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wtfNeedSignUp said:
I really disliked the second season, felt like the creators tried to rip off GoT with the vampires while the heroes were stuck in the library for 3/4 of the season. The big problem is that you know from the start that the vampires would fail because otherwise Dracula won't be the main boss, so there isn't really any tension. Also doesn't help that all the characters in the vampire court are horrible people.
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The big problem is that you know from the start that the vampires would fail
Depends on what you mean by "fail" here. Fail to stay alive, sure but that's what happens to henchmen. Carmilla and Godbrand's mutiny seemed doomed to failure and then she wound up not even being a factor at the end and technically succeeded since (as of now) Drac is dead and she isn't.

otherwise Dracula won't be the main boss, so there isn't really any tension
That's true for a lot of anime though. You know Goku's gonna win every time yet DBZ is still one of the biggest Japanese cartoons ever created. Most shounen stuff is the same (your Naruto, Bleach, Black Clover, BNHAetc, etc, etc). It's obvious Drac is going down but the way things actually played out at the end was almost entirely unpredictable. I didn't expect they would emerge victorious the very first time they took him on did I expect it would ultimately be Dracula letting himself get staked.

It's a series based around Dracula based off a videgame series about beating up Dracula so originality was never going to be one of its strong suits but I feel like the new characters they added have done a good job thus far of keeping things from being entirely too predictable to it just being "Belmont or Alucard goes into castle, murders thousands of underlings than punches Drac in the face so he fucks off for another generation or two rinse, wash, repeat"

Also doesn't help that all the characters in the vampire court are horrible people.
It's the middle ages, everybody's horrible. The whole plot is based around citizens sitting back and watching as the inquisitors burned the innocent wife of an unstoppable monster to death for trying to help people.
 
Pinot Pierrot said:
I don't usually follow seasonal anime, but for once I'm keeping an eye on two works (since I've already read their manga):

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In-Spectre

I've mentioned it before in the thread, but the basic gist is that the young lady in front is a representative for youkai, having exchanged her left leg and right eyeball years ago as a child to accept the role. With her sharp intellect and host of spiritual informants, she fulfills the requests of various youkai across Japan and conducts conflict mediation, all for the sake of keeping the affairs between humans and youkai separate.

Meanwhile, the guy behind her is her (unwilling) boyfriend, and is a direct product of humans and youkai interference. That's not why he's with her though; she just finds him hot. He's the muscle, she's the brain.

Something to note is that the manga (and the novel it's based from) is WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS. This isn't the only manga to be dialogue-heavy, but boy, can things get lengthy. If the chapters weren't around the ballpark of 55~ pages each, the text density would rival the most offensive Hunter x Hunter exposition dumps. That's because of the particular goal set out by the protagonists - in spite of the title pun, they're don't necessarily have to find the truth in each mystery provided. They have evidence available thanks to the girl's resources, but the only thing they need to do is to give a logical and satisfactory explanation to their clients, actual accuracy be damned. So long as their explanation is accepted, they're golden. A lot of times a client may plead for more details or call bullshit to the girl's claims, to which she would swiftly move on to another theory without skipping a beat. In some cases she deliberately bombards a client with conjecture upon conjecture until they confuse themselves and become more open to suggestion. I'm interested in seeing how this plays out in an animated format.

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Somali and the Forest Spirit

This one is about a world where monsters of all shapes and sizes live peacefully among each other. The same cannot be said for humans, however - it was said that a long time ago, the two races came into contact, like two waves crashing into the same lane. While attempts were made to get along, tensions between the two races quickly escalated into a great conflict.

Humans lost the war almost immediately.

Humanity as a whole has been reduced to a distant memory to most monster folk. Human meat has become a delicacy, and what few settlements that had survived were wiped out in human hunts. And with this cheery backstory in mind, a small, disheveled human girl in chains enters the forest domain of a golem. Much to his confusion, she immediately latches onto him while calling him father. Now, the golem embarks on a grand journey beyond the confines of the forest with her by his side to find her family, not quite aware that he's becoming quite the parent himself.

I'm not gonna lie, I'm just an easy sucker for stories about parenthood. This one in particular gets bonus points because I can listen to Jotaro talk like an actual father for a change.
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From what was released so far In-Spectre looks like fun, the dialogue keeps the show interesting and flowing. I like mystery shows and it doesn't make far reaching or too obvious logical leaps.

I want to watch Somali but it gives me a huge feeling of dread, like some bad shit is going to happen down the line.

Oh Shit I'm Sorry said:
The big problem is that you know from the start that the vampires would fail
Depends on what you mean by "fail" here. Fail to stay alive, sure but that's what happens to henchmen. Carmilla and Godbrand's mutiny seemed doomed to failure and then she wound up not even being a factor at the end and technically succeeded since (as of now) Drac is dead and she isn't.

otherwise Dracula won't be the main boss, so there isn't really any tension
That's true for a lot of anime though. You know Goku's gonna win every time yet DBZ is still one of the biggest Japanese cartoons ever created. Most shounen stuff is the same (your Naruto, Bleach, Black Clover, BNHAetc, etc, etc). It's obvious Drac is going down but the way things actually played out at the end was almost entirely unpredictable. I didn't expect they would emerge victorious the very first time they took him on did I expect it would ultimately be Dracula letting himself get staked.

