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I'd argue there is one edgy show from the 2000s that people swear up and down is a masterpiece even more so then Elfen Lied

tbh I just found school days boring, I never got why people either called it the worst anime ever made or a deconstruction masterpiece.
The nice boat scene would of been so much satisfying if the MC was actually despicable and not as much of a bland harm protagonist as everyone else with the only difference being instead of "he's nice" his only trait is "he's not nice"
 
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vern said:
I'd argue there is one edgy show from the 2000s that people swear up and down is a masterpiece even more so then Elfen Lied
https://youtube.com/watch?v=HIsd-568FJY
tbh I just found school days boring, I never got why people either called it the worst anime ever made or a deconstruction masterpiece.
The nice boat scene would of been so much satisfying if the MC was actually despicable and not as much of a bland harm protagonist as everyone else with the only difference being instead of "he's nice" his only trait is "he's not nice"
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I always got the impression the ending was the only part of School Days that people care about. I think back when it first aired people just thought it was kind of meh, but frustrating how the protagonist and other characters acted leading to some hate-watching, and then the final episode was such a swerve that people weren't expecting that it ended up permanently carving its place in the anime fandom landscape just for that despite the rest of the anime not being special.
 
Retarded Weeb said:
I always got the impression the ending was the only part of School Days that people care about. I think back when it first aired people just thought it was kind of meh, but frustrating how the protagonist and other characters acted leading to some hate-watching, and then the final episode was such a swerve that people weren't expecting that it ended up permanently carving its place in the anime fandom landscape just for that despite the rest of the anime not being special.
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Also, because the ending was a completely different one from the endings in the VN version, or some people think that it combined two of the bad endings into one, (and I think the manga ending was also different too), also may have caught viewers by surprise. But since the original VN was an ero game, I'm not sure how many people that played the VN also watched the anime adaptation.
 
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Retarded Weeb said:
I always got the impression the ending was the only part of School Days that people care about. I think back when it first aired people just thought it was kind of meh, but frustrating how the protagonist and other characters acted leading to some hate-watching, and then the final episode was such a swerve that people weren't expecting that it ended up permanently carving its place in the anime fandom landscape just for that despite the rest of the anime not being special.
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That makes me wonder, what separates school days from recent dupsterfire series like Domestic Girlfriend, Rent a Girlfriend, etc? I'd say 90% of people watching/reading series like those are hate-watching/reading, but I wouldn't say there anywhere close to detested as school days is.
I only watched 1 season of the later (and have been pretty much completely spoiled on both) and best I can guess is there is some shit that hits the fan every handful of chapters/episodes that keeps building up where school days had maybe the yandere chick going insane in the background while normal harem shenanigans happened and MC banging everyone with little to no consequences until nice boat happens.
 
Retarded Weeb said:
I always got the impression the ending was the only part of School Days that people care about. I think back when it first aired people just thought it was kind of meh, but frustrating how the protagonist and other characters acted leading to some hate-watching, and then the final episode was such a swerve that people weren't expecting that it ended up permanently carving its place in the anime fandom landscape just for that despite the rest of the anime not being special.
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It's not even the ending, it's the Nice Boat meme that people remember
 
vern said:
"he's not nice"
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That's what makes the ending more memorable. The MC takes the harm protagonist to its natural conclusion like any horny teenager would. By fucking every pussy that throw themselves at him. Most male watchers would call him a chad. Most female watcher would clap when he gets stabbed
 
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Also, because the ending was a completely different one from the endings in the VN version, or some people think that it combined two of the bad endings into one, (and I think the manga ending was also different too), also may have caught viewers by surprise. But since the original VN was an ero game, I'm not sure how many people that played the VN also watched the anime adaptation.
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Wasn't the appeal of the School Days VN that you could make really mean choices and end up with really fucked up endings? I remember watching a compilation of some bad endings when I was like 13 of characters jumping off buildings head-first in front of the MC and the MC getting stabbed by a girl , running away then bleeding out while looking for help. It was actually my first exposure to fucked up shit in anime and I imagine a lot of other people remember the series for the same reason.
 
