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[Xenomorphs Are Cute]

So 'The Promised Neverland' is going live-action:

'The Promised Neverland' TV Series in the Works at Amazon

Masi Oka and 'Spider-Man: Into the Spiderverse' duo Rodney Rothman and Meghan Malloy are adapting the Vertigo manga as a live-action event series.

www.hollywoodreporter.com

I expect a massive multi-racial cast, race swapping and unnecessary pointless shit. I heard it gets trash towards the end, but what is the point of a 'live' adaption? I honestly don't understand. They always fail, always. The farther along you get in the adaption train, the higher the level of shit gets.

Light Novel - Manga - Anime - Television Series - Movie

Why don't you just fucking stop at anime? There's no need at a live adaption. It is completely fucking unnecessary. Who is this even fucking for? "Oh, I completely hate, anime, manga, subs and dubs but I really don't want to watch it in a 'cartoon' because it makes me feel icky because I'm an insecure faggot, so I'll just watch this shit TV adaption instead. Wow, this shit adaption makes no sense. Anime is so wacky!"

Anime and manga fans are just going to watch the anime. Normies aren't going to know what the fuck and shit gets even WORSE as you try to translate it down the chain. Seriously, its like a bad game of fucking telephone.

I have no particular attachment to TPN but stop fucking adapting anime for live action. There's no fucking point to it, it ALWAYS gets fucked up. Whats even more mind boggling is you have a guy who did 'Enter the Spiderverse' except he's doing it LIVE ACTION. WHY? The entire strength of 'Enter the Spiderverse' was animation.

I've actually got a lot of problems with TPN and its going to be a very WEIRD translation to TV. Its not really horror, as it abandons that element quickly. Its more like a prison drama with 11 year olds, which will NOT work out live action. You can get away with kids in anime because they're voices and you don't have to deal with child actors. But for a live action series comprised entirely of children? Fucking ugh.

I bet it was done because the entire first arc would be crazy cheap to produce.



Hopefully this series will spur a change where all anime actually develops relationships than just nervous glances for 45 episodes before someone struggles to say they like the other person in the last 30 seconds of a series.

TBH, the manga is shit since Goldy Pond, all the live-action will do is make it worse. IDK which one is worse tho, Netflix adaption or Amazon? Cause Amazon never made LA Anime Adaption, Netflix failed it before with Death Note, & will keep failing going by the latest revealed news about LA Cowboy Bebop adaption.

BTW, Reminder that next TPN chapter would be the final chapter in the manga. Yes, next chapter is the finale. FINALLY

 

[Secret Asshole]

TBH, the manga is shit since Goldy Pond, all the live-action will do is make it worse. IDK which one is worse tho, Netflix adaption or Amazon? Cause Amazon never made LA Anime Adaption, Netflix failed it before with Death Note, & will keep failing going by the latest revealed news about LA Cowboy Bebop adaption.

BTW, Reminder that next TPN chapter would be the final chapter in the manga. Yes, next chapter is the finale. FINALLY

Honestly, anime adaptions just don't work. Anime is highly stylized live action, and you can't get that from...live action. I heard that about the manga, but a lot of people still seem to be in denial about it.

I downloaded the Manga because I'm curious. Much like Tokyo Ghoul. Is it that bad?

 

[Xenomorphs Are Cute]

Honestly, anime adaptions just don't work. Anime is highly stylized live action, and you can't get that from...live action. I heard that about the manga, but a lot of people still seem to be in denial about it.

I downloaded the Manga because I'm curious. Much like Tokyo Ghoul. Is it that bad?

I won't spoil story, but I will say that after the Goldy Pond arc, you'll see a decline of sorts, which'll turn into a straight up digress.

Spoilers as to why

Spoiler: Major Spoiling Reasons

>Fem-MC starts to become way too Mary Sue like, but thankfully not as condescending compared to western Mary Sues, (e.g. Korra, Rey, Captain Marvel, etc.), seriously, IDK if it's just me, but I really don't like how Westerners write women nowadays.

