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[sasazuka]

On the subject of magic and world-building, but with a completely different type of series than Goblin Slayer, the Flying Witch manga has gone into quite a bit of detail with the "nine types" of magic when the whole cast travels to Aoyama Prefecture's Shimokita Peninsula so that Makoto Kowata can undergo testing to find out what kind of witch she is.

Spoiler: Flying Witch chapter 44 spoiler

It turns out that Makoto is a rare "Dark Witch", which isn't remotely what it sounds like. It just means that she has a talent for creating new spells. I don't know how that qualifies as "Dark" but I'm not mangaka Chihiro Ishizuka.

Chihiro Ishizuka tends to stick to a schedule that's roughly "two chapters every three months" (she writes long chapters, so that's not so bad), but there's now just about enough manga source material to make a second Flying Witch anime season, assuming it'll be the same as the first one with 12 episodes each adapting 2 chapters of the manga. However, I'm not sure if the first season sold well enough for there to even be a second anime season.

 

[A single cheeto]

Natsume Yuujinchou is one of my all time favorite manga/animes. The bittersweetness of the some of the yokai's lives/problems and the resolutions really resound with me.

 

[Bambi Sammich]

Interesting video, but the very first point he makes is... wrong. I mean, not to sound like a GS fanboy or anything, but he's harping on rookie adventurers being send to their doom without anyone telling them "for no reason", though the Manga makes a big point of explaining that the Receptionist girl is troubled by sending out rookies to quests that no other person would take since she knows the people will most likely get killed or badly injured, however if they don't go, noone else will. And it makes a big point out of explaining that most adventurers underestimate Goblins cause they only ever beat up single scout Goblins, who are chased off or killed rather easily. Said people underestimate the Goblins, go in unprepared and get swarmed by dozens of Goblins that they can't defend against. And it is also said that some groups prevail and manage to kill the Goblins, so it's not a 100% sure thing that the rookies die . . .
And he harps on how it makes no sense that people on one hand think Goblins aren't a big deal but area large threat to adventurers on the other hand. Again, it is explained with the goblin-scout-thing and it is said that most high ranking adventurers ignore Goblin quests cause they are paid very poorly - mostly cause the ones asking for help come from tiny villages, hamlets or even just farms.
I'm only harping on this myself, cause he makes a major point out of this to criticise the world building in GS, even though it is explained in the manga and anime.

This is just the first 5 minutes and it just goes on like this. An interpretation based on a half-truth that is then inflated to explain why GS is bad and you should feel bad for liking it.

Yeah, the world building is very basic in GS, I would never compare it to the likes of Lodoss or even Slayers, but the few things that are there don't need to be downtalked like this.

That makes no sense as this problem has been going on since "time immemorial" Meaning Goblins have been a problem since the very beginning of human history. If this was a new problem then sure, it'd be like a "the zombie apocalypse started last year and I'm still figuring things out" kind of deal. But time immemorial? So like what...hundreds...perhaps thousands of years? And these dumb fucks still haven't figured out how to handle goblins? The ""lvl 1"" monsters of this world? Then they all deserve to die. And that is me being generous. Thats looking at this with the mindset that human beings are all pants on head stupid. Realistically humans, elves, dwarves, lizard people etc, with all the available science and magic at their disposal, would have figured out how to eradicate goblins after the first few deaths. There is no acceptable reason for people to just 'ignore' goblins.

The video also points out that these people have mentors and teachers and family who adventure. Did these kids never get any kind of training from them?
Did no one say "by the way goblins can use tunnels to sneak up behind you." If every adventurer starts as a porcelain and at some point has to fight goblins, survived and rose up the ranks, yet none of them thought it was a good idea to pass on their "how to beat goblins" knowledge on to their own children...well then they're stupid. The internal logic of Goblin Slayer is stupid.

he's harping on rookie adventurers being send to their doom without anyone telling them "for no reason", though the Manga makes a big point of explaining that the Receptionist girl is troubled by sending out rookies to quests that no other person would take since she knows the people will most likely get killed or badly injured, however if they don't go, noone else will.

This doesn't explain anything. The vid asks why they send them out to die for no reason.
Your response is "because they send them out to die for no reason".
There is literally no reason to do things the way this world does it.


They do it strictly for money and fame. No one is forcing it on them at all.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

I wonder why there is no thread about the Myanimelist community on kiwifarms, the subforum to discuss goblin slayer has been giving some notable examples of autism.

I've brought it up a few times, but honestly, it's such a large clusterfuck of cancerous autism that I don't wish it upon anyone to go dumpster diving. It probably would've helped to have gotten it done a few years ago or so 'cause then the shitstorm that happened with DeNA shutting off the API only to take down the whole site for a couple of months to "update its security" this year could've brought some entertainment.

