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numetalborder said:
I don't pay much attention to that series but I see nothing objectionable from it.
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You don't need to have something objectionable for someone to dislike something. I simply don't like the cast nor the romance and that is most of the series and amazing art and wacky shit isn't enough to hold my interest.
numetalborder said:
I am one of those people who live under rocks, why the hate?
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After a failed confession between Akira and Shizuka they meet a doctor and it's setting up for the obvious scenario where Shizuka has to choose between her dream or staying with Akira and his group. The issue is that the author adds some unnecessary shit like Shizuka comparing the doctor to Akira and meet cute hand touching and then the chapters ends with Shizuka deciding to stay and Akira walking away crying in a very pathetic panel.
There was so much backlash over this that the next fucking chapter starts with Shizuka running after him while being chased after zombies and they confess their love to each other.
 
wtfNeedSignUp said:
It's just a really boring trope by now that's mainly there because it's the standard. The only anime who did child soldiers right was Black Lagoon (sorta).
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Gundam: Iron Blooded-Orphans has an interesting spin on the idea: a bunch of suddenly-free child soldiers trying to quickly become respectful mercenaries on a pretty unforgiving reality. A lot of them don't read and don't know how to act like simple civilians, it's cool to see they change over time. But one of the protagonists, Mikazuki, is portrayed as one of the 'too far gone to be fixed'.
 
numetalborder said:
Out of curiosity, may I ask why? I don't pay much attention to that series but I see nothing objectionable from it.
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It's pretty clear that Endless Torment is brain-poisoned. There is no "NTR" or "cuck shit". Dandadan's setup is a bunch of will-they-won't-they between the two leads similar to Kaguya-sama and Spy x Family, and it likes to introduce several of its recurring cast members as romantic competition for both of them. That's all.

This could probably be a TORtanic phenomenon - people had such a good time laughing at Rent-A-GF and Attack On Titan that they's screaming at every other manga to have a chapter where the MC has an incel rant and imagines the lead girl having sex with some dude in a beret.
 
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Trollblade69 said:
It's pretty clear that Endless Torment is brain-poisoned. There is no "NTR" or "cuck shit". Dandadan's setup is a bunch of will-they-won't-they between the two leads similar to Kaguya-sama and Spy x Family, and it likes to introduce several of its recurring cast members as romantic competition for both of them. That's all.

This could probably be a TORtanic phenomenon - people had such a good time laughing at Rent-A-GF and Attack On Titan that they's screaming at every other manga to have a chapter where the MC has an incel rant and imagines the lead girl having sex with some dude in a beret.
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Nigger I literally said in a earlier post that a lot of it is people on 4chan trying to make another Rent a Girlfriend situation and trolling. Fucking tag me you bitch if you want to insult me and considering you have went on multiple rants crying about 4chan not liking things you like in threads across the site you aren't one to talk about brainrot.
Nameless One said:
We are living proof thats horse shit.
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A small minority doesn't disprove my point and a lot of this thread is still people crying about new shit. Also I wouldn't call the site that mostly hates anime and is tiny in comparison to the wider Internet proof of much in that grand scheme of things.
 
Endless Torment said:
A small minority doesn't disprove my point and a lot of this thread is still people crying about new shit. Also I wouldn't call the site that mostly hates anime and is tiny in comparison to the wider Internet proof of much in that grand scheme of things.
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You are way too insecure about it and still believe in the "normie" bullshit from a decade ago. You are still somehow using 4chan, a site for fat balding men and trannies and faggots who can't let go as any conceivable and valid proof about anime fandoms and shit when these retarded niggers all concern themselves with fapping to LOLI shit. What the fuck are you smoking? Get real. I introduced many "normies" to Texhnolyze and all sorts of kino and it's vastly opened up their interests in art. Be the change you want to see in the world and online you stupid fucking insignificant doomer faggot.

I thought you were alright but it seems that you are also a fat balding man who can't let go of shit and has a dogshit worldview. How hilarious. Always the Pokétroons. Go back to whatever /a/ hellhole you came from. They need you. Wanna know why everything is so shit to you? It's not their fault, it isn't "MOST PEOPLE", its not the masses. It's you. And this goes for anyone passing by who has a similar retarded thought process. You faggots ruin everything around you and get down over things you can fix. A befitting username for a soulless husk.
 
