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I hope SBR never gets an adaptation, and that the JoJo anime stops. First off, Netflix and David Production would be fucking trashing it with mass release dates and shoddy animation.
But my biggest reason is the fans. They're totally gonna misunderstand what made it good, and further sexualize the mentor-like relationship between Johnny and Gyro. They don't realize that a man trying to help a disabled man regain his confidence and use a whacky anime power isn't fucking sexual at all. Both Johnny and Gyro were shown having sex with multiple women lol
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Commander X said:
It's a shame there's been no American releases of the live action Patlabor series, with direction by Mamoru Oshii (quite a bit of the series, and then the movie), music by Kenji Kawaii, and action choreography by Kensuke Sonomura, who in recent years has gotten into directing films himself:


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Most of the live action adaptations coming of Japan are pretty trash as well and should only be recommended for hardcore fans. There are very few good ones like the golgo 13 live action film, the lone wolf and cub live action films and the doberman cop movie. Others including the recent shin adaptations from Anno range from mediocre to bad, especially the Kerberos panzer squad movie, I really like jin roh and the live action was really bad.
Gensokyan Femcel said:
I hope SBR never gets an adaptation, and that the JoJo anime stops. First off, Netflix and David Production would be fucking trashing it with mass release dates and shoddy animation.
But my biggest reason is the fans. They're totally gonna misunderstand what made it good, and further sexualize the mentor-like relationship between Johnny and Gyro. They don't realize that a man trying to help a disabled man regain his confidence and use a whacky anime power isn't fucking sexual at all. Both Johnny and Gyro were shown having sex with multiple women lol
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Jojo was always meant to be fujo bait, never take the fans especially the retarded western fans seriously. "It's only ironically homosexual, it's actually homiesexual" No it's just fucking gay.
 
Gensokyan Femcel said:
I hope SBR never gets an adaptation, and that the JoJo anime stops. First off, Netflix and David Production would be fucking trashing it with mass release dates and shoddy animation.
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It’s infuriating how much Netflix’s binge-oriented release model kills any opportunities for discussion. I already wasn’t enthused by the Stone Ocean adaptation, but I’d all least planned to hang out in discussion threads, maybe watch a few episodes when it hits a part I’m fond of. None of that happened, of course, and then you were just left with months of waiting between releases.

SBR is my favourite part, but I have little hope of it being well adapted. The pacing issues were already going to be a problem when moving to a slower medium, not to mention the inevitable use of CGI animals...

To be fair, though, most anime adaptations aren’t worth watching if you’ve already read the manga. They can’t just be average, there needs to be a really strong draw to make the investment worthwhile, doubly so if the manga itself is already visually impressive. A Berserk anime, for instance, will never be able to truly capture Miura’s art - it’s just not feasible in motion - and something like Witch Hat Atelier, with its masterful panelling, could never be adapted without losing a core part of its identity.
 
Georgio Cocklord said:
Jojo was always meant to be fujo bait, never take the fans especially the retarded western fans seriously. "It's only ironically homosexual, it's actually homiesexual" No it's just fucking gay.
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Absolute lunacy. JoJo started at out a generic vampire story written by a guy who likes high fashion magazines, but it got whackier as time went on. It's literally in the title.
Tarka Dhal said:
SBR is my favourite part, but I have little hope of it being well adapted. The pacing issues were already going to be a problem when moving to a slower medium, not to mention the inevitable use of CGI animals...
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People saying "MAPPA SBR" are coping

Also, I realized it wouldn't make sense for a studio to adapt SBR and the new JoJo parts now. Imagine they animate Part 7 a few years from now, Jojolion a couple years later, and then...they'll have to wait a whole fucking decade for part 9 to release (I've given up on reading it already it's shit, hopefully I'm wrong)
 
Gensokyan Femcel said:
Also, I realized it wouldn't make sense for a studio to adapt SBR and the new JoJo parts now.
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At least SBR has a fanbase that might want to see it animated. Nobody wants Jojolion, and, yeah, once that’s done there’s little material to adapt as the anime catches up to the manga. People probably don’t realise how long it went on for before the anime started airing.

Maybe we might get some side stories, like the Rohan stuff. I wouldn’t mind seeing Crazy Diamond’s Demonic Heartbreak animated, but that’s mainly because it’s a fanservice crossover manga.

Registration said:
The anime that americans shouldn't watch was announced, the staff looks alright until you see the writer... Ichiro Okouchi... Fucking monkey paw
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Fukuda directing... Oh dear. I wonder if the ending will be as much of a mess as Shin Mazinger’s cliffhanger.
 
Tarka Dhal said:
At least SBR has a fanbase that might want to see it animated. Nobody wants Jojolion, and, yeah, once that’s done there’s little material to adapt as the anime catches up to the manga. People probably don’t realise how long it went on for before the anime started airing.

Maybe we might get some side stories, like the Rohan stuff. I wouldn’t mind seeing Crazy Diamond’s Demonic Heartbreak animated, but that’s mainly because it’s a fanservice crossover manga.


