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I assumed the sad nagataro stuff was just regular sadporn. Like that old Lucky Star Fancomic where Kagami is alone at college.

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Lonely Kagamin actually has a happy ending though
 
Okay, to avoid the tragedy-fest the thread has taken…more funny romance manga.
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Think if in Nagatoro, Sempai immediately took anything Nagatoro said at face value and immediately took her up on her offers and you’d get this manga.
 
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It’s not so much that “cartoons that aren’t comedies” are seen as children’s entertainment, but that “cartoons that aren’t comedies” meant for adults are almost completely non-existent.

It’s just such a weird mindset to me because kid’s cartoons ARE pretty varied in genre. You have sitcoms, but you also have a good chunk of action of various genres, and stuff that for lack of a better term could probably be called slice-of-life. But for adult animation, you’re going to have a tough time finding something that ISN’T a raunchy sitcom. I dunno why they think that kids who grew up watching cool cartoons wouldn’t also want to watch cool cartoons but with more serious stories and mature themes when they grow up - it’s really kind of a baffling chicken-or-egg thing for me. Were cartoons pigeonholed as “children’s media” because nobody made “serious” adult cartoons, or did nobody make serous adult cartoons because cartoons were pigeonholed as children’s media? Where and when did this start?
I think it may be the later because I know that early WB, MGM and to an extend Disney weren't considered wholly "children's media" and could get decently dark for there time. Granted this was back when all cartoons where either movies or shorts that aired before movies so I kinda want to say this happened when TV animation started becoming more prevalent but part of me wants to also blame the MPAA for being a bit retarded since they give almost every 2d movie a G rating, and this includes shit from Don "showing fucked up things to kids is OK as long as there's a happy ending" Bluth,
 
wait, what happens in the manga?
I remember golden boy way back then on MTV of all things (when they still played music most of the time).
Still trying to figure out how to explain it... basically Kintaro goes into a VR thing because he became a sex addict, so he wants to reminisce/grow as a person, but it‘s basically just like 3 straight chapters of him getting NTR’d, and he decides that makes him a better person by not getting attached to women as things, and then he gets so distraught that the girl is more turned on by the bull which makes the power short out to the whole town and... end of manga. Or something.
 
Is there a term for when an anime crosses the line into "fuck this shit, it sucks" territory and you stop holding out hope it's going to get any better? Because Dynazenon Episode 9 has to be up there. Like how do you make the appearance of something as badass as the upgrade of the main robot so fucking boring and meaningless? All I wanted was at least a few cool fights and people screaming shit at each other, and this show can't even deliver that. Sad!

And I actually liked Gridman, at least that show kept the twists coming and made every fight not the exact same fucking fight. Like even generic 50 episode monster of the week shows have more diversity in fights and sense of progression between episodes than this mess.
 
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Is there a term for when an anime crosses the line into "fuck this shit, it sucks" territory and you stop holding out hope it's going to get any better? Because Dynazenon Episode 9 has to be up there. Like how do you make the appearance of something as badass as the upgrade of the main robot so fucking boring and meaningless? All I wanted was at least a few cool fights and people screaming shit at each other, and this show can't even deliver that. Sad!

And I actually liked Gridman, at least that show kept the twists coming and made every fight not the exact same fucking fight. Like even a generic 50 episode monster of the week shows have more diversity in fights and sense of progression between episodes than this mess.
Oh yeah I wanted to complain how the new mech looked like a fucking abortion but I forgot about it because the show is so forgettable. It also feels unearned, not one of the protagonists grew up in any way. The team still feels like they'd rather go home and feel depressed than protect their city.

Megas xlr had a better looking mech combination, and it was a joke:
 
Still trying to figure out how to explain it... basically Kintaro goes into a VR thing because he became a sex addict, so he wants to reminisce/grow as a person, but it‘s basically just like 3 straight chapters of him getting NTR’d, and he decides that makes him a better person by not getting attached to women as things, and then he gets so distraught that the girl is more turned on by the bull which makes the power short out to the whole town and... end of manga. Or something.
….wut.

No seriously, what?!
 
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Still trying to figure out how to explain it... basically Kintaro goes into a VR thing because he became a sex addict, so he wants to reminisce/grow as a person, but it‘s basically just like 3 straight chapters of him getting NTR’d, and he decides that makes him a better person by not getting attached to women as things, and then he gets so distraught that the girl is more turned on by the bull which makes the power short out to the whole town and... end of manga. Or something.
what is up with Japs and NTR?
 
