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Hilariously, Toonami is censoring Fire Force fan-service episodes and has a standards and practices division.

My thoughts were....who the fuck still watches Toonami?

Toonami still airs late at night, right? We're not talking the afternoon/evening slot for kids right?

In which case what the fuck?

But you're right, who still watches anime on broadcast television? I myself haven't watched anime on Adult Swim/Toonami in over a decade, but I did like the fact that they kept doing it for the sentimental value of it if nothing else, but if they censor shit to that degree they might as well retire it, who in their right mind is going to watch censored anime in a less convenient way than what everyone has access to?

Koreans need to grow the fuck up and get over this shit. They have an outrage/victim culture and they constantly try to extort money out of Japan for this. And for the record:
Japan has apologized for this over and over. Pretty much everyone involved in the war, the Imperial soldiers and the ianfu comfort women, are all dead. Although Korea keeps "finding" new comfort women to trot out to use when the old ones die.

I don't believe in this generational/racial/ethnic guilt thing that people are trying to push all over the world. Are all the old Axis Power nations supposed to grovel and beg for forgiveness for all eternity? WWII was a long time ago.

Yeah, I don't understand the point of that mindset either.
 
Now here's a new manga that has started, looks promising, sci-fi and action, takes place in a futuristic Japan:


Science fiction action that begins with Boy meeting Gyaru!

And it references a present issue, uh.....

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I don't believe in this generational/racial/ethnic guilt thing that people are trying to push all over the world. Are all the old Axis Power nations supposed to grovel and beg for forgiveness for all eternity? WWII was a long time ago.
Yes, as long as samefags are (even nominally) in charge. West Germany and Italy formed new states and got new governments. Hirohito didn't even resign in favor of his kiddo.
 
I do but its more for Lupin Part V. Also they did this with Kill la KIll too


It's pretty hilarious that Adult Swim is supposed to be the segment aimed at an older audience on evenings but they are scared to show boobies or anything remotely sexual. Tons of gore and violence is fine though.
 
Japan has apologized for this over and over.
And then Japanese politicians started hanging out at Yasukuni Jinja to pay hommage to people, some of which are Class A war criminals, that have been hanged after WW2 for the shit they pulled. And they just so happen to do this at certain WW2 related dates.
Yeah, geez, I wonder why anyone would get mad at this.
Japan's attitude has always been "We're sorry, here's a bit of cash, now never speak of this again while I hang out at a shrine with my nationalist bros paying respect to fallen war criminals."

The Empire of Japan ended in 1945 and a new government was formed in 1952.
You might wanna read up on what the "reverse course" during US occupation was. TLDR:
The Government in 1952 was staffed to the brim with people that were originally purged out of politics due to their involvement to the militarism and their actions during the war.
Kishi Nobusuke was a top-tier war criminal and ended up being Prime Minister. If you think there was a big political shift in the late 40s and early 50s you're mistaken, the Japanese government remained just as conservative as they were before the war, oftentimes being represented by the same people.
The Zaibatsu were dissolved and replaced by corporations that just bought partial ownership of each other to reform themselves under a new name, so not even economically, there was much of a change. The US (under Dodge) worked hard towards smashing liberal movements and unions, that certainly didn't help.
 
I wish Japan picked up on CG animation. The Dragon Quest film and the Mewtwo remake both have this… uncanny look. It's just fucking creepy.
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It's going to take another decade of computer usage, I'm assuming, but I think Japan will find a way to get around it. They tend to use motion-capture because it's quicker, but they typically don't do it for film because they have actual budgets. I don't know about the Dragon Quest film, but the new Pokemon movie was a collab between OLM and Sprite Animation Studios in LA, which wasn't the first time they collaborated together, they also did Rudolf the Black Cat a couple years back.
 
It's going to take another decade of computer usage, I'm assuming, but I think Japan will find a way to get around it. They tend to use motion-capture because it's quicker, but they typically don't do it for film because they have actual budgets. I don't know about the Dragon Quest film, but the new Pokemon movie was a collab between OLM and Sprite Animation Studios in LA, which wasn't the first time they collaborated together, they also did Rudolf the Black Cat a couple years back.
I say it looks OK for Rudolf, but it meshes horribly with Pokemon and DQ because both prominently feature human characters who just don't work in that style. IIRC the same studio that worked on these films also worked on the 3DCG Doraemon film a while back, and it looked atrocious.

Also, the Japanese filming industry is dead. I don't
believe for a second those stiffs in suits would
greenlight a budget for better CGI.
 
I say it looks OK for Rudolf, but it meshes horribly with Pokemon and DQ because both prominently feature human characters who just don't work in that style. IIRC the same studio that worked on these films also worked on the 3DCG Doraemon film a while back, and it looked atrocious.

Haven't seen the film, but neither OLM nor Sprite worked on Stand By Me, it was Shin-Ei Animation and Shirogumi (Robot Communications might've just been a producer and not production, but I dunno). It looks nice for Rudolf not just because of more original models, but because of the CGI director, Motonori Sakakibara, the same man behind Final Fantasy: Spirits Within, which visually still holds up nicely and still is historic to animation. Some people have said the look of the human characters grew on them since it's better seeing them in motion than in still-shots, but yeah, they do still look a little off. They could've toned down the eyes, or even fixed the noses, but from what I can tell, everything is otherwise spot-on. The gorgeous backgrounds in general I think is testament to how far CGI has come, and that Japanese animation does have a future in CGI, but there needs to be reformation in the workforce in order for that to become much more commonplace. Otherwise, animation studios will just continue to outsource to places like Korea for that Nickelodeon-tier CGI, and that's the most-likely outcome.

Also, the Japanese filming industry is dead. I don't believe for a second those stiffs in suits would greenlight a budget for better CGI.