Besides, the anime community could just be one megathread to showcase MAL, ANN, Crunchyroll, and a few others, but again, it's all cancerous. There's no hazmat suit available for the job.

EDIT:

On the subject of magic and world-building, but with a completely different type of series than Goblin Slayer, the Flying Witch manga has gone into quite a bit of detail with the "nine types" of magic when the whole cast travels to Aoyama Prefecture's Shimokita Peninsula so that Makoto Kowata can undergo testing to find out what kind of witch she is.

Spoiler: Flying Witch chapter 44 spoiler

It turns out that Makoto is a rare "Dark Witch", which isn't remotely what it sounds like. It just means that she has a talent for creating new spells. I don't know how that qualifies as "Dark" but I'm not mangaka Chihiro Ishizuka.

Chihiro Ishizuka tends to stick to a schedule that's roughly "two chapters every three months" (she writes long chapters, so that's not so bad), but there's now just about enough manga source material to make a second Flying Witch anime season, assuming it'll be the same as the first one with 12 episodes each adapting 2 chapters of the manga. However, I'm not sure if the first season sold well enough for there to even be a second anime season.

The anime was so boring to me that I'm honestly surprised the manga has more going for it than what was shown in the anime. Maybe I should give it a second chance, but just with the manga instead.

 

[Cheetahman]

NPC meme aside, the canon reason is probably something like even if she were to refuse them, those kids would go anyway because that's what dumbass kids would do.

That doesn't solve the problem of the mass killing of children, although I've also heard an ass-covering theory about how the world can be perpetually teetering on collapse despite being a long term problem.
The reason why the elf can be 2000 years old while knowing nothing about the world, or why an infinite number of new parties can go into caves without care from the guild, is because this is a constructed D&D campaign where the (incomplete) worldbuilding is done first and the meta-reasoning is handled later. The elf is 2000 years old, but hasn't lived for 2000 years, for the same reason you don't start every game in the womb, you start as a teen or adult and the history is filled in later if it isn't addressed at all.

At least, it kind of made sense when I read it at like 2 AM, but now that I reread it it sounds kind of horseshit.

 

[sasazuka]

The anime was so boring to me that I'm honestly surprised the manga has more going for it than what was shown in the anime. Maybe I should give it a second chance, but just with the manga instead.

The first season of the Flying Witch anime is pretty much the first 20 or so chapters of the manga, panel for panel, with a few chapters shuffled around for pacing. I enjoyed it but I also enjoy Non Non Biyori, another laid-back series with a pastoral theme where nothing "big" ever happens. Flying Witch is really a manga that is as much about the area where it takes place (the town of Hirosaki in western Aomori Prefecture and the rural environs surround it), nature, and farming as it is about magic.

The manga beyond the point where the anime left off introduces more background information about the witching world and some more new witch and harbinger characters. You begin to get more of a sense of the hierarchy in chapter 22 where a VIP witch comes to check up on Makoto's progress, after which she begins to get magical errands.

 

[Dunsparce]

NPC meme aside, the canon reason is probably something like even if she were to refuse them, those kids would go anyway because that's what dumbass kids would do.

That doesn't solve the problem of the mass killing of children, although I've also heard an ass-covering theory about how the world can be perpetually teetering on collapse despite being a long term problem.
The reason why the elf can be 2000 years old while knowing nothing about the world, or why an infinite number of new parties can go into caves without care from the guild, is because this is a constructed D&D campaign where the (incomplete) worldbuilding is done first and the meta-reasoning is handled later. The elf is 2000 years old, but hasn't lived for 2000 years, for the same reason you don't start every game in the womb, you start as a teen or adult and the history is filled in later if it isn't addressed at all.

At least, it kind of made sense when I read it at like 2 AM, but now that I reread it it sounds kind of horseshit.

Spoiler

In the novels, the world is revealed to be basically be a tabletop game played between two gods, Truth and Illusion. Truth is basically an Asshole DM that usually adds more monsters when things look hopeful, while Illusion is a DM that believes that a balanced adventure with decent treasure for people to find is better. Even with Truth adding monsters and Illusion giving perks to adventurers, the direct actions of the mortals is done via dice roll, which has no bias(This dice is quite a bit more literal than one would normally think in a fantasy novel). There are only two mortals that do not play by the rules. The first is the Hero, a young girl that basically plays with heavily loaded dice and has high stats in every area. She, and as a result of her influence her party members, seem to always get their way, and all come out of encounters with great evils completely unscathed. The second person is the Goblin Slayer. He is completely unremarkable in every stat area, and normally would be dismissed as a minor character in the grand scheme of things. However he is so paranoid and overly prepared that he doesn't roll the dice at all. All of his actions, both his successes and his failures, are all truly his own and are uninfluenced by the gods, so he is considered a wild card of sorts. He is still not considered that important overall, just an oddity, especially since he can unintentionally change the fates of those that roll the die(Priestess was originally fated to die in a TPK), which usually pleases Illusion and angers Truth.

