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Should probably start with 13 or 26 episode anime’s first and then get into the longer stuff if you’re enjoying them
Most anime that go over 26 episodes aren’t worth watching anyways. There are a very few exceptions of course but most anime in general is trash just like most American animation. Though anime certainly has gotten worse in just a few short years as compared to where it was.

HunterxHunter was never good. It’s just another brain dead Naruto eske shonen trash heap the likes of One Piece or Dr. Stone.
 
Most anime that go over 26 episodes aren’t worth watching anyways. There are a very few exceptions of course but most anime in general is trash just like most American animation. Though anime certainly has gotten worse in just a few short years as compared to where it was.
I'd say it's the opposite. Most anime that get 2+ seasons have to have some sort of appeal, even if they aren't very good. There is so much shitty seasonal shovelware anime that gets a dozen episodes that exist solely to be consoomed by weebs who watch ten episodes of anime a day and then afterwards get forgotten forever.

Although I do agree that most anime is trash. As they say, 90% of everything is bad, and if think the number is too high then it's because you have no standards.
 
Most anime that go over 26 episodes aren’t worth watching anyways. There are a very few exceptions of course but most anime in general is trash just like most American animation. Though anime certainly has gotten worse in just a few short years as compared to where it was.
If you think current anime in aggregate is worse then 2000s anime you're blinded by nostalgia. As bad as isakai spam can be, it's nowhere near as constraining as when every anime was trying to be DBZ or the second half of NGE.

HunterxHunter was never good. It’s just another brain dead Naruto eske shonen trash heap the likes of One Piece or Dr. Stone.
Or you just have bad opinions.
 
I’d watch both FMAs, personally. Ignore everyone saying the 2003 anime is bad/weird/not worth it and judge for yourself. I loved it and still do. Hell, it’s possible to enjoy both.

A few others I’ll vouch for are Hellsing (most people will tell you to just watch Ultimate but the 2001 anime has its good points too, if you’re interested), Trigun, Gurren Lagann, Berserk and Cowboy Bebop. Tokyo Ghoul and Soul Eater aren’t bad either, and if you want something more comedic, there’s Azumanga Daioh.
 
Problem with most Japanese media is that it tends to stick with the same beats, just shuffling in novelties. The longer a Shonen or Action series runs, for example, the likelier a tournament arc is going to happen. Or a beach episode, or a hot springs episode, or extreme power creep. Each genre has its trope staples that, once you’ve seen it, has diminishing returns. Eventually, you’ll get burnt out and stop caring about it altogether. Then you’ll realize that you have tropes you like and tropes you hate, and start getting back into it only following series that tick more like than hate boxes.

My life is hell; I actually like Isekai, but I hate game systems and power creep. I can tolerate the former, but it will almost always lead to the latter.
 
Thanks for the suggestions!

Gotta clarify i have watched most of DBZ lol, its almost a religion where i live, every single boy in school gathered at a friend's house to watch the Frieza episodes, havent watched in a while but i loved it as a kid

The girlfriend suggests Soul Eater, what do you guys think about that one?
I found Soul Eater pretty boring, but a lot of people love it.

The better question is what kind of stories/movies do you usually enjoy? If you like weird comedy with some action, Soul Eater might work. If you like coming of age romance stories, I’d suggest CLANNAD. If you like sci-fi noir, I’d suggest Cowboy Bebop. If you like Monty Python, you should check out Cromartie High. Etc.

If I gad to pick an “introductory” or “quintissential” or whatever animem it’s FLCL. But I don’t think that’s a series that everyone will like, cause it’s very strange. I think the important part of anime is that it’s a medium, and probably has something for everyone, they just need to find the thing that resonates.
 
If I gad to pick an “introductory” or “quintissential” or whatever animem it’s FLCL. But I don’t think that’s a series that everyone will like, cause it’s very strange.
FLCL really and truly shouldn't be someone's first foray into anime unless they're already animation fans. It's a strange, strange show that perfectly encapsulates what even is anime, but it has a lot of animation quirks that fans of the medium will appreciate the first time around. It's definitely a quintessential show for anime fans, yes, but make it like someone's 50th or 100th overall anime.

Now Golden Boy is where it's at.
 
Surprised how no one mentions Studio Ghibli movies or Pokémon/Yu-Gi-Oh! as the best starter entry anime to watch. If not that, you can always try Digimon.
Pokémon’s like a good starter anime for 12 year olds, and I don’t even mean that as an insult. I think it’s in that category of shows where you kinda had to grow up with it to fully appreciate.
 
Surprised how no one mentions Studio Ghibli movies or Pokémon/Yu-Gi-Oh! as the best starter entry anime to watch. If not that, you can always try Digimon.
Eh, Ghibli is so mainstream that I feel like it doesn't count, though most are movies worth watching. Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh are good choices for a child, but I feel that they're way too long for an adult to get into if they're curious about anime.
 
Surprised how no one mentions Studio Ghibli movies or Pokémon/Yu-Gi-Oh! as the best starter entry anime to watch. If not that, you can always try Digimon.
Mainly because those are good safe choices for when a child's first getting into anime. But Digimon is definitely a good recommendation regardless, as it's rather mature for a children's series.
 
I gotta ask, what do you guys think the general reception of the medium as a whole is like nowadays?