Oh yeah I wanted to complain how the new mech looked like a fucking abortion but I forgot about it because the show is so forgettable. It also feels unearned, not one of the protagonists grew up in any way. The team still feels like they'd rather go home and feel depressed than protect their city.

Megas xlr had a better looking mech combination, and it was a joke:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=r8cCyNp9fNo
I think part of the problem is how it tries to cram in so much characterization and plots with its cast into too little space. And the problem there is that the plots seem to go nowhere and don't feel connected to any greater whole. There's nothing to keep me wondering like Gridman's big reveals. It's really a show that just kept stringing me along and making me expect "oh shit, dramatic reveal when" or "oh shit, fights are gonna get hardcore" but at some point you realize what a colossal waste of time it all is. This sort of pacing would barely work in a 50 episode show, let alone a 12 episode show.

And when you spend 3/4 of an episode on a plot that goes nowhere, you better make up for it with the fights, but every single fight is the exact same. It's almost like someone was trying to consciously avert the trope "hero gets smashed up, gets upgrade", but didn't realize why that trope exists, because having the heroes be handed a free upgrade without having to earn it feels like cheating, and having them use it on the usual monster of the week feels like a waste.

I do kind of like the upgrade's design though. You don't see a lot of shoulder cannons on those sorts of super robots.
 
About the new zombieland saga: Haha I remember when most people, including me, theorised that Yugiri got killed by a jealous lover. It's of course understandable we were off the mark back then but it's good that her actual death was way more interesting than that. And badass.
 
About the new zombieland saga: Haha I remember when most people, including me, theorised that Yugiri got killed by a jealous lover. It's of course understandable we were off the mark back then but it's good that her actual death was way more interesting than that. And badass.
Man, Yugiri truly is the 2nd best girl after Tae.
 
Also Rumiko Takahashi, whom you might know as the woman behind Ranma 1/2, Urusei Yatsura and Inuyasha has just joined Twitter.

She even revealed her working schedule and what it’s like being a mangaka artist.
One of the very few times where it's too bad I don't have a Twitter because it would be super interesting to ask her what it was like to be a woman in the field when she first started out. Some fan I had briefly been acquainted with years ago had claimed to have actually met Rumiko, and he told me that back in the '70s, she would have to walk to another block just to go to the restroom because the place she worked at didn't have women's toilets. And also, that she wrote Akane Tendō the way she did to satirize and flip on its head Japanese society's standards on how women are to behave and reciprocate men's advances.

Wouldn't surprise me if that was true, but it still would be nice to get her words directly just to make sure (and I could've remembered what he told me wrong).
 
I think part of the problem is how it tries to cram in so much characterization and plots with its cast into too little space. And the problem there is that the plots seem to go nowhere and don't feel connected to any greater whole. There's nothing to keep me wondering like Gridman's big reveals. It's really a show that just kept stringing me along and making me expect "oh shit, dramatic reveal when" or "oh shit, fights are gonna get hardcore" but at some point you realize what a colossal waste of time it all is. This sort of pacing would barely work in a 50 episode show, let alone a 12 episode show.

And when you spend 3/4 of an episode on a plot that goes nowhere, you better make up for it with the fights, but every single fight is the exact same. It's almost like someone was trying to consciously avert the trope "hero gets smashed up, gets upgrade", but didn't realize why that trope exists, because having the heroes be handed a free upgrade without having to earn it feels like cheating, and having them use it on the usual monster of the week feels like a waste.

I do kind of like the upgrade's design though. You don't see a lot of shoulder cannons on those sorts of super robots.
No, Trigger just absolutely sucks at writing characters. Zombieland Saga, a show about zombie girls making an idol group, managed to make a full story of three characters in about one hour runtime that was miles above anything Trigger wrote over full seasons.

It's like a comedian that keeps doing drama roles despite absolutely sucking at it. Trigger is good in making visually good fun action, yet it keeps making anime trying to have deep character interactions and it just fails every fucking time.

It's not the pacing, it's a lack of basic understanding what makes characters appealing and likable, and how to develop them to tie it to the plot. The only semi likable character in the new Gridman is the loli and characters from the previous show because they actually want to do shit rather than mope around.
 
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