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I broke my rule and began watching Votoms Pailsen Files because I found the AMV of it set to Transformers music on Youtube. I had avoided it because I was worried the writing would be stupid, but so far it looks like it may be even better than the original show! The focus is on Chirico and military corruption, the action is moderate and tempered, and so far there are no stooges or stasis pod romances. I also like the art style. People may say it looks dated but it's not; it's timeless because it's realistic and all the characters clearly look and act like adults. There's also no coomer stuff so far, so this may end up being an anime I am not ashamed to enjoy. I wish all anime was like this; it's exactly what I expect from media, and anime would be far less hated and low-quality. I may watch all the other shows I was curious about but never got around to after this (namely Dairugger, Dougram, Golion, Layzner, Galient, Dragonar, King Gainer, Bornfree, Izenborg, and Blue Noah).
Mayfly said:
I need a suggestion for a sci-fi anime or manga to watch. I've been watching Planetes and it's sparked an interest in discovering other series in the genre.
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FLAG if you like that kind of realism. It's about a military journalist documenting the corruption underpinning a Middle Eastern conflict. The HAVWCs are very cool robots as well, though they're not as cool as the original Metal Jacket Squadron designs (screw Code Geass for taking the slot of what could have been an amazing anime).
 
Found this online. Is this true? Is this how McCracken feels about the PPG anime?
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Warai Otoko said:
Do you know more anime like that?
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The closest I can come up with are Obsolete (explores how society gets reshaped by robots that are being traded to humans by aliens for limestone; skip the final episode) and Gasaraki (very prophetic regarding Middle Eastern affairs). I've heard Dougram is similar in that it retells the Algerian War from the Algerian perspective, but I haven't seen it. Gundam SEED Destiny explores similar themes (namely how actual corruption can be woven into conspiracy theories used for manipulation and how realistic solutions can be manipulated into self-serving regimes), but it also has a lot of problems and tiresome anime tropes.
 
Does anyone know of a way to filter out specific tags on weebcentral?
Since it's the new not-Mangadex I've been using it as a way to find new releases, but a problem with that new releases can and often include Yaoi (T/N: Yaoi means gay lala homosexuals) or long strip manhua.
 
BiggestKai said:
Does anyone know of a way to filter out specific tags on weebcentral?
Since it's the new not-Mangadex I've been using it as a way to find new releases, but a problem with that new releases can and often include Yaoi (T/N: Yaoi means gay lala homosexuals) or long strip manhua.
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Comick + Tachiyomi SY or any Mihon fork is my go-to. I don't really read manga on websites but from glancing at Comick's UI there is a way to filter out yaoi content on a universal scale.

I find Comick to basically be a suitable replacement for 'dex.
 
I just got to watching MHA You're Next and...I kind of stopped some thirty minutes in. Ever since the whole McDonald's thing, I just can't take the story seriously anymore. Well, I never did, but the entertainment value kind of wore off after Horikoshi decided fuck all to his knockoff Avengers.
 
If you guys had to make a short list of bad anime adaptions based on manga you liked, could you think of any?
Aside from some low hanging fruit (Berserk 2016, every Junji ito anime, etc.) I think it'd list
Black Cat: iirc it was the first shonenshit series I read outside of 4kids/toonami and first one after sorta finding out what Shonen jump was way back when so I do have a small soft spot, and from what I remember, the anime barley followed the manga (and it wasn't a case of them running out of material the anime came out after the manga finished)

Blue Giant: I'll admit this is a good movie, but it pissed me off. They tried to fit 10 volumes worth of manga into one movie and had to cut a lot of good moments from the manga and further character development which just made me wish it was a full series instead, especially with how well the music is and some of the performances when they transition to janky CG to completely experimental animation (I'd might even been satisfied with 2 movies)

lucifer and the biscuit hammer: I swear to god this was a money laundering front for something, if it just had bad animation it could of been somewhat funny like that series the rotoscoped a guy on a tractor, but it was just fucking boring and sapped all the fun out of the original manga.
 
