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If I remember right, the reason YuGiOh! Kept going was because the duel monsters aspect of the game (introduced in volume 2, then was a primary focus in volumes 4-5) got big. But at least when it did pick up it was a DIRECT continuation. But I haven't read the manga in a long time so forgive me if I am wrong.
Personally, I feel like the first episode should've been longer, maybe at least 45 minutes to establish what's going on, but that's my opinion. Thankfully we get an intro to everyone at some point, but I do agree they really looked and Kaiba and kinda shoe horned a quick motive in duelist kingdom BEFORE you got the full picture in season 3. But mind you, even if you were a DVD watcher, in America that is, Kaiba's backstory is skipped so your left going "yo wtf was that" and you would be out of the loop unless you watched the tv airings.
Another opinion I have is I feel that Season 3 (like all of it) had the best animation out of all of duel monsters and then the studio went "fuck we're out of money shit what do we do now" since I think anyone who has interacted with YuGiOh is familiar with the "infamous dorrito chin Kaiba" or at least the meme of it. Hell there's so many low quality Kaiba's after S3 it makes my heart hurt.
Will say, while season 4 was kind of ass, "DURAW MONSTAH CAHDO" was a pretty good meme that came from it. Also tons of- dark back story- t'was very 2edgy4me of a season.
Also, to answer your question the reason Kaiba's duel disks ARE seen as revolutionary is because of the portability. You can't just up and pick up a phone booth shaped thing and go "hey we're going to have a duel here". The portability access is what makes it revolutionary since you can throw down a face down any time any place and have the cool 3d bells n whistles. Plus if the entire show was just "so let's just sit at this table" it would get boring fast. Imagine renting out an entire city and just clogging up the streets with 3d projection boxes. Waste of money, impractical / impossible, plus you can't get a crowd of people to stand around and start chanting like it's fight club.
Also the spin offs are good in their own way. The manga's are also pretty interesting as well, but I like the anime's better. I need to just do a whole Yu-Gi-Oh binge again but I refuse to watch past Arc V. Vrains and 7's don't appeal to me. ESPECIALLY 7's. That shit looks like it's that inuzuma 11 soccer shit tbh.
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It got listed on the PlayStation Store by mistake for a few hours a few days ago.
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That wasn't a dub change, that was in the original. IIRC it's part of a codeword so Yusei can get some information he needs or some shit.
5D's has that wonderful cyberpunk-meets-Inca aesthetic in the first arc and second arc is like someone wrote a crazy fucking mecha anime and it got turned into a Yugioh show. Unironically really cool in parts even if it drops the ball in others. And yes, children's card games on motorcycles is a blast to watch.
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Is it, though? Aside from the zombie premise it doesn't really feel all that different from other idol shows. You've got the training montages and inter-character drama leading to character development and the 3D song sequences that pretty much all idol anime I can think of have.
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I liked Mugen Train, though it does feel like a couple of episodes stretched together so I don't know how much I can call it a shonen film. My only gripe is after the last battle the fire dude took so long to die it started feeling like a parody at some point, plus I couldn't concentrate on the tragedy side of it since they know the fire dude for literally 2 hours and that Tanjiro's blacksmith will fucking kill him for losing his sword (I think I remember something similar happening before).
I think you're right. Maybe idol anime are just too simplistic to have a good parody that is longer than a single episode? Unless you go into the more seedy parts that would probably get a studio into a lot of shit.
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Shame they went for Mezame Returner again, was hoping for maybe Atsuku Nare considering it's Ai and Junko but the new version was really impressice
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Well people wanted everything to be Authentically Japanese, so extremely limited runs, and sky high scalper prices are the norm over there.
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Think I've found that I'm really not a fan of seasonal watching anymore because I dislike not being to watch at my own pace, going to severally downgrade on the amount of seasonal stuff I'm watching. I've also gotten interested in making one of those 3x3 pictures I always see on /a/ for my top shows and it's a lot harder than I thought it'd be. Not just going for shows I've given a 10 to because they were really good, but more shows that stick with me and invoke a strong emotional response, which makes me have to sit and think quite a bit. It's been a rather interesting thought experiment to look back on all the anime I've watched over the years and which ones stick.
I haven't actually rewatched much of Yu-Gi-Oh, but I remember I was about to watch Arc-V and then stopped after hearing about the massive bedshitting that occurred at the end that was so massive it made nico nico history for poor ratings. I remember at one point it over took every other anime to dominate the top 10 list for worst episodes with the last arc or something.
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Rewatching Yugioh sounds like a chore anyways, the dub Kaiba one-liner compilations are enough for me.
I might watch that one Kaiba movie though, I saw the clip where he fires someone over a water bottle not being sturdy enough, classic Kaiba.
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Yeah I've heard the Kaiba movie is pure Kaiba wank which makes me greatly interested in seeing it as a big fan of Kaiba.
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"Fire whoever made that bottle. Kaiba Corps products aren't supposed to bend that easily."
DSOD WAS REALLY GOOD.
Huge Kaiba fangirl ofc so it's my bias, but seeing it in theaters was AMAZING. Sadly the theater wouldn't sell their banner to me so when I went to see Demon Slayer last week I didn't bother trying to buy the poster since they said "we can't sell to outsiders / somebody on staff may have already called dibs on it".
Plus its only like $5 if you want a physical copy at Walmart. They play it on TV once in a blue moon too.