>Story starts losing it's theme & magic, you won't actually think that this is the same mangaka that wrote till Goldy Pond arc due to the strange direction it starts to take. In fact, it becomes way too convenient & shounen-y at the climax of it all, there's no such thing as consequences for actions until recently, but next chapter is final chapter anyway so what's the point, at this point? & characters are shockingly coming back to life at times & shit gets solved like nothing,

>The last villain is objectively the worst villain I've seen in a shounen, if not a Japanese story in general (I'm sorry, I just hate Korra villains too much, they're all so fucking bad, they make all others look better). The villain is so pathetic that it's insulting to read. In fact, a cliffhanger was about to make people drop it due to a chance of "Talk no Jutsu" & "power of friendship actually about to work" (It didn't),

>An unnecessary death has happened recently for no reason than just for the sake of it.

The only saving grace after some time are the world-building & art, the finale feels like killing the zombie of a dead horse, whose feeling pain at every breath it takes.

 

[jspit]

So 'The Promised Neverland' is going live-action:

'The Promised Neverland' TV Series in the Works at Amazon

Masi Oka and 'Spider-Man: Into the Spiderverse' duo Rodney Rothman and Meghan Malloy are adapting the Vertigo manga as a live-action event series.

www.hollywoodreporter.com

I expect a massive multi-racial cast, race swapping and unnecessary pointless shit. I heard it gets trash towards the end, but what is the point of a 'live' adaption? I honestly don't understand. They always fail, always. The farther along you get in the adaption train, the higher the level of shit gets.

Light Novel - Manga - Anime - Television Series - Movie

Why don't you just fucking stop at anime? There's no need at a live adaption. It is completely fucking unnecessary. Who is this even fucking for? "Oh, I completely hate, anime, manga, subs and dubs but I really don't want to watch it in a 'cartoon' because it makes me feel icky because I'm an insecure faggot, so I'll just watch this shit TV adaption instead. Wow, this shit adaption makes no sense. Anime is so wacky!"

Anime and manga fans are just going to watch the anime. Normies aren't going to know what the fuck and shit gets even WORSE as you try to translate it down the chain. Seriously, its like a bad game of fucking telephone.

I have no particular attachment to TPN but stop fucking adapting anime for live action. There's no fucking point to it, it ALWAYS gets fucked up. Whats even more mind boggling is you have a guy who did 'Enter the Spiderverse' except he's doing it LIVE ACTION. WHY? The entire strength of 'Enter the Spiderverse' was animation.

I've actually got a lot of problems with TPN and its going to be a very WEIRD translation to TV. Its not really horror, as it abandons that element quickly. Its more like a prison drama with 11 year olds, which will NOT work out live action. You can get away with kids in anime because they're voices and you don't have to deal with child actors. But for a live action series comprised entirely of children? Fucking ugh.

I bet it was done because the entire first arc would be crazy cheap to produce.



Hopefully this series will spur a change where all anime actually develops relationships than just nervous glances for 45 episodes before someone struggles to say they like the other person in the last 30 seconds of a series.

It fails until it doesn't. Same with everything. You keep sending canaries.

 

[Secret Asshole]

I won't spoil story, but I will say that after the Goldy Pond arc, you'll see a decline of sorts, which'll turn into a straight up digress.

Spoilers as to why

Spoiler: Major Spoiling Reasons

>Fem-MC starts to become way too Mary Sue like, but thankfully not as condescending compared to western Mary Sues, (e.g. Korra, Rey, Captain Marvel, etc.), seriously, IDK if it's just me, but I really don't like how Westerners write women nowadays.

>Story starts losing it's theme & magic, you won't actually think that this is the same mangaka that wrote till Goldy Pond arc due to the strange direction it starts to take. In fact, it becomes way too convenient & shounen-y at the climax of it all, there's no such thing as consequences for actions until recently, but next chapter is final chapter anyway so what's the point, at this point? & characters are shockingly coming back to life at times & shit gets solved like nothing,

>The last villain is objectively the worst villain I've seen in a shounen, if not a Japanese story in general (I'm sorry, I just hate Korra villains too much, they're all so fucking bad, they make all others look better). The villain is so pathetic that it's insulting to read. In fact, a cliffhanger was about to make people drop it due to a chance of "Talk no Jutsu" & "power of friendship actually about to work" (It didn't),

>An unnecessary death has happened recently for no reason than just for the sake of it.