vern said:
If you guys had to make a short list of bad anime adaptions based on manga you liked, could you think of any?
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Toriko would be one of my top ones as it probably actively hurt the manga. It was heavily toned down for a younger demographic, had shitty animation, was shilled hard as fuck, added a new character to shill toys and add more comedy, one of the endings was memed in Japan for how shit it was, and the final thing they covered changed so much if they didn't cancel the anime they would had have to redo the entire arc so they could even do another season.
The anime would make you not want to read the vastly superior manga which had to rush through it's final arc because it was axed early. It still somehow managed to have a good final arc and conclusion despite clearly speed running the ending.
 
vern said:
Blue Giant: I'll admit this is a good movie, but it pissed me off. They tried to fit 10 volumes worth of manga into one movie and had to cut a lot of good moments from the manga and further character development which just made me wish it was a full series instead, especially with how well the music is and some of the performances when they transition to janky CG to completely experimental animation (I'd might even been satisfied with 2 movies)
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I do admit that it's not the best idea to fit 10 volumes of manga into a movie but Blue Giant was probably still my favorite anime movie of the decade. If it did get a full adaptation it probably would've been managed by a literal who anime studio that would've fucked up everything.

vern said:
lucifer and the biscuit hammer: I swear to god this was a money laundering front for something, if it just had bad animation it could of been somewhat funny like that series the rotoscoped a guy on a tractor, but it was just fucking boring and sapped all the fun out of the original manga.
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This one was absolutely tragic. Fortunately Sengoku Youkou was a good adaptation with the boys at WHITE FOX vouching to do a FULL ADAPTATION as opposed to doing only the second half of the manga. I'm waiting on the Blu-Rays to drop before I watch the second season as I stopped watching anime all together as of a couple of months ago to play vidya but season 1 was WORLDS ahead of Biscuit Hammer. Also cutting the fanservice and a good amount of the jokes from the manga was tragic too. Having the pillows have an insert song was extra salt on the wound and I dropped the anime like a sack of bricks right after.

The Helck anime I thought was pretty underwhelming with the only benefit being the voice actors being spot on.

A hot take would be the Girls Last Tour anime. I LOVE tsukumizu's artstyle and the fact that the anime didn't even bother to stick with the artstyle was enough to make me dislike it. Along with the fact that it isn't even properly finished, I would only recommend it AFTER you read the manga.

If this counts, I'd name like 90% of all visual novel anime adaptations. I think there are like maybe 4-5 that are good and like 10 that are considered "passable" due to seeing some cool moments animated or having a voiced protagonist.
 
HexFag said:
I do admit that it's not the best idea to fit 10 volumes of manga into a movie but Blue Giant was probably still my favorite anime movie of the decade. If it did get a full adaptation it probably would've been managed by a literal who anime studio that would've fucked up everything.
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It kind of was, the studio who made it NUT, has only made 5 or 6 things: Blue Giant, Deca-Dence, NegaPosi Angler, and all the Saga of Tanya the Evil stuff.
The question would be if it was a full series, would the music be just as good since they got a pretty famous jazz musician in japan to help with the score and outside of the moments in each performance some of my favorite scenes where when Dai was just playing out in the snow or some random spot in tokyo with not that much animation, which is actually pretty often in the manga (and another reason why despite thinking the movie is great annoys me). Given how much band anime has seen a reassurance in recent seasons I'm sure a decently know studio would of picked it up and while not being as good visually, would of had the upside of going more in depth of Dai falling in love with jazz (the move actually skipped the first 3 volumes, the tokyo arc which the movie covered is the second arc in the series) as well as a bit more of Yukinori's backstory and Tamada learning to catch up to the two.
 
vern said:
If you guys had to make a short list of bad anime adaptions based on manga you liked, could you think of any?
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The immediate answer for me is Majin Tantei Nougami Neuro, but it's kind of a weird example. The anime is actually almost perfect whenever it's directly adapting parts of the manga. Like the animation, pacing, music, and voice acting are all solid. But the problem is that only like half the series is actually a straight adaptation of the manga. The other half are anime-original filler episodes that mostly aren't as interesting as the manga material, and several storylines and plotpoints from the first half of the manga got cut or skipped over entirely. And it only covers the first half of the manga, which y'know it wasn't finished yet so fair, but since it was just a 25 episode deal they decided to end things off on an anime-original ending which was kind of stupid and some of the skipped over material was done so so they could turn it into foreshadowing for the new ending. I would kill for a full faithful adaptation from start to finish done, they could even reuse animation from the faithfully done parts of the anime we got for all I care. It's a 10/10 manga and I would love to see people's reactions to the insane shit that goes down in the second half.