It's a series based around Dracula based off a videgame series about beating up Dracula so originality was never going to be one of its strong suits but I feel like the new characters they added have done a good job thus far of keeping things from being entirely too predictable to it just being "Belmont or Alucard goes into castle, murders thousands of underlings than punches Drac in the face so he fucks off for another generation or two rinse, wash, repeat"

Also doesn't help that all the characters in the vampire court are horrible people.
It's the middle ages, everybody's horrible. The whole plot is based around citizens sitting back and watching as the inquisitors burned the innocent wife of an unstoppable monster to death for trying to help people.
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Even in DBZ, if someone that isn't Goku fought it either was to achieve some objective or show his growth/villains power and has stakes if the characters gets seriously hurt, there is still a point for it. But when you don't care about the characters who goes through the conflict then even those struggles are just boring. There's a great example of it with One-Punch Man biker guy fight.

I also don't agree that's the middle ages means the people are horrible. It's extremely shitty writing with usually edgy anti-christian opinions.

The show coult have had instead the vampies communicating with the cast while they climbed the castle, maybe have some vampires with a sadder backstory and reason for revenge that isn't getting more power. The castle in Castlevania is extremely varied with multiple diverse location in it, and it is relegated to a single episode.
 
Oh Shit I'm Sorry said:
They've confirmed a 3rd season which I guess will continue from where they left off with Isaac and Carmilla or whatever still being out there. I somewhat expected them to fast forward a bit and bring in a different Belmont to contend with Drac's latest resurrection since that's the ultimate plot of the series though depending on how long they plan on this series going that's certainly something that could still happen.
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What it comes apparently is uncharted territory, in the Castlevania twitter account they have a header with characters never seen in any game, considering that Konami is blue balling us i will take whatever i can

Btw one of the writers of Castlevania jokingly stated that he want to animate Bloodborne

Oh Shit I'm Sorry said:
I didn't expect they would emerge victorious the very first time they took him on did I expect it would ultimately be Dracula letting himself get staked.
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Funny thing this is canon in the Castlevania lore, specifically in SOTN, i did not get it the first time because i had the american version, it was not until i played the retranslated PSX version that i finally understood

Pinot Pierrot said:
the text density would rival the most offensive Hunter x Hunter exposition dumps
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Dont read any Kamachi Kazuma LN outside of Index, i think you can make a essay about clean nuclear reactors and affordability on Railguns with the first volume of HEAVY OBJECT
 
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What is it about popular shonen anime that makes people insist that all the male characters are gay and that the protagonist is a effeminate bottom? Like it use to be Naruto, now it’s currently My Hero Academia...
 
Watching through Space Dandy again, I would reccomend it to anyone looking for a more lighthearted Cowboy Bebop or Samurai Champloo.
Its a shame certain episodes look a little ugly due to them bringing in new staff for every episode.
 
So any thoughts about Black Clover? I was about to give up on it early on, but now I'm really enjoying it.
 
mr.moon1488 said:
So any thoughts about Black Clover? I was about to give up on it early on, but now I'm really enjoying it.
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I watched the first episode in dub, cuz the main guy's VA was less annoying than in the Japanese version. I lost it at "My magic is not giving up!"
Might be too early to tell for where I'm at but it just seems like a carbon copy of Naruto.
 
BlindBulldog said:
I watched the first episode in dub, cuz the main guy's VA was less annoying than in the Japanese version. I lost it at "My magic is not giving up!"
Might be too early to tell for where I'm at but it just seems like a carbon copy of Naruto.
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He actually gets a lot less annoying later on. I think the Nip viewers were bitching about it too, so they toned him way down. It took longer for them to stop putting in like five minutes of nothing but recap though.
 
mr.moon1488 said:
He actually gets a lot less annoying later on. I think the Nip viewers were bitching about it too, so they toned him way down. It took longer for them to stop putting in like five minutes of nothing but recap though.
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Might give it another try then after I work my way through a few things on the backlog. A little recap probably won't matter much, I'm one of those rubes who only gave up on Bleach about 300 episodes in. (I skipped the filler but even so...)
 
mandatorylurk said:
Seton Academy is an enjoyable time killer slice of life show.
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More like slice of wildlife.

Youtube clips sucked me in. The show is not as embarrassing as I thought it would be (its still plenty embarrassing though). Only real mark against it is that human girl and koala girl are bland as fuck for being main cast characters. But its still early. Maybe they'll develop personalities throughout the season.
 
SteelPlatedHeart said:
What is it about popular shonen anime that makes people insist that all the male characters are gay and that the protagonist is a effeminate bottom? Like it use to be Naruto, now it’s currently My Hero Academia...
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Tbf, the whole tomodachi trend that's in shonen (and honestly, anime in general) is pretty fucking gay. That, and fujos pay big bucks. Its an unfortunate fact, but stuff like Attack on Titan, Demon Slayer, even Gundam, banked heavily on that lady cash.

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Well BnHA: Illegals just threw in one hell of a plot twist. Given how the manga seems to be ending soon, it’s probably gonna be a big thing too.
 
Probably a fairly niche question but: are any of the '70s - '80s super robot animes worth watching?

The few times I've tried to get into one (e.g. Mazinger Z) they always seemed too simple and plotless to keep my attention, like the type of shows you could skip ahead ten episodes at a time and not miss any new plot developments or character growth.
 
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