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Found this earlier. Is this a real thing?
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I've got a question: I want to watch Ghost in the Shell in chronological order, but I forgot to write down the actual order when I added it to my backlog.
My understanding is this: Arise comes first, then the original movie, then SAC and at some point, the second movie. SAC 2045 is a continuation of SAC and comes at the end. Apparently there is also continuity shenanigans and Arise/SAC might not be canon, or at least take place in a different continuity than the "mainline" movies and manga.
Did I get that right?
 
30+GameOvers said:
I've got a question: I want to watch Ghost in the Shell in chronological order, but I forgot to write down the actual order when I added it to my backlog.
My understanding is this: Arise comes first, then the original movie, then SAC and at some point, the second movie. SAC 2045 is a continuation of SAC and comes at the end. Apparently there is also continuity shenanigans and Arise/SAC might not be canon, or at least take place in a different continuity than the "mainline" movies and manga.
Did I get that right?
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Arise is a prequel, I'd consider it not canon because I dipped after an episode or two because it sucked but I'm not sure of how closely it sticks to the story. I have a strong feeling it contradicts the flashbacks in SAC if nothing else.

SAC is an expanded retelling of the non-Puppetmaster parts of the first manga. It's shares events and stories with the manga but invents large arcs to tie them together (Laughing Man and Individual Eleven are new shit) so it's not manga-canon but it's pretty good on it's own. It happens before the GitS movie, the events of the movie cause her to leave Section 9 so it's pretty set in stone chronologically.

I don't think SAC and the Movie tie together well at all because the characterization is so different but there's nothing that really prevents you from jamming them together. It's mostly manga canon with some edges rounded off and maybe some changes to tone.
 
Oddjob OTP said:
Arise is a prequel, I'd consider it not canon because I dipped after an episode or two because it sucked but I'm not sure of how closely it sticks to the story. I have a strong feeling it contradicts the flashbacks in SAC if nothing else.

SAC is an expanded retelling of the non-Puppetmaster parts of the first manga. It's shares events and stories with the manga but invents large arcs to tie them together (Laughing Man and Individual Eleven are new shit) so it's not manga-canon but it's pretty good on it's own. It happens before the GitS movie, the events of the movie cause her to leave Section 9 so it's pretty set in stone chronologically.
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I remember watching the first two episodes of Arise and it wasn't too bad. Then again, I didn't watch the original movie or SAC yet so it might be of lower quality compared to those.
Quick search shows me that the movie happens before SAC, as it's set in 2029 and SAC takes place in 2030. Unless you mean the second movie and SAC 2nd gig, which seem to both take place in 2032.
I'm planning on reading the manga once I'm thru with everything, just to see if it's radically different from the Anime and OVAs. How are the games? I know that there was one online shooter that's since been shut down but that's about it.

Also, I noticed that one movie is literally just called "The New Movie"
Pretty ballsy, I know Pokemon got away with calling itself "The First Movie" because everyone knew they would make more, but this tile is going to age pretty badly the moment they make another one. Well, it aged badly only 2 years later when the live action movie released but most people pretend it never happened.
Reading the Wikipedia page just now shows that SAC 2045 is a Netflix original, eww. Has anybody seen this? Is it complete slop like the rest of Netflix anime anything or should I watch that as well?
 
Again though, they aren't the same canon. The movie "Ghost in the Shell" follows the manga, GitS:SAC is it's own canon. Without completely spoiling the story at the end of the Ghost in the Shell manga which the Ghost in the Shell movie is adapting Motoko Kusanagi leaves Section 9 and never comes back. GitS:SAC is about Motoko Kusanagi's time at Section 9 and very loosely adapts some of the stories of the manga before the events that lead her to leave.

So you can create your own canon that says "GitS:SAC leads to the events of the GitS movie" and it mostly makes sense; but it's not real or anything. They are separate canon.
 
vern said:
There's also this to consider next year.

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Funny thing, I originally got on boat to watch the series the first time when the live action movie came out and gave me the excuse to move it up on my backlog. That was in 2017, I forgot why I stopped watching it but I don't think it was due to the show itself, I think something came up around that time. Now history is repeating itself, I've seen this announcement too and remembered about the whole debacle. To my credit, I don't think I have seen any anime since then so it is merely a matter of forgetting, not taking on too many things to watch like I oftentimes do with games.
What are they going to call this one when we already have "The New Movie"? "The Newest Movie"? "The New Movie 2026"?
BiggestKai said:
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This doesn't really tell me anything without context. I am turned off by the moldy 3D models and weird animation, however.
 
vern said:
I think the real smell test for FOTM is how fast people lose interest be it in the west where discussions and posts all but dry up, or in japan where you stop seeing merchandise and collabs with almost anything they can think of.
For Frieren it'll be a case of if season 2 is as talked about as season 1, which assuming they don't pull one of three things will probably be just as popular
  • Madhouse doesn't dumps it on a different studio and ends up being a massive downgrade like OPM.
  • It They take years between season and start doing the same bullshit AoT did with its "final season"
  • They don't lock it behind a stupid release schedule, how many people are gonna be pissed if they decide to batch release SBR again like they did with stone ocean
I might put money on Solo Leveling being a lot less talked about when it gets another season (it probably will for better or worse) since it seemed like it already lost some momentum between season 1 and 2, and that was in spite of people who read the manwha trying to hype up that some of the best fights in the series was going to be in season 2, and previous manwha adaptations haven't aged well (anyone remember when Tower of God was the most popular show of the season and was labeled the beginning of gook webtoons taking over anime).
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The higher the animation quality, it's exponentially more probable to be FOTM. Animes that look mediocre/bad yet gained a following are ones to look for.
SandyCat said:
Crimson from Ragna Crimson is carrying the show pretty hard. It's one of the few times I've seen a self-serving manipulative unlikable asshole of a character done right
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I need to keep watching it. The amount of edge in it was 2000's level.
 
Ragna Crimson will most likely never get a second season any time soon considering the anime ends on volume 11 and we are on vol 16 which is still ongoing.
The anime is like 5 years worth of chapters with some things cut.
 
So I'm curious with 4ch/a/n imploding and what day it is today, if any of "us" have "arrived" onto "this" site.
Or where "they" might be "on the move" to.
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Edit: Genuinely the worst time 4chan decided to get hacked because this week's chapter would have been a great thread.
 
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If you want a vision of the future, imagine a naked android backflipping away from you.

Forever.
 
30+GameOvers said:
Funny thing, I originally got on boat to watch the series the first time when the live action movie came out and gave me the excuse to move it up on my backlog. That was in 2017, I forgot why I stopped watching it but I don't think it was due to the show itself, I think something came up around that time. Now history is repeating itself, I've seen this announcement too and remembered about the whole debacle. To my credit, I don't think I have seen any anime since then so it is merely a matter of forgetting, not taking on too many things to watch like I oftentimes do with games.
What are they going to call this one when we already have "The New Movie"? "The Newest Movie"? "The New Movie 2026"?
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From what I've heard I think this is supposed to be a tv series and some people are speculating it's gonna follow more of the original manga (though that might be because it's trying to look more like the manga and people might just be guessing)
Saru has some good will from there adaptation of DanDaDan, but the last time they touched an older series with several already existing anime was Devilman Crybaby, which I remember it being very split between people who liked or hated it to put it lightly.
 
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