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The issue I have with Helck is that having the "demons were peaceful all along" plot development just doesn't make sense in how people in that world behave (on both sides). Also humans as evil is always lazy.
 
Got done with the first episode of Pluto and it was a bit better than I thought it was gonna be. There's a bit of some odd animation here and there and not a big fan of the postprocessing effects they used, but it seems to be a faithful adaptation and they actually handled the North No. 2 mini arc pretty well, which is my first or second favorite part in the manga.
Although I'm starting to see why everyone hates batch releases cause it's probably gonna do no one any favors, especially since these are 60 min long episodes. I'm most likely going finish it over the next weekend or two.

Also one of you better have a YWNBAH template made because it'll come up later for the main villain
 
wtfNeedSignUp said:
The issue I have with Helck is that having the "demons were peaceful all along" plot development just doesn't make sense in how people in that world behave (on both sides). Also humans as evil is always lazy.
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It's interesting to contrast it with Fieren, where Demons are psychopaths devoid of empathy that manipulate humans all the time
 
Some people said the Dagon fight animated in the new JJK ep was shit. I didn't see it, it was fine. I just wanna see more Sukuna.
 
In Undead/Unluck it seems that the night sky never had stars in it? Is that going to be something that's very important to the plot?
 
And now, an out-of-context scene from a shitty obscure manhwa.
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(Son is actually named Simba btw.)
 
Betonhaus said:
In Undead/Unluck it seems that the night sky never had stars in it? Is that going to be something that's very important to the plot?
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Anime-only? The next arc goes into detail about it, Negators negate concepts and UMAs are the concept personified.
 
Can someone explain the appeal of shoujo, josei and romance manga? Im seeing so many guys talking about all the waifus and harem shit, all of which is flying over my head. Im a 90s fag, I like action and shounen shit usually, sometimes horror but Rent a girlfriend seems cute and I want to know whats it about.
 
Betonhaus said:
In Undead/Unluck it seems that the night sky never had stars in it? Is that going to be something that's very important to the plot?
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I'm a manga only reader, best I can tell you is "don't sweat the small stuff" when it comes to Undead/Unluck, the harder you think about the effects of having or losing an Uma would have in realistic terms, everything starts collapsing like a deck of cards, so just go with the flow of it is my suggestion and don't go too deep into it.

Outside of that, it starts pretty mid, but after a while it ramps up and is now my weekly highlight along with OP and Sakamoto Days. What I don't know is if the anime will last long enough to reach the real hype moments, but being David studios, I think they can coast on animating the very imaginative battles of the series.
 
Georgio Cocklord said:
Can someone explain the appeal of shoujo, josei and romance manga? Im seeing so many guys talking about all the waifus and harem shit, all of which is flying over my head. Im a 90s fag, I like action and shounen shit usually, sometimes horror but Rent a girlfriend seems cute and I want to know whats it about.
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Sometimes romance is a nice change of pace when the characters are likable and it goes somewhere. Harem isn't really romance as much as a power fantasy
 
Georgio Cocklord said:
Can someone explain the appeal of shoujo, josei and romance manga? Im seeing so many guys talking about all the waifus and harem shit, all of which is flying over my head. Im a 90s fag, I like action and shounen shit usually, sometimes horror but Rent a girlfriend seems cute and I want to know whats it about.
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Variety is the spice of life as one would say, and liking romance & cute stuff doesn't exclude you from enjoying action or grim stuff either way.
Josei (女性) is defined to be primarily aimed for adult women (as a counterpart of seinen), but the original definition doesn't mean much now as Shonen titles have a huge female userbase for instance. Also the yuri mangas I read do fall under the josei category in general, as they mainly focus on romance/drama.

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However, I don't pay too much mind as the distinctions between genres are easily blurred nowadays. 100 Girlfriends is for example seinen (published in Young Jump Comics) even if it looks like shounen on a first glance, whereas Yagate Kimi ni Naru/Bloom Into You was published in a shounen magazine (Dengeki Daioh) despite it could be labelled as josei.

Come to think though, I wouldn't be surprised if female japanese authors make up a large amount, if not a majority, in mangas I've been enjoying.
 
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Variety is the spice of life as one would say, and liking romance & cute stuff doesn't exclude you from enjoying action or grim stuff either way.
Josei (女性) is defined to be primarily aimed for adult women (as a counterpart of seinen), but the original definition doesn't mean much now as Shonen titles have a huge female userbase for instance. Also the yuri mangas I read do fall under the josei category in general, as they mainly focus on romance/drama.

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However, I don't pay too much mind as the distinctions between genres are easily blurred nowadays. 100 Girlfriends is for example seinen (published in Young Jump Comics) even if it looks like shounen on a first glance, whereas Yagate Kimi ni Naru/Bloom Into You was published in a shounen magazine (Dengeki Daioh) despite it could be labelled as josei.

