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wtfNeedSignUp said:
It's just that modern anime is boring, there is no uniqueness anymore, just slop to go to from one to the next. Compare with 20 years ago:
Or even 10 years ago:
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Is it also that the bad anime titles in modern times don't stand out, and are only just mediocre? Ex-Arm being released 4 years ago makes it feel old somehow, and it still stands out compared to the other sucky titles today. King's Game from 2017 still stands out with how bad it was, and Glasslip from 2014 still stands out as being "Nothing Happens: The Animation". Even dogshit OVAs in the past like Mars of Destruction and Psychic Wars still stand out more than modern day sucky titles.
 
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wtfNeedSignUp said:
It's just that modern anime is boring, there is no uniqueness anymore, just slop to go to from one to the next. Compare with 20 years ago:
Or even 10 years ago:
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I've wanted to get back into Digimon for ages and the new game looks good, but then the trailer dropped and I was like.. wait, Digimon is literally any other anime now. Lolis and female women with big tits for monsters. Pokemon isn't exactly unique but it has that angle to it. Digimon is just.. fucking slop.

I still get the urge to read manga but every time I reinstall a reader, I see the exact same mangas as 5 years ago. With between 0 and 100 new chapters and they'll just never conclude.
 
⋖ cørdion ⋗ said:
Digimon is literally any other anime now. Lolis and female women with big tits for monsters
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It has always had those things it's nothing new. Digimon still releases some combination of sexy women, weird monsters, robots, and dudes in armor.
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There is only one thing I don't miss from the 00s and am kinda glad modern anime doesn't do anymore.
Full filler arcs are pretty much dead. Sure you might have a few anime original scenes or episodes too pad out run time, but you won't see anything like Naruto's 100 filler episodes between the end of Sasuke rescue arc and the start of Shippuden, or bleach have two fillers right in the middle of the Arrancar arc.
I can imagine how much more annoying shows like mha or jjk would of been if they had a filler arc instead of taking a break between seasons where there fight some random jackass for 24-36 episodes and either be completely detached from the main story or change it in minor ways (the bounts from bleach are a good example of both, the things that happened in the arc itself has no effect on the rest of the series, but the 3 Modified Souls stayed around for the rest of the anime), or how much it would wreck the world building of shows like Frieren they made a filler arc where Stark had to go through a warrior exam because they made Frieren and Fern go through one to continue north.
 
vern said:
There is only one thing I don't miss from the 00s and am kinda glad modern anime doesn't do anymore.
Full filler arcs are pretty much dead. Sure you might have a few anime original scenes or episodes too pad out run time, but you won't see anything like Naruto's 100 filler episodes between the end of Sasuke rescue arc and the start of Shippuden, or bleach have two fillers right in the middle of the Arrancar arc.
I can imagine how much more annoying shows like mha or jjk would of been if they had a filler arc instead of taking a break between seasons where there fight some random jackass for 24-36 episodes and either be completely detached from the main story or change it in minor ways (the bounts from bleach are a good example of both, the things that happened in the arc itself has no effect on the rest of the series, but the 3 Modified Souls stayed around for the rest of the anime), or how much it would wreck the world building of shows like Frieren they made a filler arc where Stark had to go through a warrior exam because they made Frieren and Fern go through one to continue north.
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I really disagree, with fillers at most you can just not watch them. And some fillers can be fun and show off side characters, I still remember some of Naruto ones.

One of the big issues of the new shonen is that they don't have filler to make you give a shit about the extended cast, so any dramatic moment gets wasted, and it feels like the main characters skyrockets in ability even worse than usual shonen.
 
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It is now the birthday of these VA

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They each voiced a well known character
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Kenjiro Tsuda just had a memorable guest appearance this week on episode 10 of Apocalypse Hotel as Walmart Great Value brand Greedo #2, a Zenigata-esque space detective hot on the trail of Walmart Great Value Brand Greedo #1, a "serial bomber psycho terrorist bastard" fugitive hiding out on Earth in the Gingarou Hotel. Both Walmart Great Value Brand Greedos each die within a day of arriving of an unknown cause, seemingly something to do with a pathogen in the atmosphere or an allergic reaction to something or someone in the hotel.
 