Another one I thought of is The World God Only Knows. It wasn't the worst adaptation, it has technical effort put into it and some good opening themes, but it has this overarching feeling that the anime staff got the tone of it wrong. The manga leans pretty far into the comedy of how absurd the premise is. It can be dramatic, but it's not really meant to be a serious romance story, at least not until the later parts where by that point it's somewhat earned the investment from the audience. The main character is an uber autist who shows little to no romantic or physical attraction to any of the girls he needs to seduce for the plot. But the anime feels like the studio only knew how to try and fit it into the late-night otaku-bait mold and there's this general feeling of them trying to make it feel more like a harem romance anime even though it really isn't. It not only makes things feel off but I think it caused casual anime-only viewers to get wrong expectations about what sort of anime it was going to be. And it obviously led the series failing to get a strong foothold since they then skipped half the manga to get to "the good part" where it actually does become kind of a harem story for season 3, but since they skipped over so much anyone watching without reading the manga isn't going to have the investment in what's going on or even know half the characters. I'm not exactly down over the whole thing since what we got was still decent and even the original manga kind of ran of steam in the end, but it certainly was a mishandled adaptation.
 
vern said:
If you guys had to make a short list of bad anime adaptions based on manga you liked, could you think of any?
Aside from some low hanging fruit (Berserk 2016, every Junji ito anime, etc.) I think it'd list
Black Cat: iirc it was the first shonenshit series I read outside of 4kids/toonami and first one after sorta finding out what Shonen jump was way back when so I do have a small soft spot, and from what I remember, the anime barley followed the manga (and it wasn't a case of them running out of material the anime came out after the manga finished)

Blue Giant: I'll admit this is a good movie, but it pissed me off. They tried to fit 10 volumes worth of manga into one movie and had to cut a lot of good moments from the manga and further character development which just made me wish it was a full series instead, especially with how well the music is and some of the performances when they transition to janky CG to completely experimental animation (I'd might even been satisfied with 2 movies)

lucifer and the biscuit hammer: I swear to god this was a money laundering front for something, if it just had bad animation it could of been somewhat funny like that series the rotoscoped a guy on a tractor, but it was just fucking boring and sapped all the fun out of the original manga.
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vern said:
If you guys had to make a short list of bad anime adaptions based on manga you liked, could you think of any?
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Chibi Vampire right off the top of my head. And Busou Renkin wasn't a bad watch, but it cut out stuff from the manga, which was a shame because I actually only watched the anime immediately after finishing the manga just to see those moments animated. Lol. Lmao even.

You mentioned Black Cat, and Chibi Vampire aired in the same fall season. I swear to God, the 2000s was full of anime adaptations that didn't follow the manga half the time, if that. I don't know why that was, if it was some strange 'aughts experiment or there were a lot of people thinking they could write the story "better" than the original creator. Although I think in most cases, that has everything to do with the manga being unfinished and there was no guarantee they'd get renewed so might as well make anime-original plots/endings to not overtake the manga. I'm not against this practice in all honesty, it's just that holy shit there's waaaay too many misses than hits.

Never saw nor read Black Cat, but I noticed a brother of mine dropped the anime pretty quickly the first go-round, which was odd for him to do (eventually he finished it, thought it was meh). All he told me was it wasn't like the manga at all, which he found confusing. I had to take his word for it.
 
Is there anything to watch on Crunchyroll? I feel like I watched pretty much everything that looks even half decent.
 
SSj_Ness (Yiffed) said:
Is there anything to watch on Crunchyroll? I feel like I watched pretty much everything that looks even half decent.
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Ever watched Thunderbolt Fantasy? It's a joint Japanese-Taiwanese puppet show written by the Saya No Uta/Fate Zero/Puella Magi Madoka Magica/Psycho Pass guy. It's about a guy from Not-China that crossed the forbidden demon cursed wastes no one has ever crossed to Not-Japan with a bunch of sealed divine weapons and the hijinks that ensue when people try to take them. It's actually pretty well animated considering it's stop motion puppetry.
 
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