The only saving grace after some time are the world-building & art, the finale feels like killing the zombie of a dead horse, whose feeling pain at every breath it takes.

I feel you. And most people have a problem with the way Western female characters are written. I getcha, I'll see through it anyway. I enjoy dissecting why things fail personally. As long as I'm not surprised.

It fails until it doesn't. Same with everything. You keep sending canaries.

The only way these adaptions work is if you twist them. For example, 'The Promised Neverland' really isn't a horror story. But you could easily make it into one. Get Guillermo del Toro and have it work as a pure horror story instead of this weird hybrid prison escape story. Do something different with your adaptions, because direct adaptations are fucking pointless unless its an anime.

 

[CivilianOfTheFandomWars]

So I just finished Helen ESP and I thought it was fucking great. I found it because one of my favorite manga is Franken Fran by the same author, and was looking at what else they made. It didn’t disappoint.
Basically, it follows this deaf, blind, and dumb girl who also is starting to develop her ESP powers. Along with her dog and my main nigga, her uncle who took her in after the accident that handicapped Helen and killed her parents.
The tone is hard to describe, kind of esoteric I guess. Where Franken Fran was about horror, there’s little of that in Helen ESP. There’s some dark stuff, but it mainly tries to go a more hopeful route. There are moments that actually got me a little choked up, but in a good way.
Overall, it’s very short but very good. If you are looking for something a bit odd but also a good story, I’d give Helen ESP a shot.

 

[Jonah Hill poster]

I love Legend of the Galactic Heroes, but this is just mean.

 

[Trashfire Garbagefuck]

Reminder that next TPN chapter would be the final chapter in the manga. Yes, next chapter is the finale. FINALLY

I'm excited but wary for how bad the final chapter is gonna be. every chapter makes the series progressively worse at this point, the last few oooooh boy.

Spoiler: Promised Neverland final arc spoilers

the kids all escape to the human world after emma ends up talk no jutsu-ing the demons into changing their entire government and handing off control to someone they've never heard of until just that day. actually that's a disservice to naruto, even the most egregious examples of talk no jutsu weren't this absurd. even with pain or obito. old emma would choose a reckless impossible path, and go out of her way to make it plausible. now the universe just MAKES her demands plausible and she doesn't work for it. only the final boss doesn't listen to her horseshit and she still has to get killed via deus ex machina for the most part. it was a fun flashy fight at least and she don't take no guff from no mary sues.

so in the human world it turns out a series of epidemics and a world war fucked the planet in 2020-2030 and it destroyed america. the people of the earth realized the only way forward was to come together, eliminate all national borders, and submit to a single world government. no seriously that's what went down.

there was a worry over whether the human world would accept the cattle children built up from the moment that became a goal, but nope instant acceptance within moments of being sent there everything is just perfect no struggles. also they spend half the chapter mindlessly praising the MC for being reckless and not planning anything.

literally the only good thing about this series post-goldy pond was ayshe', and her character NEVER went anywhere or did anything after her little arc. of course the way her backstory ended just adds more fuel to this dumpsterfire because it implied an actual interesting conflict with norman. instead she just completely forgot about her revenge and he gets to apologize for everything else and betray his own character development because emma's just so gosh darn cute DONT KILL THE EVIL DEMON ARISTOCRACY THEY'RE PEOPLE TOO LOL. except they still all died and it was necessary stop complaining emma jesus christ. the series tries to do the "killing is wrong" thing but also kill anyways and nothing bad happens.

of the original trio of norman/ray/emma ray gets fucked over the least, but he still becomes irrelevant, just another person to cheer lead emma. maybe that's a WORSE fate. supposedly the writer planned to kill him off but got cold feet, which would explain why he stopped having an impact on the narrative.

I'm really curious to see that original 300 page treatment for the story. the writing was top notch until it inexplicably nosedived after goldy pond. was there some better plan originally? did the writer only have a basic skeleton and ran out of meat partway through? or does that treatment end on a cliffhanger and once they reached that point they were screwed?

 

[Secret Asshole]

I'm excited but wary for how bad the final chapter is gonna be. every chapter makes the series progressively worse at this point, the last few oooooh boy.

