and I'm not saying it's not, he got seven years in jail for torrenting anime? Or would the "resisting arrest" part account for the bulk of his jail time? (Even if it is real, there could always have been more charges than he's willing to admit on Twitter.)
 
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sasazuka said:
Is this real or is this a very elaborate seven-year joke from "AnimeJokes" on Twitter?

(note the dates)
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If it isn't a joke, and I'm not saying it's not, he got seven years in jail for torrenting anime? Or would the "resisting arrest" part account for the bulk of his jail time? (Even if it is real, there could always have been more charges than he's willing to admit on Twitter.)
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lmao he probably torrented cp
 
bigoogabaloogas said:
lmao he probably torrented cp
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While I'm not accusing him of anything since I don't know the facts (or whether this is just an elaborate, 7-year-long Twitter prank), that thought occurred to me as well, I can't say I've ever heard of anyone getting a visit from the police just for torrenting anime.

Doesn't an Intellectual Property owner wanting to enforce their copyright on BitTorrent generally just get the Internet Provider to send you a warning letter to stop otherwise they sue?

EDIT: People have been arrested for uploading anime to BitTorrent in Japan before so maybe it's legit if he's Japanese. I don't know where he is in the world, so I suppose that's a possibility.
 
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sasazuka said:
While I'm not accusing him of anything since I don't know the facts (or whether this is just an elaborate, 7-year-long Twitter prank), that thought occurred to me as well, I can't say I've ever heard of anyone getting a visit from the police just for torrenting anime.

Doesn't an Intellectual Property owner wanting to enforce their copyright on BitTorrent generally just get the Internet Provider to send you a warning letter to stop otherwise they sue?

EDIT: People have been arrested for uploading anime to BitTorrent in Japan before so maybe it's legit if he's Japanese. I don't know where he is in the world, so I suppose that's a possibility.
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Probably, but 7 years is a bit too much just for pirating anime. I'd understand if it was 1-3 years, but 7? there's something they're not telling us.
 
fugg i've been looking through baka-tsuki and I've finally remembered about horizon and its extremely lengthy novels. for perspective, the colored parts were adapted in the anime as season 1 and 2, and the second pic shows the completed series with a whopping length of 119.7cm when stacked together.

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