I know back in the 2000s, while it was still gaining popularity, anime was being viewed by some as being "tacky, cheaply made, and holding no substance" for some people. By the way, that is a direct quote from this guy, who was one of the most popular people on Youtube during its early inception years. He basically said that liking anime was "beneath him", and many people agreed with him.
 
I gotta ask, what do you guys think the general reception of the medium as a whole is like nowadays?

I know back in the 2000s, while it was still gaining popularity, anime was being viewed by some as being "tacky, cheaply made, and holding no substance" for some people. By the way, that is a direct quote from this guy, who was one of the most popular people on Youtube during its early inception years. He basically said that liking anime was "beneath him", and many people agreed with him.
Honestly, I'd be fine if it kept that preconception. Popular things get heavily chained down.

The tacky, loose standards of topic, "I'll draw what I feel like drawing" "low brow" periodicals is what gives anime its charm as a medium, something that is rare in western comics and completely lost in western animation.
 
I gotta ask, what do you guys think the general reception of the medium as a whole is like nowadays?
2010s is when geek culture became "cool", and that's also coincidentally when anime got more mainstream in America when Toonami was revived and brought Attack on Titan and Sword Art Online to the public conscious. It's a monkey's paw scenario because it's great to bring in new anime fans however possible, but that meant bringing in the crazies who don't want people to have fun and want everything to be sterilized to their liking (which is never enough). Because capeshit also got hugely popular thanks to the MCU, when One Punch Man and My Hero Academia came out here, they became stupidly popular to the point you couldn't even be remotely critical about them, even though these are also the same people who were screeching about the female characters being sexualized.

I also still think it's hilarious how big JoJo's Bizarre Adventure has become now because when it was first airing on Toonami, the normies hated it just because of Jonathan. I suppose I'll have to give them credit for sticking around long enough to see it get good, but it still baffles me that an otherwise-chill fandom became such a shitstorm within a couple years.

If anything, I think I'm just more upset that new fans won't watch anything past 2008, at best, because anime afterwards is "too old". What a way to disrespect the legacies that were forged before many of us were even born.
 
I gotta ask, what do you guys think the general reception of the medium as a whole is like nowadays?

I know back in the 2000s, while it was still gaining popularity, anime was being viewed by some as being "tacky, cheaply made, and holding no substance" for some people. By the way, that is a direct quote from this guy, who was one of the most popular people on Youtube during its early inception years. He basically said that liking anime was "beneath him", and many people agreed with him.
It’s absolutely mainstream now, no debate about it. At the very least it’s no longer seen as a “nerd” hobby.
 
I gotta ask, what do you guys think the general reception of the medium as a whole is like nowadays?

I know back in the 2000s, while it was still gaining popularity, anime was being viewed by some as being "tacky, cheaply made, and holding no substance" for some people. By the way, that is a direct quote from this guy, who was one of the most popular people on Youtube during its early inception years. He basically said that liking anime was "beneath him", and many people agreed with him.
It's definitely much more popular now than it has ever been before and there's now a whole new generation of anime fan who has watched/grew up with an entire different set of shows.
If anything, I think I'm just more upset that new fans won't watch anything past 2008, at best, because anime afterwards is "too old". What a way to disrespect the legacies that were forged before many of us were even born.
I find it baffling that most of the people who I talk to who have recently got into anime in the last five years have not seen Fullmetal Alchemist, everyone who started watching anime from before 5 years ago had at least watched Brotherhood all the way through. I also keep getting called an old man for recommending Azumanga Daioh and GTO and it hurts. I feel like it is still important to at least make an effort of watching some of the old classics instead of whatever isekai shit is airing this season, but maybe I'm just bitter.
 
No adult is gonna watch Digimon.
I watched the movie back in 2000 when I was a kid, and I still remember when American critics panned the movie for being too childish. Yet, no adults back then had no issue with it when bringing their kids to see.

Eh, Ghibli is so mainstream that I feel like it doesn't count, though most are movies worth watching. Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh are good choices for a child, but I feel that they're way too long for an adult to get into if they're curious about anime.
I think it depends on what kind of Studio Ghibli movie. You can say Spirited Away or My Neighbor Totoro is mainstream, but you don’t see them saying the same thing regarding a Kiki’s Delivery Service or a Porco Rosso.

I don’t think they say the same thing for Nadia: The Shape Of Blue Water either.
 
I watched the movie back in 2000 when I was a kid, and I still remember when American critics panned the movie for being too childish. Yet, no adults back then had no issue with it when bringing their kids to see.
The movie got panned for a reason, I'm not going to deny it despite that movie being one of my biggest guilty pleasures. The TV show only was ripped apart by kids on the playground saying it was a Pokémon ripoff, it was otherwise liked by everyone who saw it all the way through and its sequel. Tamers was where it lost people.
 
Most anime that go over 26 episodes aren’t worth watching anyways. There are a very few exceptions of course but most anime in general is trash just like most American animation. Though anime certainly has gotten worse in just a few short years as compared to where it was.

HunterxHunter was never good. It’s just another brain dead Naruto eske shonen trash heap the likes of One Piece or Dr. Stone.
Disagree. Hunter x Hunter should be watched for the Yorknew City and Chimera Ant arcs alone. Those two arcs might be two of the best arcs I have ever read/seen.

And they really drive home just why Togashi is considered one of the best Mangaka authors to some.
 
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