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Mysterious Girlfriend X said:
Some people think that Madoka is what killed the magical girl genre, but it was actually Pretty Cure when it got so damn popular that nobody wanted to bother competing with it.
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The people who think Madoka killed the magical girl genre only ever watched Madoka and read a Wikipedia article on everything else. It's understandable, but it isn't true. It would be like saying Conan killed mystery anime because it's been running for 20+ years and nothing else has come close to being as popular. Thinking about it now, it's rare you see the english speaking side of the internet talk about magical girl shows that aren't Sailor Moon or Madoka. I'm surprised Precure even got mentioned here. Pierrot has LuluttoLilly airing right now, Magilumiere is getting a season 2, Princess Orchestra finished this year as well, so new shows are being made but the truth is there isnt really any reason to care about that type of show since they are for actual kids/girls and arent interesting for males/adults compared to shonenslop like JJK or Chainsaw.

I don't want to Google how old Splash Star precure is but thats the last one I remember actually watching.
 
TommyHeavenly6 said:
Jesus fucking christ.
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As for the rest of your statement I can't find anything to disagree with you on. It makes perfect sense, especially since the magical girl shows I've seen really do seem like they're made for eight year old girls and thus probably wouldn't see a high demand in the western otaku sphere.
 
TommyHeavenly6 said:
The people who think Madoka killed the magical girl genre only ever watched Madoka and read a Wikipedia article on everything else. It's understandable, but it isn't true. It would be like saying Conan killed mystery anime because it's been running for 20+ years and nothing else has come close to being as popular. Thinking about it now, it's rare you see the english speaking side of the internet talk about magical girl shows that aren't Sailor Moon or Madoka. I'm surprised Precure even got mentioned here. Pierrot has LuluttoLilly airing right now, Magilumiere is getting a season 2, Princess Orchestra finished this year as well, so new shows are being made but the truth is there isnt really any reason to care about that type of show since they are for actual kids/girls and arent interesting for males/adults compared to shonenslop like JJK or Chainsaw.

I don't want to Google how old Splash Star precure is but thats the last one I remember actually watching.
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(Somewhat) Normal anime watchers only care for Magical Girl anime if it has action or is dark/subversive. Madoka itself created a small burst of shows, but most were depressive grimderp shit.
Kari Kamiya said:
Also a lot of newer animators in the last several years just haven't built up the experience proper. Either they're still doing grunt work, they're burning out too quickly, they literally have no still life experience (i.e. not drawing realism on the regular) or the veterans of the industry just haven't been bothered to train them.
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The sad fact of the matter is old anime looked good primarily because they could hire South/North Korean sweatshops to draw on the cheap, and were economically strong enough to return heavy investments.
 
wtfNeedSignUp said:
The sad fact of the matter is old anime looked good primarily because they could hire South/North Korean sweatshops to draw on the cheap
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I think they only started outsourcing to Korea in the '90s due to strained relations, I believe they outsourced to China for in-betweens and clean up. There was an instructor in my college who put down being an animator of Goku for DBZ on his credentials although he was Chinese (I didn't have his class, was something I read on the bulletin next to his classroom).
 
Kari Kamiya said:
I think they only started outsourcing to Korea in the '90s due to strained relations, I believe they outsourced to China for in-betweens and clean up. There was an instructor in my college who put down being an animator of Goku for DBZ on his credentials although he was Chinese (I didn't have his class, was something I read on the bulletin next to his classroom).
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Having any anime show the process of drawing anime as Japanese only affair is lying through its teeth (unless its a massive production).

I think even keyframes are not handled by Japanese anymore, there was some chink American some months ago that said he worked on JJK key frames.
 
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