A.P. Hill said:
Congratulations Reiji Miyajima, you've managed to successfully write a story where every character is an asshole completely unintentionally, and the supposedly vile, manipulative villain is actually the most reasonable person in the entire series because she knows she's terrible and isn't afraid to call everyone else on their bullshit. Reiji, I hope your wife leaves you over your obsession with your cartoon waifu you created.
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The 4chan mald is mostly just bait and gotchas for guys who think dropping cash entitles them to sex from what I’ve read, but the Reddit hugbox is pure sadness and delusion.
Imagine investing so much of your time in a cuckold's story, only for him to be… a cuck all along, and now you’re mad the story naturally devolved into his fetish.
:story:

Also this screenshot making the rounds, the dad dropping some “philosophical” quote, as if it’s anything but the most pure and pathetic cope a low IQ wage slave simpleton could dredge up, after we know his son blew $250k on a whore, chef’s kiss.
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I'll agree with the others, I might pick it up from the last chapter, just to see how deep the barrel goes and how pathetic we devolve into.

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Mister Baranavichy said:
The 4chan mald is mostly just bait and gotchas for guys who think dropping cash entitles them to sex from what I’ve read, but the Reddit hugbox is pure sadness and delusion.
Imagine investing so much of your time in a cuckold's story, only for him to be… a cuck all along, and now you’re mad the story naturally devolved into his fetish.
:story:

Also this screenshot making the rounds, the dad dropping some “philosophical” quote, as if it’s anything but the most pure and pathetic cope a low IQ wage slave simpleton could dredge up, after we know his son blew $250k on a whore, chef’s kiss.
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I'll agree with the others, I might pick it up from the last chapter, just to see how deep the barrel goes and how pathetic we devolve into.

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Is the manga even ending soon? It could all be the usual case of last act fake breakup.
 
sasazuka said:
Kenjiro Tsuda just had a memorable guest appearance this week on episode 10 of Apocalypse Hotel as Walmart Great Value brand Greedo #2, a Zenigata-esque space detective hot on the trail of Walmart Great Value Brand Greedo #1, a "serial bomber psycho terrorist bastard" fugitive hiding out on Earth in the Gingarou Hotel.
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I think you know it was Tamako. Such horror.
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Kari Kamiya said:
Tape-trading circles were exactly how these college-aged fans got their anime fix. Why not make it a movie night with your drinking/weed buddies?
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the main way fansubs were distributed is snail mail rings coordinated on usenet. Back in the '90s I never thought a thing about sharing my mailing address with a bunch of freaks and weirdos on the internet. The original copy would get mailed out and the recipient would make a copy for himself and forward the original to the next guy, and so on and so forth until the end of time for every copy. Popular series were things like Shin Mapletown Monogatari and Hime Chan's Ribbon until Evangelion came along
 
Spring 2005 had so much good shit it was hard to choose what to watch first.

But I do agree with the death of fillers: you definitely don't need fillers do develop side characters, you just need to be a decent writer - something very difficult for shonen authors, it seems.
 
wtfNeedSignUp said:
I really disagree, with fillers at most you can just not watch them. And some fillers can be fun and show off side characters, I still remember some of Naruto ones.

One of the big issues of the new shonen is that they don't have filler to make you give a shit about the extended cast, so any dramatic moment gets wasted, and it feels like the main characters skyrockets in ability even worse than usual shonen.
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The problem with that is filler arcs that actually used the extended cast where few and far between, the usual song and dance was to introduce a new set of anime original villains to beat up the MC a bit, introduce some new anime original allies to develop in place of the extended cast, and since they needed to maintain the status quo somewhat the way they usually beat the villains was punch them harder and the new allies they made are never spoken about again at best, directly contradict future events in the manga at worst.
In hindsight yes you can skip them, but if you where one watching them weekly you would either have to slog through it or dip out and pray that this filler wasn't the kind that significantly changes the rest story
ala FMA 03 (Father was already introduced long before they decided to make Dante the main villain, but because they where adding small little filler episodes even at the very beginning, they where stuck in an anime original plotline for the last 20 or so episodes).
In hindsight yes you can skip them, but if you where one watching them weekly you would either have to slog through it or dip out and pray that this filler wasn't the kind that significantly changes the rest story

I think a good example what modern filler are would look like is if the cut up and stretched all the mha movies into 10-12 episodes and shove it into the tv series
 
It's crazy to think of how much actual filler there used to be and now people are calling anything not related to the main plot filler these days. It's like someone who thinks you're supposed to jump straight into sex without foreplay. It just turns out rushed, messy, and a poor shadow of what it could have been.
 