 

[sasazuka]

So, in other words, in Goblin Slayer, the gods may roll the dice, their minds as cold as ice, and someone way down here loses someone dear?

Spoiler: The winner takes it all, the loser has to fall.

(It's simple and it's plain, why should I complain?)

 

[Black Waltz]

I just watched the first 3 episodes of goblin slayer, it was ok. Kinda goofy tbh

 

[Kari Kamiya]

I enjoyed it but I also enjoy Non Non Biyori, another laid-back series with a pastoral theme where nothing "big" ever happens. Flying Witch is really a manga that is as much about the area where it takes place (the town of Hirosaki in western Aomori Prefecture and the rural environs surround it), nature, and farming as it is about magic.

I'm SOL trash and I fucking adore Non Non Biyori, but I really couldn't get into the Flying Witch anime. A lot of people were praising it, and it confused the hell out of me. Guess I was expecting more from a show about witches, like cool, so we get to see how witches produce their ingredients for their spells, but there otherwise was hardly any spells going on at the same time. Honestly, the only thing at this point that I remember from the anime is the mandrake, but only snippets.

The manga beyond the point where the anime left off introduces more background information about the witching world and some more new witch and harbinger characters. You begin to get more of a sense of the hierarchy in chapter 22 where a VIP witch comes to check up on Makoto's progress, after which she begins to get magical errands.

So it sounds like the anime got cut off at a bad point, then. Had it gone on a couple more episodes, it'd have introduced that. Seriously, some anime just aren't meant to be one-cour.

 

[Bambi Sammich]

NPC meme aside, the canon reason is probably something like even if she were to refuse them, those kids would go anyway because that's what dumbass kids would do.

That doesn't solve the problem of the mass killing of children, although I've also heard an ass-covering theory about how the world can be perpetually teetering on collapse despite being a long term problem.
The reason why the elf can be 2000 years old while knowing nothing about the world, or why an infinite number of new parties can go into caves without care from the guild, is because this is a constructed D&D campaign where the (incomplete) worldbuilding is done first and the meta-reasoning is handled later. The elf is 2000 years old, but hasn't lived for 2000 years, for the same reason you don't start every game in the womb, you start as a teen or adult and the history is filled in later if it isn't addressed at all.

At least, it kind of made sense when I read it at like 2 AM, but now that I reread it it sounds kind of horseshit.

1. You shouldn't make an anime based off some janky half assed DnD campaign...ever
2. The only way this elf could h ave been alive for 2000 years and not know that goblins rape elves is if she lived an incredibly sheltered life. Or the writing is just bollocks. What has she been doing for 2000 years? Fingering herself?
3. Espeically when you take into effect that she SAID "my home isn't far from here" when they found the raped elf woman.
4. If the world is teetering on destruction why are there old guys selling ice cream , people ignoring the possibility of monsters living under their city even when there were corpses of mutilated women found in the streets, and a goblin was actually baited out and captured.
5. If the world is actually teetering on destruction why is monster hunting relegated to quests...for money...and fame?
6. Why does pope titty jesus lady do nothing....?

Spoiler

In the novels, the world is revealed to be basically be a tabletop game played between two gods, Truth and Illusion. Truth is basically an Asshole DM that usually adds more monsters when things look hopeful, while Illusion is a DM that believes that a balanced adventure with decent treasure for people to find is better. Even with Truth adding monsters and Illusion giving perks to adventurers, the direct actions of the mortals is done via dice roll, which has no bias(This dice is quite a bit more literal than one would normally think in a fantasy novel). There are only two mortals that do not play by the rules. The first is the Hero, a young girl that basically plays with heavily loaded dice and has high stats in every area. She, and as a result of her influence her party members, seem to always get their way, and all come out of encounters with great evils completely unscathed. The second person is the Goblin Slayer. He is completely unremarkable in every stat area, and normally would be dismissed as a minor character in the grand scheme of things. However he is so paranoid and overly prepared that he doesn't roll the dice at all. All of his actions, both his successes and his failures, are all truly his own and are uninfluenced by the gods, so he is considered a wild card of sorts. He is still not considered that important overall, just an oddity, especially since he can unintentionally change the fates of those that roll the die(Priestess was originally fated to die in a TPK), which usually pleases Illusion and angers Truth.