Spoiler: Promised Neverland final arc spoilers

the kids all escape to the human world after emma ends up talk no jutsu-ing the demons into changing their entire government and handing off control to someone they've never heard of until just that day. actually that's a disservice to naruto, even the most egregious examples of talk no jutsu weren't this absurd. even with pain or obito. old emma would choose a reckless impossible path, and go out of her way to make it plausible. now the universe just MAKES her demands plausible and she doesn't work for it. only the final boss doesn't listen to her horseshit and she still has to get killed via deus ex machina for the most part. it was a fun flashy fight at least and she don't take no guff from no mary sues.

so in the human world it turns out a series of epidemics and a world war fucked the planet in 2020-2030 and it destroyed america. the people of the earth realized the only way forward was to come together, eliminate all national borders, and submit to a single world government. no seriously that's what went down.

there was a worry over whether the human world would accept the cattle children built up from the moment that became a goal, but nope instant acceptance within moments of being sent there everything is just perfect no struggles. also they spend half the chapter mindlessly praising the MC for being reckless and not planning anything.

literally the only good thing about this series post-goldy pond was ayshe', and her character NEVER went anywhere or did anything after her little arc. of course the way her backstory ended just adds more fuel to this dumpsterfire because it implied an actual interesting conflict with norman. instead she just completely forgot about her revenge and he gets to apologize for everything else and betray his own character development because emma's just so gosh darn cute DONT KILL THE EVIL DEMON ARISTOCRACY THEY'RE PEOPLE TOO LOL. except they still all died and it was necessary stop complaining emma jesus christ. the series tries to do the "killing is wrong" thing but also kill anyways and nothing bad happens.

of the original trio of norman/ray/emma ray gets fucked over the least, but he still becomes irrelevant, just another person to cheer lead emma. maybe that's a WORSE fate. supposedly the writer planned to kill him off but got cold feet, which would explain why he stopped having an impact on the narrative.

I'm really curious to see that original 300 page treatment for the story. the writing was top notch until it inexplicably nosedived after goldy pond. was there some better plan originally? did the writer only have a basic skeleton and ran out of meat partway through? or does that treatment end on a cliffhanger and once they reached that point they were screwed?

I mean, the problem is that, yeah, killing in general is wrong. But sometimes, people have to die. Like anyone who decides to farm sentient creatures who can think, feel and communicate with you and then mercilessly kill them and devour them for their own pleasure deserves to fucking die. Even JC would have thrown people into an eternity of nothingness for that shit. With the Jesus metaphors, a lot of people forget Jesus was basically a rebel leader, and while very compassionate, but he was also uncompromising. As in, 'Its easier for a rich man to pass a camel through the eye of a needle than get into heaven' because of all the horrors they commit on other humans for the sake of their material possessions.

Jesus wouldn't be so forgiving to those demons and that's where authors screw up the Jesus narrative. And Jesus was NOT perfect. Anyone who says he was hasn't read the bible. He was terrified of getting crucified, had his doubts but did it anyway. Because Jesus was human. That's why these Jesus narratives are so terrible, because they misunderstand Jesus as a person. The exemplify his divinity without recognizing his humanity. Its really why I hate Jesus narratives. Even Jesus loved some people over others, went farther for his friends than normal people. Because he was both human and divine. To exclude the flaws of Christ defeats the whole purpose of his sacrifice. Jesus was not a perfect person and that what makes his story beautiful, because he was human, he experienced love, fear and sadness and gave up himself to wipe sin and evil from the world. He wasn't some perfect inhuman being. I've rarely read a Jesus narrative where this was acknowledged. They're always perfect, love everyone equally and flawless. That's not Jesus.

For stories, sometimes you get fatigued or it changes. You can write a treatment or an outline, but sometimes it organically morphs as you begin writing it. Sometimes changes you make in the treatment in the beginning make the later story impossible and you have to go in a different direction. All the stories I plan out in my head or on paper inevitably change because of how my characters change and react to the events in them. Events I want to happen no longer become feasible because the characters develop in different ways than I expected.