On one hand, most filler arcs were garbage. On the other hand, it is kind of interesting to see what the anime writers would cook up for an original plot and sometimes they could at least be alright and sort of memorable, like the Yu-Gi-Oh and DBZ filler arcs, or a couple of the Bleach ones.

Of course, dropping filler arcs and the whole indefinitely running structure in general in favor a spread out seasons has been beneficial for the quality of these anime as a whole. Not so much because of the lack of the filler arcs themselves, but because the animators get a break and can put more time and effort into the canon material, plus the season structure means they don't need to pad out the manga arcs with smaller filler scenes, which the bigger problem with filler that kills pacing. You can skip filler arcs if you want, you can't do much about the animation studio taking what could be 1 episode of material and stretching it out to 3 episodes. See later One Piece for the worst example of this where they'd sometimes adapt as little as like 10 pages of manga into a 25 minute episode.

The season structure also means you're unlikely to get those weird situations were a long-runner gets cancelled for some reason and the final arc never gets adapted, like Rurouni Kenshin, or suddenly gets adapted many years later as a stand-alone season, like Bleach or Inuyasha.

vern said:
ala FMA 03 (Father was already introduced long before they decided to make Dante the main villain, but because they where adding small little filler episodes even at the very beginning, they where stuck in an anime original plotline for the last 20 or so episodes).
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To be fair, I think that's a different situation because the anime was already set from the start to only be 50 episodes, rather than an indefinite run. It wasn't so much they came up with filler that forced them to change the plot later, and more that they knew they couldn't reach any satisfying end with the material and timeframe they had to work with, so they decided to just make an AU story that only loosely follows the manga plot really early on. IIRC, the manga author even encouraged them to do this.

Kind of like the Hellsing TV anime, which was 13 episodes at a point where there wasn't much manga yet and no good place you could stop, so they just loosely adapted the first few chapters and then changed rails into an entirely original plot.
 
vern said:
The problem with that is filler arcs that actually used the extended cast where few and far between, the usual song and dance was to introduce a new set of anime original villains to beat up the MC a bit, introduce some new anime original allies to develop in place of the extended cast, and since they needed to maintain the status quo somewhat the way they usually beat the villains was punch them harder and the new allies they made are never spoken about again at best, directly contradict future events in the manga at worst.
In hindsight yes you can skip them, but if you where one watching them weekly you would either have to slog through it or dip out and pray that this filler wasn't the kind that significantly changes the rest story
ala FMA 03 (Father was already introduced long before they decided to make Dante the main villain, but because they where adding small little filler episodes even at the very beginning, they where stuck in an anime original plotline for the last 20 or so episodes).
In hindsight yes you can skip them, but if you where one watching them weekly you would either have to slog through it or dip out and pray that this filler wasn't the kind that significantly changes the rest story

I think a good example what modern filler are would look like is if the cut up and stretched all the mha movies into 10-12 episodes and shove it into the tv series
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I'll agree thing like the full scale filler arcs like Bleach's Bounto arc tend to be shit, but the bite sized filler (ironically happened a lot in Naruto) where they just make a mishmash of a team had a better track record due to the spotlight missing from those side characters. Even then some of the worse filler arcs still became more memorable than most modern anime.
 
wtfNeedSignUp said:
I'll agree thing like the full scale filler arcs like Bleach's Bounto arc tend to be shit, but the bite sized filler (ironically happened a lot in Naruto) where they just make a mishmash of a team had a better track record due to the spotlight missing from those side characters. Even then some of the worse filler arcs still became more memorable than most modern anime.
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Kakashi's True Face will be remembered for centuries while Jujutsu Kaisen was forgotten the nanosecond it ended.
 
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