For me, there's a part involving a certain character that kind of didn't make sense to me, but I just need to do a re-watch of the movie. Also if you like 5d's, you can kinda see that influence in domino city's changing atmosphere. Also, this is super dumb but I love the little construction helmet bewd you can see on one of the posters.
Personally, I don't agree with the ending and it doesn't sit right with me because of certain character things but I won't say anything since I want people to watch the movie first before I spurge about it. But it was SUPER pretty and a must-see for Kaiba fans. I left the theater crying like a bitch but it's cause i'm over sensitive and an unapologetic Kaiba fan.
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I remember a long time ago going to see the Yu-Gi-Oh pyramid film (can't remember its name) when we actually got it released in theatres around here and they gave everyone that showed up a pack of promo cards. Thought it was the coolest thing ever even if I didn't actually play the card game and just collecting them like pokemon.
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Yep that was pyramid of Light and people got a blue eyes shining dragon. Sadly that was before my yugioh phase.
Dsod you got this cool obelisk the tormentor card abd when you buy the dvd you still get one actually. Just not in the silvery pack. theater guy nearly forgot to give me my card. Wanted to keep it mint but my idiot brother opened it. Oh well.
I love the card art work but I started buying strictly DM-5d's themed cards with Kaiba themed ones being my main collection.
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Ugh, that terrible line is obviously a total 4Kids! rewrite. In Japanese he is just yelling in his frustration over how there is no point dueling a mere virtual recreation of the other Yugi.
Dark Side of Dimensions is actually the canon sequel to the manga, in which Kaiba is obsessed with dueling the other Yugi again and
he spends millions to re-excavate and re-assemble the Millennium Puzzle only to finally realize that Atem's spirit is not longer inside it and he is gone for good. Then he builds what is essentially a convoluted suicide machine to kill himself so he can travel to the Egyptian afterlife to finally see Atem again. Talk about gay
I highly recommend watching Dark Side of Dimensions in Japanese because the dialogue really is hugely different, and there are some pretty bizarre themes that don't come up in the dub at all. Luckily it is one of the few pieces of Yu-Gi-Oh! animation where 4Kids! actually included the Japanese language on the Blu-ray. Also it is recommended that you read the two-shot manga Transcend Game, which lays the background for some of the more out there ideas. Namely the concept that what we think of as physical reality is actually a construct created by the collective subconscious of human beings, and that if you could harness and focus enough collective subconscious (either through technology or magic) you could change reality itself.
Again, world building details make no sense for anime watchers. Why is the Duel Links system considered revolutionary when there have already been two virtual world story arcs? Whereas in the manga this would be the first time any kind of total virtual reality is introduced.
Of course, it all turns out to be a ruse as Kaiba's real motive is to connect thousands of people to his virtual reality system and then funnel their collective subconscious into his suit to give himself essentially magic powers.
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Yea that's the part I cried at.
Maybe it's because I need to do a re-read of the manga since there's way better scans and I own a solid bulk of the physical copies (not all of them) but
I really think the whole part where Kaiba went back in time and didn't say goodbye to Mokuba or give any indication he was coming back was MEGA fucked up and goes against Kaiba's whole character of being an older brother figure to Mokuba and risking life and limb for him, I cried like a bitch leaving the theater over that part. Plus this movie at the end was fuel for prideshippers and I didn't care for that. What really doesn't make sense to me dub wise (cause I have no idea if it's different in sub but it might be) was the whole "you have your bond with him and I have mine" line where he looks actually happy and him and Mokuba go off to do whatever. THEN que the space elevator bullshit.
I like the movie but some shit doesn't hit right with me, but I'll chock it up to being a Kaiba fan since I was like a wee kiddo and there's personal stuff mixed in too but I digress.
I did enjoy the two shot since it lead to some good memes and references, but I like how the anime ended stuff better for my personal taste.
However, manga wise I DO wish we got to see this but I remember reading an interview that Takahashi got sick and this was cut: Takahashi has stated that he originally planned for the story to have further explored the relationship between Seto and Kisara (including a subplot where Seto rebels against the pharaoh to avenge Kisara's death), but in order to meet a deadline these details had to be cut. According to Takahashi, Seto's feelings for Kisara are the basis of Kaiba's modern-day obsession with the "Blue-Eyes White Dragon."
I just really want to do a whole ass re-watch of yugioh one day when I have the time tbh. I owe it to my little kid self.
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I mean, that was kind of the point. The original anime itself is a pretty generic kids' show that didn't do so hot on release. ADV was approached to do a dub for Western audiences, and aside from a couple basic rules like not changing character names, they were given free reign to do whatever they wanted to make it a success. The result was a highly-improvised gag dub that proved way more popular than a one-to-one dub would likely have ever been.
Don't get me wrong, excessive localization is annoying to see, especially in your favorite series. But I don't think there are that many Ghost Stories fans out there who are genuinely upset over the gag dub, and it's unlikely that sort of situation will ever happen again anyway.
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Power tool dragon. Untapped meme potential. Never seen in the anime but heavily advertised at the start of the 5DS anime in the card sets.
Its also unlikely we will ever get a fan dub like that again.
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Read the first volume of Dai Dark since it randomly popped up on Nyaa and the cover looked cool, pretty interesting first book. I've yet to read the author's other work Dorohedoro so it's my first experience with their style and I like its bizarre charm. Character designs are also pretty great and I like how you're just thrown into this world without much explanation on what's going on. Probably will pick it up physically at some point, makes me curious on Dorohedoro.