Fukuda directing... Oh dear. I wonder if the ending will be as much of a mess as Shin Mazinger’s cliffhanger.
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Shin mazinger z ending was fine, I really love that ending and how it mirroed the original ending
 
Tarka Dhal said:
Maybe we might get some side stories, like the Rohan stuff. I wouldn’t mind seeing Crazy Diamond’s Demonic Heartbreak animated, but that’s mainly because it’s a fanservice crossover manga.
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Jorge Joestar Anime when
 
Registration said:
The anime that americans shouldn't watch was announced, the staff looks alright until you see the writer... Ichiro Okouchi... Fucking monkey paw

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This is a euro/latin/arab/japanese alliance show, so fuck off americans
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I'm super excited for this. Gear Fighter Dendoh is one of my favourite mecha anime, so I trust that Fukuda knows how to make a good super robot show. It's also nice seeing that Sadamoto and Gaina are involved.
 
oh yeah I remember that lol. Gyro also slept with his female patients too.
It's kinda funny how jojo fans will make gay ships and people call JoJo gay despite 1/2 of the JoJos being married with children lol
the ultimate metrosexual anime
Lone Star said:
If I recall right, Johnny even had a threesome with a pair of sisters, right? It's especially funny to remember he's the counterpart to Jonathan Joestar of all people.
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Tarka Dhal said:
To be fair, though, most anime adaptations aren’t worth watching if you’ve already read the manga. They can’t just be average, there needs to be a really strong draw to make the investment worthwhile, doubly so if the manga itself is already visually impressive. A Berserk anime, for instance, will never be able to truly capture Miura’s art - it’s just not feasible in motion - and something like Witch Hat Atelier, with its masterful panelling, could never be adapted without losing a core part of its identity.
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dunno, I like anime more than manga. and I say that as someone who grew up reading lots of stuff.
there's just another dimension seeing the characters in motion etc.

I wouldn't say one is better than the other, but they usually compliment each other, but also not so much you need to be read/watch both (unless the adaption fucked up). otoh most anime are just an advertisement for the original work that stops after the first season, so....
 
ZMOT said:
I wouldn't say one is better than the other, but they usually compliment each other
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I don’t think that one is better, but I personally don’t tend to watch adaptations of manga that I’ve already read. There is the upcoming Dungeon Meshi anime, though, and I do plan on watching that, although a big part of that is because I’m really fond of Studio Trigger.

Come to think, I don’t like reading the manga when I’ve started with an anime, either. Which makes the whole adaptation as advert thing rather frustrating.
 
ZMOT said:
otoh most anime are just an advertisement for the original work that stops after the first season, so....
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That's why I don't watch most anime nowadays, especially light novel adaptations, even if they are good. Very few will ever fully adapt the work they are supposed to be adapting, defeating the point of making an adaptation. If its not a long running Shonen series, its chances of getting a full adaptation are slim. Sadly, anime-first series are not necessarily better off, as they may not get a satisfying ending, especially if they aren't made with the idea of finishing in a single season, but don't have a second season guaranteed. The only exception is the series I'm following, Mushoku Tensei. The studio behind that was founded with the explicit purpose of adapting that series, and have committed to finishing it.

Frankly, I think anime has just reached the point of market oversaturation. Too much anime is being made by too many studios, and the vast majority is made to appeal to the lowest common denominator. Nobody wants to put in the time and effort to actually fully adapt a long running series unless its a Shonen with a large amount of success, nor does anyone want to back an original property over the long term. Every studio is just pushing to work on as many low effort otaku pandering projects as possible and shit them out as fast as possible. We'll probably never get, just as one example, full adaptation of Vampire Hunter D, despite the novel series enduring popularity, or a modern adaptation of Violence Jack. I was freaking surprised when Parasyte got adapted, considering how the original manga came out in the 80s. Devilman only got a new series because Neflix produced it.
 
The Demon Pimp of Razgriz said:
Frankly, I think anime has just reached the point of market oversaturation. Too much anime is being made by too many studios, and the vast majority is made to appeal to the lowest common denominator.
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I agree with this sentiment - scrolling through countless isekai slop when checking out a new season’s releases is a grim experience. But I think that a lot of this is down to the 80-20 rule that 80% of all media is shit, and of the remaining 20% only a portion of that is truly great. It’s easy to look back at the classics and lament a better time, but you’re also forgetting much of that era’s 80% which didn’t stand the test of time.
 
The Demon Pimp of Razgriz said:
Frankly, I think anime has just reached the point of market oversaturation
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I dunno, watching seasonal anime for the last 15 years, it doesn't feel like there are more anime than before. And while Isekai is bad, it was just as bad as "that ordinary looking 16 year old joins a special school and everybody discovers he is the best at fighting despite having supposedly zero aptitude" anime. And I especially prefer it to the western alternative of like 5 big studios drip feeding increasingly worse product that is designed entirely around nostalgia.
 
wtfNeedSignUp said:
I dunno, watching seasonal anime for the last 15 years, it doesn't feel like there are more anime than before. And while Isekai is bad, it was just as bad as "that ordinary looking 16 year old joins a special school and everybody discovers he is the best at fighting despite having supposedly zero aptitude" anime. And I especially prefer it to the western alternative of like 5 big studios drip feeding increasingly worse product that is designed entirely around nostalgia.
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You also forgot to mention the part about how western studios are getting less and less subtle with their political ideal pushes.

Come to think of it, if you compare the worst anime ever released, to the worst western cartoons ever released, which would have done it the worse? As an example, what would be the anime version of Velma, or Kevin Smith's He-Man adaptation?
 
Tarka Dhal said:
To be fair, though, most anime adaptations aren’t worth watching if you’ve already read the manga. They can’t just be average, there needs to be a really strong draw to make the investment worthwhile, doubly so if the manga itself is already visually impressive. A Berserk anime, for instance, will never be able to truly capture Miura’s art - it’s just not feasible in motion - and something like Witch Hat Atelier, with its masterful panelling, could never be adapted without losing a core part of its identity.
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My pet peeve about modern anime is that they censor stuff that is otherwise completely fine to appear in the published mangas, between nudity, violence or disturbing themes.
For example, even if it's drawn as a lighthearted joke in the manga, the anime of BokuYaba can't have the MC's autistic violent delusions or him calling someone a bitch (the insult is replaced by "kuso onna" in the first anime episode).

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