Sure, I'll take your word for it, but I think studios like Sola Digital Arts, Digital Frontier and Marza Animation Planet are our future for good CGI anime films. Although Toei can make really nice-looking CGi films if Captain Herlock is anything to go by, but that may have been thanks to Marza.
 
Haven't seen the film, but neither OLM nor Sprite worked on Stand By Me, it was Shin-Ei Animation and Shirogumi (Robot Communications might've just been a producer and not production, but I dunno). It looks nice for Rudolf not just because of more original models, but because of the CGI director, Motonori Sakakibara, the same man behind Final Fantasy: Spirits Within, which visually still holds up nicely and still is historic to animation. Some people have said the look of the human characters grew on them since it's better seeing them in motion than in still-shots, but yeah, they do still look a little off. They could've toned down the eyes, or even fixed the noses, but from what I can tell, everything is otherwise spot-on. The gorgeous backgrounds in general I think is testament to how far CGI has come, and that Japanese animation does have a future in CGI, but there needs to be reformation in the workforce in order for that to become much more commonplace. Otherwise, animation studios will just continue to outsource to places like Korea for that Nickelodeon-tier CGI, and that's the most-likely outcome.
My mistake. It wasn't the same studio, but the same director (who basically ruined both scenarios). Thanks for the correction.
Sure, I'll take your word for it, but I think studios like Sola Digital Arts, Digital Frontier and Marza Animation Planet are our future for good CGI anime films. Although Toei can make really nice-looking CGi films if Captain Herlock is anything to go by, but that may have been thanks to Marza.
I know good cgi anime can be made, but the ones with shoddily done work get more attention and rerenue because of the source material. Same with live action adaptations. Which is why I can't shake off my pessimism.
At least the new Lupin III movie looks nice.
That fucker Takashi Yamazaki is directing it. I may as well bury the hurdle underground but he'll somehow slide under it, I'm sure.
 
And then Japanese politicians started hanging out at Yasukuni Jinja to pay hommage[sic] to people, some of which are Class A war criminals, that have been hanged after WW2 for the shit they pulled. And they just so happen to do this at certain WW2 related dates.
Yeah, geez, I wonder why anyone would get mad at this.
Japan's attitude has always been "We're sorry, here's a bit of cash, now never speak of this again while I hang out at a shrine with my nationalist bros paying respect to fallen war criminals."
This is typical propaganda. It is not a shrine to war criminals. It is a shrine to house the souls of fallen soldiers. There are no remains there. Do you actually believe there are some "souls" of WWII war criminals floating around there? I'm not sure what you'd want Japan to do about that, call the Ghostbusters?
 
This is typical propaganda. It is not a shrine to war criminals.
This is typical nonsense. You argue against points I never made.
Over the years following the war, Class A, B and C war criminals sentenced by the Tokyo Tribunal (which in itself was an utter shitshow that went out of its way to not dig too deep while also keeping all blame away from the Emperor as far as possible) were enshrined in Yasukuni Jinja.

It is a shrine to some soldiers dying in service of the Emperor -and- it is a shrine where war criminals have been enshrined. The funny thing that you seem to be ignorant of: People say that all soldiers that die in service get automatically enshrined (ie: it is a logical conclusion to enshrine everybody), but that was not the case prior to WW2: You'd have to die as a direct result of a battle to be eligible and the list would then be presented to the emperor who could turn individuals down if he felt like it. Strangely, war criminals were able to circumferent these 2 prerequisites after the war, however the Ministry of Health and Welfare (after supplying all information the shrine needed to enshrine these people) requested that Yasukuni not enshrine too many at a time to avoid public outcries. And then Japanese politicians just so happened to go there on important dates pertaining to WW2 and other nationalistic events . . . with their hard-right nationalist pals. Yeah, I bet we'd need our best decoders to crack this one.
Are you denying that war criminals have been enshrined and that it has been a political hotbed for exactly that reason - specifically due to the governmental involvement of said enshrinement?
Never mind that Prime Ministers, such as Nakasone, have violated the Japanese constitution by making their visits "official", by using public funds to make offerings or signing with their full title, which utterly contradicts the usual (whiny) excuse of "The politician is making a private visit".

Emperor Hirohito himself refused to visit Yasukuni over the enshrinement of Class A war criminals, I bet he was just a propaganda-controlled Japan-hater as well? :story:
That's not even digging into the bullshit that's the Yushukan Museum, that portrays Japan as pure victim of foreign aggression before and during the Pacific War, the utter nonsense it writes about Japanese actions during WW2 or how it glorifies said war criminals.
 
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This is typical nonsense. You argue against points I never made.
I really don't see any points from you other than JAP MAN BAD. Nobody gives a shit about Yasukuni other than a bunch of butt-hurt Koreans and CCP stooges. Critics act like Hirohito and Tojo built this in the 40s, when it was really built in the Meiji era. Who cares about Shinto "enshrinement", mumbo jumbo, that happened 70 years ago at that? And nobody cares about some rando museum somewhere. Most Japanese people have never been to these places.
Politicians and civilians are allowed to practice their religion, even if you don't agree with it. And I'm sure many people visit that shrine just to piss off the left-wing loons that can't stop obsessing over it.

I'm sure you can find Confederate Museums in the US in South that portray the Yankees as evil aggressors and the Confederates as the victims. Am I supposed to get upset about that? Should we label America as a "bad" country that needs to apologize? Should the US apologize for Hiroshima and Nagasaki then? I suppose you support slave reparations for black Americans? Because it's the exact same SJW line of thinking that I can't stand.

Finally, let's be real about war crimes tribunals. These things are completely one-sided and are really just the victors punishing the vanquished. Because how many Allied war criminals were executed? Even though these things were happening:
 
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