Come to think though, I wouldn't be surprised if female japanese authors make up a large amount, if not a majority, in mangas I've been enjoying.
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I just want an expanded horizon to be honest, Ive heard so many people talk about the fucked up shit japanese women write in shoujo and josei. There was stuff about a manga where the father beats the daughter and the daughter interprets it as sexual or something. My comfort zone is still shounen and seinen but this is levels of fucked up i cant imagine being written in actual books for sale and I just want to look at it. On the other hand I dont actually like romance shit but its just nice reading good positive women characters for once.
wtfNeedSignUp said:
Sometimes romance is a nice change of pace when the characters are likable and it goes somewhere. Harem isn't really romance as much as a power fantasy
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Yeah again I dont like reading or watching romance shit, feels uncomfortable even if its wholesome, Im just curious as to how japs write a good romance especially positive wholesome characters. Harem really is just a curiosity, people talk about several shoujo tropes and harem tropes, I just want to know what the tropes are.
 
Georgio Cocklord said:
I just want an expanded horizon to be honest, Ive heard so many people talk about the fucked up shit japanese women write in shoujo and josei. There was stuff about a manga where the father beats the daughter and the daughter interprets it as sexual or something. My comfort zone is still shounen and seinen but this is levels of fucked up i cant imagine being written in actual books for sale and I just want to look at it. On the other hand I dont actually like romance shit but its just nice reading good positive women characters for once.
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The batshit/degenerate shit is the minority. Most of romance is the usual coming of age/culture clash that is the norm for pretty much all modern media. I don't get feeling uncomfortable from it unless you try to picture the current you dating someone with a large age gap.

An example of a good romance is Ore Monogatari!!
 
Georgio Cocklord said:
I just want an expanded horizon to be honest, Ive heard so many people talk about the fucked up shit japanese women write in shoujo and josei.
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You are stuck up on shoujo and josei on too hard. They just means the kind of main demographic would like this story and/or the magazine that it was published in.
Expanding horizon to read shoujo and josei, aka girls and women, yet you don't like romance element in story. Wut? I mean....
But you can start with The Apothecary Diaries this season, just for not on that romance as major theme in story and not a dainty princess type female protagonist.

Not sure why you think it's "horrifying" about female authors can write screw up things and just because they are writing the story, it doesn't mean those stories are categorized in shoujo nor josei. Also, why you are acting like "bad things" are making up majority of the whole demographic. I mean you can google and pretty much top results are pretty safe like good old Fruit Basket.
But I'm getting the feeling you're forcing yourself to read rather than picking something up because of some interests in art style and summary.
Also, fictional works, don't take them too seriously.

This is my biased observation, usually in an romance or romcom anime/manga story written by female authors, they are very likely to have multiple couples throughout the story in highschool or working place/office settings. In fictional medieval time or fantasy, it's more likely a singular between heroine and her love interest, or love triangle at most.
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Honeyworks stuffs, unironically two different anime, each focuses on different main couples, despite sharing same cast.
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More of comedy and not really in shoujo-josei.
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Manga only, Usotsuki Lily
that much couples in an entire story for the first one.
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Single or mostly just on the main.
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I really like the design of the HAVWCs in the FLAG anime. I like how they can transform seamlessly from tank to walker, yet are also very realistic in doing so. They even lack heads, instead having the cockpit directly attached to the legs, because a head would be a weak point in combat.

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Georgio Cocklord said:
Can someone explain the appeal of shoujo, josei and romance manga? Im seeing so many guys talking about all the waifus and harem shit, all of which is flying over my head. Im a 90s fag, I like action and shounen shit usually, sometimes horror but Rent a girlfriend seems cute and I want to know whats it about.
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When it comes to shoujo and josei, I prefer magical girl stories because they tend to be sweet and wholesome children's stories with some deeper themes occasionally. I personally enjoy Precure, Fun Fun Pharmacy, Minky Momo, and Petite Princess Yucie. I also like that shoujo stuff tends to avoid fanservice.

I liked the Utena movie for its crazy surrealism, but it was still a bit too sexual for me. I couldn't get through the World of the S and M manga because there were so many sex scenes all just by the second chapter. I know people say Cardcaptor Sakura and Sailor Moon have problematic elements, but from what I understand Cardcaptor Sakura was telling the events as a child would perceive them. Nothing in Sailor Moon struck me as particularly creepy; I don't think it was trying to normalize incest or pedophilia or bestiality or whatever but was just doing typical fairytale and mythology stuff.

I'm not a big romance fan, but I did enjoy Kare Kano. It has a good soundtrack, and it can get very humourous at times. It has an excellent atmosphere and feels very comfortable and lived-in.


 
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