Your brain mind notices this in stories were characters develop differently, but the author railroads them. It feels unnatural and forced, where you get characters that are just pushed into this direction that they normally wouldn't go, but the author wants them to because the author wants to stick to original planned plot points, even though they no longer fit.

 

[Gar For Archer]

So I just finished Helen ESP and I thought it was fucking great. I found it because one of my favorite manga is Franken Fran by the same author, and was looking at what else they made. It didn’t disappoint.
Basically, it follows this deaf, blind, and dumb girl who also is starting to develop her ESP powers. Along with her dog and my main nigga, her uncle who took her in after the accident that handicapped Helen and killed her parents.
The tone is hard to describe, kind of esoteric I guess. Where Franken Fran was about horror, there’s little of that in Helen ESP. There’s some dark stuff, but it mainly tries to go a more hopeful route. There are moments that actually got me a little choked up, but in a good way.
Overall, it’s very short but very good. If you are looking for something a bit odd but also a good story, I’d give Helen ESP a shot.

I tried reading Franken Fran because I liked the concept - and I’m not sure if it’s just the translation I read but there were quite a few chapters where I couldn’t tell what the hell was going on, or there was clearly SOME implication I was supposed to be getting but I just couldn’t figure out. I think I got to the end of the first volume and never bothered starting the second.

Is it one of those manga that gets better/develops an actual plot as it goes on?

 

[CivilianOfTheFandomWars]

I tried reading Franken Fran because I liked the concept - and I’m not sure if it’s just the translation I read but there were quite a few chapters where I couldn’t tell what the hell was going on, or there was clearly SOME implication I was supposed to be getting but I just couldn’t figure out. I think I got to the end of the first volume and never bothered starting the second.

Is it one of those manga that gets better/develops an actual plot as it goes on?

Kind of. It’s still mainly oneshot type stories, but with more world building and callbacks as it goes on. I like that kind of thing, but I get why others don’t. As for the translation, I don’t remember where I read it but it was just fine, so maybe you found a poor one.
Helen ESP definitely has a more linear approach to telling the story, but each chapter is still it’s own little story. A bit like an old ‘monster-of-the-week’ show.

 

[Scarlett Johansson]

Sure the horrific child death anime gets a live action adaptation.

I'm still pissed Noir got canned.

 

[SteelPlatedHeart]

The only live action anime adaptation I’ve seen work was the Ace Attorney movie and that because they fully embraced the goofiness of the story.

 

[Secret Asshole]

Sure the horrific child death anime gets a live action adaptation.

I'm still pissed Noir got canned.

Don't get salty over live action adaptions. They're all trash.

The only reason Ace Attorney can remotely even work is because its basically a goofy courtroom drama that is easily translated.

 

[Just Some Other Guy]

Oh boy, fuckin' TPN. My wife and I tried watching that, but it fell off a cliff for us pretty quick.

 

[Scarlett Johansson]

Don't get salty over live action adaptions. They're all trash.

The only reason Ace Attorney can remotely even work is because its basically a goofy courtroom drama that is easily translated.

The poor guy who played Phoenix is gay. He had to quit the industry and move to Amsterdam. They replaced him in the Yakuza remaster.

 

[Secret Asshole]

Oh boy, fuckin' TPN. My wife and I tried watching that, but it fell off a cliff for us pretty quick.

I mean it has HUGE Darling in the Franxx vibes, starts off as horror but clearly isn't, and becomes an escape story. Also lol at anyone who thinks Norman is dead. No body, not confirmed.

The poor guy who played Phoenix is gay. He had to quit the industry and move to Amsterdam. They replaced him in the Yakuza remaster.

Shit, don't be gay in Japan.

 

[Jonah Hill poster]

I’ve found that liking Idolm@ster and Love Live Sunshine can make your high blood pressure go down.

Also I heard BANG! Dream is pretty good, too. Can anyone confirm this?

 

[Scarlett Johansson]

Question about Sailor Pluto

Spoiler

She sacrifices herself in the original anime yes, but like....how does she return

 

[sasazuka]

Question about Sailor Pluto

Spoiler

She sacrifices herself in the original anime yes, but like....how does she return

She reincarnates backwards in time or some such nonsense like that, so any future Setsuna is actually a previous version of herself or something "because time portal".