Ooooh so the explanation for shitty writing is that its a half assed DnD campaign. Now it makes sense. You can get away with anything with a "God wills" excuse.

I guess the idea is Slayer leaves absolutely nothing to chance but that still doesn't excuse everyone else being pants on head idiots. You don't roll a dice to decide whether or not to warn people that rapist monsters are in the area I guess. How is Goblin Slayer able to not have dice rolled on him? If nobody is sentient because this is all a "game", how can he function at all without dice? Dice rolls are necessary for actions, right?

This means the whole "don't be unprepared" meme is wrong. You can't be prepared if everything is decided by dice rolls. Like if that's the case it doesn't matter what weapon you bring to any location. If there are actual dice there's a set possibility of any action failing or succeeding no matter what you do.

If women are more likely to forgive a murdering rapist do all women have a negative modifier to intelligence?

 

[IdaRita]

*silly questions mode*
OK, I don't know much about that Goblin Slayer, but googled it and found out there is a whole genre of animes about characters being transported into RPG fantasy worlds, often inspired by DnD. Does it make Dungeons and Dragons cartoon (animated by Toei) orginal "isekai" anime?

 

[BeanBidan]

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I love the fact he just wants to kill goblins. Why do people make such a fuss about justifiable genocide?

Also I'd love to read more manga, but mechas have always been better as anime due to being action oriented that it's just not as explosive in manga form, it's way more enjoyable as anime and always will be. I enjoy reading Ranma 1/2, Steins;Gate and Welcome to the NHK. Oyasumi PunPun is great too.

 

[Bambi Sammich]

I love the fact he just wants to kill goblins. Why do people make such a fuss about justifiable genocide?
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Only idiots try to compare killing fictional monsters to anything regarding "real life genocide" Its one reason why I feel people cling to this anime and call it "good" just to be contrarian since it ruffled some sjw's feathers. "Oh man this show pissed off SJWs so it must be the best anime ever."

The only good thing about the Goblin Slayer story is his character design.

 

[Nazi vegeta]

*silly questions mode*
OK, I don't know much about that Goblin Slayer, but googled it and found out there is a whole genre of animes about characters being transported into RPG fantasy worlds, often inspired by DnD. Does it make Dungeons and Dragons cartoon (animated by Toei) orginal "isekai" anime?

usually the protagonists in this kind of stories are guys who died in our world and then get re-incarnated in this fantasy rpg world. That's what constitutes an isekai, I think. Otherwise it's just regular fantasy.

 

[BeanBidan]

Only idiots try to compare killing fictional monsters to anything regarding "real life genocide" Its one reason why I feel people cling to this anime and call it "good" just to be contrarian since it ruffled some sjw's feathers. "Oh man this show pissed off SJWs so it must be the best anime ever."

The only good thing about the Goblin Slayer story is his character design.

I like his design (he reminds me of the guy on the DS2 cover) and that he kills goblins. Also guild girl is best.

Saying its the best though is a stretch, I agree. personally I prefer Ninja Scroll, Lupin III red jacket series, Gundam UC series (other mechs) I also see Urusei Yatsura as better tbqh.

 

[Steamboat_Bill]

*silly questions mode*
OK, I don't know much about that Goblin Slayer, but googled it and found out there is a whole genre of animes about characters being transported into RPG fantasy worlds, often inspired by DnD. Does it make Dungeons and Dragons cartoon (animated by Toei) orginal "isekai" anime?

No.

 

[Dunsparce]

I like his design (he reminds me of the guy on the DS2 cover) and that he kills goblins. Also guild girl is best.

Goblin Slayer's Design is actually based on the Restless Armor enemy from Dragon Quest

Spoiler

He is often compared to one by his friends and in one of the Light Novels they have art of him with the same pose and body proportions of this art right here.

In fact almost all of the characters in the series have their physical appearances and/or character concept heavily based on other characters from various other works of the Fantasy genre(both Japanese and Western, from a mixture of movies, books, anime, videogames, ect.). They even have a Biblo clone(A hobbit with an invisibility ring known as Bandit, even uses some of the riddles from the original Hobbit book)

 

[Trilby]

Noticed a streaming company has uploaded some of the shorts from Robot Carnival on YouTube. I thought it was high time to present a few of these classics bits just so people can see why we miss this!

People don't talk much about this one, but I loved it!

 

[Done]

@Kari Kamiya I don't know, the reasons you stated actually make me want an Anime fans thread even more. Especially the part about filling in retarded internet history, that seems right up our alley.

Plus, from experience, if you make a thread, you don't have to keep dumpster diving all the time, my r/LegalAdvice thread is pretty much self-sustaining, you just have to provide a sort of map for people to hunt for content, provide a few examples and your thread's a go!