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Nameless One said:
You are way too insecure about it and still bwlieve in the "normie" bullshit from a decade ago. You are using 4chan, a site for fat balding men who can't let go as any conceivable and valid proof about anime fandoms and shit. What the fuck are you smoking? Get real. I introduced many "normies" to Texhnolyze and all sorts of kino and it's vastly opened up their interests in art. Be the change you want to see in the world and online you stupid fucking insignificant doomer faggot.
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I am well aware that "normies" watch anime and has mentioned that in other threads about how watching anime is normalized now, but you introducing people to Texhnolyze is different then them going on their own and looking at older anime. I'm not being a doomer it's just that most anime watchers will simply watch the new popular thing and what's readily available to them on streaming and this isn't any different then hobbies like movies. There is also nothing wrong with people only watching new shit either unless they complain that everything sucks now, but refuses to actively put in effort to find something they like.
Nameless One said:
You faggots ruin everything around you and get down over things you can fix. A befitting username for a soulless husk.
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You know little about me and I love sharing older series to my co workers and people who ask. I like getting people to expand their horizons, but I'm not going to pretend a lot of people don't.
 
Endless Torment said:
I am well aware that "normies" watch anime and has mentioned that in other threads about how watching anime is normalized now, but you introducing people to Texhnolyze is different then them going on their own and looking at older anime. I'm not being a doomer it's just that most anime watchers will simply watch the new popular thing and what's readily available to them on streaming and this isn't any different then hobbies like movies. There is also nothing wrong with people only watching new shit either unless they complain that everything sucks now, but refuses to actively put in effort to find something they like.

You know little about me and I love sharing older series to my co workers and people who ask. I like getting people to expand their horizons, but I'm not going to pretend a lot of people don't.
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You don't see what I mean though, by introducing them they will find older things on their own if they have interest in anime and believe me most people like good stories and such. You just have to push them a little. I'm the one who found the shit on my own. Recency bias isn't as prevalent as the internet makes it seem. I had a random young restaurant employee in bumfuck nowhere Georgia ask me if I was reading Trigun, I was. Its just a matter of pop culture and societal stuff for people. If anything the internet has vastly helped these older works be as much as they are. Their potential to be discovered is amped up.
 
Nameless One said:
You don't see what I mean though, by introducing them they will find older things on their own. You just have to push them.
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I don't dislike you so I'm going to be nice. I am simply generalizing the audience at large and am not trying to make a greater statement beyond that. Also while people around me might find expand their horizons that is a drop in the bucket compared to the wider world or what influence tiktok or whatever they use to get recommendations have on the average person.
At worst I'm lamenting the fact that newer people don't have the same drive to find anime series themselves which is not be insulting or calling them horrible people.
 
Endless Torment said:
I don't dislike you so I'm going to be nice. I am simply generalizing the audience at large and am not trying to make a greater statement beyond that. Also while people around me might find expand their horizons that is a drop in the bucket compared to the wider world or what influence tiktok or whatever they use to get recommendations have on the average person.
At wost I'm lamenting the fact that newer people don't have the same drive to find anime series themselves which is not be insulting or calling them horrible people.
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It is pretty bitter and makes you seem like some jerkoff no offense. Lamenting is for crybabies. We accept it, and let people be fans of what they choose regardless of any bullshit influences at large it's what gatekeeping is for, what little there is left. I don't care for most of the new anime unless they seem well-made, I always try to find the ones worth giving a damn about. I began mine with FLCL and Cowboy Bebop so my standards and niches will be forever different to someone who began with let's say Dandadan, One Piece, DBZ, etc.

Being honest, I see no one besides those I gather around to watch with ever seeing the likes of Mononoke (2008) on their own or without Netflix/streaming. Netflix is how I got into deeper things like finally watching MONSTER. There will always be a middleman or influence for how an older anime/kino can get traction. It is unavoidable. What's there to lament about? Most anime is so standalone its hard to really form any meaningful community around them beyond an empty space for discussion. Shit like EVA will have an old great forum but most anime even deeper ones have no real place to talk about them or engage with others about them beyond forums like this or in passing. Use these passions to make new things and be influenced, inspired.
 
