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Have you seen how's Japanese society for the last two decades? It's no wonder isekais became popular and still are, as being resurrected as a pencil knife is better than the salaryman life.
 
It is now the birthday of this veteran VA
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I am about 3/4 the way through Gleipnir, and while it definitely has had some good moments, I am not sure how I feel about it. The not so subtle sexual imagery effectively alludes to the MC being a bottom getting pegged by women while having little, if any, agency, and there is a general theme of emasculation and humiliation throughout the story. I get that pathetic, loser main characters are a Japanese staple at this point, but the faggot that turns into the mascot with a gun honestly takes the cake as far as the ones I have seen. That being said, the action scenes have been pretty solid, and I will admit that I am somewhat intrigued by the story as a whole.

Does the manga get any better? I am half curious to see where the story is, and the main character has become notably less of a bitch as the story progressed, so I have some hopes that things might tie together decently.
 
Fount of BadSpeak said:
Does the manga get any better? I am half curious to see where the story is, and the main character has become notably less of a bitch as the story progressed, so I have some hopes that things might tie together decently.
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No.

I have been curious like you to see where the plot ended up after the anime adaptation (that was thrown out while the manga was still in progress, if I remember right) and it's completely clear that the author had no fucking idea how to resolve the plot. It becomes.... muddled, with plot points redeveloped and ignored and rewritten, characters being thrown around randomly. It becomes a confused mess that's not even sure of its own themes. The ending is bad, not even funny bad or hysterical bad, simply complete half-assed mediocrity.

Just to make an example with MASSIVE spoilers

The end boss of the series is Camera Man. Do you remember the voyeur guy that in the anime gets all pissed because the protagonist starts talking with Cat Ear girl? The guy that gets KILLED in the anime adaptation because he was irrelevant? So, Cat Ear girl gets annihilated from reality and simply disappears and everyone forgets about her until the final moment when Camera Man goes full incel and tries to destroy the world to avenge her or something in a Final Fantasy-style boss battle after absorbing the power of The Aliens. Or something. Also the Alien is lying about their background or something.

Platinum End at least was deliriously funny in its badness and spite, Gleipnir was just sad.
 
RSU 1741 said:
No.

I have been curious like you to see where the plot ended up after the anime adaptation (that was thrown out while the manga was still in progress, if I remember right) and it's completely clear that the author had no fucking idea how to resolve the plot. It becomes.... muddled, with plot points redeveloped and ignored and rewritten, characters being thrown around randomly. It becomes a confused mess that's not even sure of its own themes. The ending is bad, not even funny bad or hysterical bad, simply complete half-assed mediocrity.

Just to make an example with MASSIVE spoilers

The end boss of the series is Camera Man. Do you remember the voyeur guy that in the anime gets all pissed because the protagonist starts talking with Cat Ear girl? The guy that gets KILLED in the anime adaptation because he was irrelevant? So, Cat Ear girl gets annihilated from reality and simply disappears and everyone forgets about her until the final moment when Camera Man goes full incel and tries to destroy the world to avenge her or something in a Final Fantasy-style boss battle after absorbing the power of The Aliens. Or something. Also the Alien is lying about their background or something.

Platinum End at least was deliriously funny in its badness and spite, Gleipnir was just sad.
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Wow, what a shitshow, thanks for the warning. That is a real bummer, as I have actually been getting more into the show as it progressed, but I guess this explains why there wasn't any season two in the works despite the first season being more solid that I expected. Seems like this was a case of a mangaka making a story without a proper plan and just winging it after a certain point.
 
RIP Matthew, we hardly knew you... no really, we hardly knew you. Another week, another flurry of examples why pacing and character development matters. Matthew's death and funeral are zoomed passed and there is no cause or time to grieve. 79' devoted multiple scenes and episodes to Matthew's bad heart, the funeral, and the fallout from it. From his death to his burial you got a great sense of how a small tightnit community comes together to mourn. The new show has this neglected bastard in the dirt in less than 8 minutes...