Namekian George Floyd said:
Wasn't the appeal of the School Days VN that you could make really mean choices and end up with really fucked up endings? I remember watching a compilation of some bad endings when I was like 13 of characters jumping off buildings head-first in front of the MC and the MC getting stabbed by a girl , running away then bleeding out while looking for help. It was actually my first exposure to fucked up shit in anime and I imagine a lot of other people remember the series for the same reason.
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Hell, i showed my semi-norme friend the school days ending and he had such a surprise pikachu face, i laughed my ass off.
 
Endless Torment said:
Elfen Lied wasn't on Toonami
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I had no idea but it sure seemed like the kind of anime that becomes popular in America thanks to Toonami.

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Too Many Losing Heroines! looks like a really sweet harem anime that does a nice balance of actually being clever while not having to figure out who will be the lucky girl that the main character will go out on a date with. If anything, it makes me think the harem genre is getting more complex in the anime landscape.

So far, in the beginning three episodes, it looks really well done from both an animation and writing aspect.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=Etl3xzp9U0c
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I watched it and found it pretty boring because unlike in a regular harem anime, which already isn't all that exciting to me, there didn't seem to be any stakes in the relationship of MC-kun with the girls. It's like a slice of life anime, and while I used to enjoy those years ago when I started expanding the genres of anime I watch, I got bored of them eventually.
 
Is there a manga which is a reversal of the "kicked out of the hero's party" where instead of being kicked out the guy is an asshole that leaves the party because he was outright carrying them (or everyone thinks he was), so the party willingly drops from S grade to C grade or something but find that their teamwork dramatically improves and it becomes rewarding to develop their own skills?
 
Grog said:
I had no idea but it sure seemed like the kind of anime that becomes popular in America thanks to Toonami.
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I have a feeling it gave ADV a few more years of longevity. Word-of-mouth goes far when you allow it to.

EDIT: Oh shit, it actually was proposed for [adult swim], but it would've been shredded by the censors.
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Gravityqueen4life said:
That's what makes the ending more memorable. The MC takes the harm protagonist to its natural conclusion like any horny teenager would. By fucking every pussy that throw themselves at him. Most male watchers would call him a chad. Most female watcher would clap when he gets stabbed
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thats why the ending really did nothing for me the MC was so much of a boring beta even after he started fucking people and that things people point to why he such a despicable character are so shallow and one dimensional that there was no satisfaction when he gets it (the second girl getting stabbed got more of reaction because she had some moments worth hating)

If they actually made him a chad personality wise the more the series went on (or even ramped up the absurdity of how he only cares about sex like Golden Boy) that would of been interesting, but he stays the same blank slate who's somehow more uninteresting then the harm protagonists he's trying to deconstruct.
I don't know many know the various endings to the VN, but I kinda think the forever or pushed too far endings would of been more satisfying .
 
Betonhaus said:
Is there a manga which is a reversal of the "kicked out of the hero's party" where instead of being kicked out the guy is an asshole that leaves the party because he was outright carrying them (or everyone thinks he was), so the party willingly drops from S grade to C grade or something but find that their teamwork dramatically improves and it becomes rewarding to develop their own skills?
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Not enough of a power fantasy. People want to be told 'oh no, I'm just unappreciated by my peers, if only I wasn't held back by them I would succeed despite having skills others look down upon!'.
 
Gravityqueen4life said:
Could you imagine Elfen Lied being released overseas but run by 4KIDS? The censors would be mind boggling.
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I vaguely remember watching a joke Youtube video over a decade ago that was called something like "Elfen Lied if it was dubbed for 4Kids" that basically showed an edited part of the flashback to when the main girl was a kid and her making a friend at the orphanage, skips over all the bad stuff that happens to her and then the series ends with only that.
 
Retarded Weeb said:
I vaguely remember watching a joke Youtube video over a decade ago that was called something like "Elfen Lied if it was dubbed for 4Kids" that basically showed an edited part of the flashback to when the main girl was a kid and her making a friend at the orphanage, skips over all the bad stuff that happens to her and then the series ends with only that.
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Might of been a different version but I remember this from 15 years ago
 
Betonhaus said:
Is there a manga which is a reversal of the "kicked out of the hero's party" where instead of being kicked out the guy is an asshole that leaves the party because he was outright carrying them (or everyone thinks he was), so the party willingly drops from S grade to C grade or something but find that their teamwork dramatically improves and it becomes rewarding to develop their own skills?
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The only allowed form of character development is finding another skill to feed your power fantasy...
 
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