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Imam Shamil said:
@Nameless One @Endless Torment
As a disgusting newfag/normie myself, can you guys provide some obscure kino. ENLIGHTEN ME!
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I'm a normie too. Angel Egg and Catsoup OVA
Also my prior reccs and anime listings withstanding. Not obscure, but try MONSTER. Obscure ≠ good quality narratives.
Naoki Urasawa is a nice author, great mangas, and anime adaptations.

There is the original Gilgamesh manga by Shotaro Ishinomori but it only has 6 chapters translated and the anime diverges. Better luck learning Japanese if you want the real obscure shit.
 
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Imam Shamil said:
@Nameless One @Endless Torment
As a disgusting newfag/normie myself, can you guys provide some obscure kino. ENLIGHTEN ME!
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As mentioned obscure doesn't mean good plus I don't know what your interests are. It's also hard for me to define obscure because people who grew up in the late 90s/00s will remember Last Exile, Mushishi, Crest/Banner of the Stars, and Captain Tylor, but I'm not really sure how talked about they are now.

There really is nothing wrong with going back and watching the cult classics or popular things of a specific era to start. Give me a genre and what you watched and I'll think of something more tailored later.
 
Try Ninja Scroll and Samurai Champloo if you love Jap shit.
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A book I want to see properly animated, not enough WWII Japan anime.
 
Endless Torment said:
As mentioned obscure doesn't mean good plus I don't know what your interests are. It's also hard for me to define obscure because people who grew up in the late 90s/00s will remember Last Exile, Mushishi, Crest/Banner of the Stars, and Captain Tylor, but I'm not really sure how talked about they are now.

There really is nothing wrong with going back and watching the cult classics or popular things of a specific era to start. Give me a genre and what you watched and I'll think of something more tailored later.
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Anything with a good story and solid ending. I've enjoyed all sorts of genres from romance to sienen/shonen. Berserk (manga), toradora, monogatari, kantanagatari, non-non-biyori, FMA:B.
Aaaaanything. Give me your top picks.
 
Imam Shamil said:
Anything with a good story and solid ending. I've enjoyed all sorts of genres from romance to sienen/shonen. Berserk (manga), toradora, monogatari, kantanagatari, non-non-biyori, FMA:B.
Aaaaanything. Give me your top picks.
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The only truly obscure thing I can think of is Kimagure Orange Road which is another romance from the 80s like Maison Ikkoku, but I have not seen anyone mention it anymore unlike the later. If you do watch it it's up to you if you want to watch the movie as it's a very serious and cynical deconstruction of everything prior which does make it unique in doing so.
It's easier to talk about obscure manga because even things that were popular in Japan are somewhat obscure if they never had an anime or official release.

Anime wise it's perfectly fine to just go through the 80s-00s and pick out all the popular series from that era as people already went through the chaff and those things were popular for a reason.
  • Wolf's Rain
  • Eureka 7
  • Idion
  • Dunbine
  • Shakugan no Shana
  • Excel Saga
  • Dragon Half
  • Gun x Sword
  • s-CRY-ed
  • Birdy the Mighty
  • Gungrave
  • Cromartie
  • The various Gundams
  • Martian Successor Nadesico
There is much more that I've watched which makes it hard to just say to watch so and so or even remember sometimes. One nice thing is that if you have a friend or coworker who doesn't want to pirate it's really easy to just go through their streaming service and pick out from the much more limited list.
 
Actually what I realized is that what an obscure anime actually is are obviously the ones that were never translated particularly ovas during the boom, but also the seasonal shows or series that are enjoyable, but would never be the first thing you would recommend.
We have like 50+ years of anime to recommend and because they have a much higher time investment than film you won't be recommending the more middle of the road or second best shows unless someone is looking for something very specific.

Like for example if someone is asking to get into mecha or just asking getting into anime you are going to pick the obvious ones and not necessarily say Gargantia, Dai Guard, or Broken Blade/Break Blade.
There are also things like Jyu oh sei which i found interesting and it's probably someone's hidden gem or favorite, but is also something that would never be the first thing that I would suggest to someone. I would imagine just fun or more niche series like Vandread or Nyaruko: Crawling with Love would be in a similar position.
 
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