Since all previous religious scenes were removed, Anne suddenly speaking to the pastor's wife like she's always been her confidant comes off as very hollow. We never saw the pastor's wife but once, so suddenly seeing her and other one off characters for but a brief moment really shows you how much was thrown to the wayside. Even Anne's crying scene with Marilla (arguably the most emotional moment in the series) is dreadfully short. In contrast to that the 79' english dub is actually fantastic, better than both Japanese performances in my opinion. It's one thing to record a good crying scene, but to record a good crying scene in an anime dub from over 30 years ago? That's unique.
 
Lone MacReady II said:
.Another week, another flurry of examples why pacing and character development matters.
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This series is basically a super condensed cliff notes version, with 24 episodes planned to speed run through the rest of the story. Thanks for recommending the original series. Anne isn't even as creative in this and no mention of the fairies whatsoever.
 
Lone MacReady II said:
RIP Matthew, we hardly knew you... no really, we hardly knew you. Another week, another flurry of examples why pacing and character development matters. Matthew's death and funeral are zoomed passed and there is no cause or time to grieve. 79' devoted multiple scenes and episodes to Matthew's bad heart, the funeral, and the fallout from it. From his death to his burial you got a great sense of how a small tightnit community comes together to mourn. The new show has this neglected bastard in the dirt in less than 8 minutes...

Since all previous religious scenes were removed, Anne suddenly speaking to the pastor's wife like she's always been her confidant comes off as very hollow. We never saw the pastor's wife but once, so suddenly seeing her and other one off characters for but a brief moment really shows you how much was thrown to the wayside. Even Anne's crying scene with Marilla (arguably the most emotional moment in the series) is dreadfully short. In contrast to that the 79' english dub is actually fantastic, better than both Japanese performances in my opinion. It's one thing to record a good crying scene, but to record a good crying scene in an anime dub from over 30 years ago? That's unique.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=8aaKoFSPlGM:1226
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Especially a dub from South Africa of all places.That is quite good
 
why would anyone give a shit which voice actor's birthday it is

at least you retards are done shitting on apothecary diaries, it's like you're allergic to things that are good. Enjoy one piece and bleach I guess. It's like I'm really in 4chan
 
I stopped watching Apothecary Diaries like two months ago. I think the main issue is how it defanged the setting to be as dangerous as a slice of life show. Considering the whole setup is court intrigue and it devolved into mystery of the week.

The writer shouldn't have gone so fast to have the top concubines interact with the main character. Even when he/she brought a new concubine they very fast fucked it up by pretty much telling the audience who she is.
 
wtfNeedSignUp said:
I stopped watching Apothecary Diaries like two months ago. I think the main issue is how it defanged the setting to be as dangerous as a slice of life show. Considering the whole setup is court intrigue and it devolved into mystery of the week.

The writer shouldn't have gone so fast to have the top concubines interact with the main character. Even when he/she brought a new concubine they very fast fucked it up by pretty much telling the audience who she is.
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For what it's worth the last few episodes have seen Maomao
Kidnapped and brought across the country, threatened with caning, threatened with execution, technically surviving an execution (it was pretty shitty) and in the vicinity of a gunpowder factory explosion (admittedly, incredibly defanged)
 
I'm starting to truly believe that if you want to understand how anime got popular in the west you just need to smoke a bunch of weed and binge 90's sci-fi/horror anime. Preferably in a college dorm.
Literally every anime oldhead I know has that exact backstory, I think there's a pattern here.
 
VeteranOfTheRetardWars said:
I'm starting to truly believe that if you want to understand how anime got popular in the west you just need to smoke a bunch of weed and binge 90's sci-fi/horror anime. Preferably in a college dorm.
Literally every anime oldhead I know has that exact backstory, I think there's a pattern here.
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Tape-trading circles were exactly how these college-aged fans got their anime fix. Why not make it a movie night with your drinking/weed buddies?
 
Kari Kamiya said:
Tape-trading circles were exactly how these college-aged fans got their anime fix. Why not make it a movie night with your drinking/weed buddies?
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That's what started it. This was stuff you weren't seeing on TV yet, and domestic animation dared not cross that line with regular viewers. Word-of-mouth, newsletters, BBS, conventions and private screenings was the only way to see this for newcomers, meeting people, establishing connections and contacts, it was an early start.
 
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