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The most notable stuff that was never covered in either show was that the manga went more in-depth on the soldiers' experiences in Ishval, and there were some scenes from the end that did not get adapted.
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It's from Aka Akasaka, it's confirmed to turn bad at some point. We actually talked about this in the thread before as to where it turns to shit, & I think this 1st season would be good, it's what comes later which might be shit. I can give you spoiler if you want.
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After reading the first vol I don't even know what this is about. Thriller mixed with idol/acting shit?
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It's apparently many things, a murder mystery, a rom-com, supernatural shonen, & also a way through which Aka trying to "redpill" people about the industry. Except it doesn't really work cause people already know about it.
It fails spectacularly after a while in those aspects.
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I distinctly recall in the manga before they met General Armstrong, the brothers had this one little bonding moment over Al wanting to eat apple pie when asked what he wants the most out of becoming human again. To which Ed decides to be a little shit and laugh at him and give him a hard time. No idea why that didn't make it in. Didn't advance the plot, but it was a cute moment.
Speaking as someone who grew up with and started with the 03 adaptation and then followed the manga all the way to its end, I kinda have to give it to Brotherhood for the most part. I don't know, I recall the ending being really emotionally satisfying. While I did like 03's approach to things, seeing Ed and Winry finally get together at the end after all the bullshit they went through made me smile.
Only thing I can say that 03 did better was how everything involving Nina was approached as well as the music. Mix those two things together with Brotherhood and I'm content.
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I've figured I've spoilered myself pretty thoroughly enough on the series by this point, which is why I'm calling it pure misery wank based on the manga spoilers I've looked into.
But if you want to give further details, feel free.
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I was going to ignore Oshi no ko thinking it was just going to be generic idolshit but with an isekai twist until I happened to see the big spoiler and figured I'd give it a try. While it's more interesting than I had first expected, I do get the impression it's already overhyped much like Spy x family was.
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I'm pretty sure anyone only remembers Conqueror of Shamballa because of that Hitler subplot, also wasn't the person who wrote it behind making Angel Cop?
I mean, it's not the 1st time Japan sucked at adapting their own works. Look at the Death Note movies, JoJo, Attack on Titan (okay it was shit to begin with, but still), Gantz, and Lupin the 3rd.
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I went into Spy x Family recently with no expectations and ended up thoroughly entertained by it, but a lot of its fan media is incredibly overhyped and just wish fulfillment.
Can't say OnK is tracking anywhere near the same from a personal standpoint after my limited exposure from looking into it, but considering people already seem to be overhyping the anime, this is definitely the case. I'm actually a bit surprised more people aren't drawn away due to some of the weirdness of its premise and setup.
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I'm pretty sure that's in at least one o the anime adaptions. I never read the manga but I know exactly what you're talking about. He even has a little book he wrote stuff down in he wants to eat.
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Oshi no ko is clearly the work of marketing, but after watching the first 90 mins I'm more puzzled by the (lack of) internal coherency. It's a typical case of a work that gets weaker and weaker the more you think about it.
Let's go for the easy targets: the entire reincarnation plot is complete gibberish and stupid, with an obvious underlying current of sleaze. There's no real narrative reason to make the protagonist a reincarnating gynecologist bar cheap drama and anime writing. Setup is poor, and the fact that he has a blessed childhood because he has the skillset of a grown man in a child's body is the usual cringe. As the writer, you can't ask me to take seriously the drama with reincarnation gibberish, it's clear death has no meaning in this world. Poor worldbuilding.
Graphic design is likewise poor: I can't take seriously a character with deformed STARRY eyes in a pseudo-realistic setting. It simply takes me out of the story.
The main problem is , I'd say, Ai Hoshino herself. Of course, she's a orphan, of course, she's a Perfect Idol. And the narrative is utterly schizophrenic, with a single scene (where all the staff is grumbling how tired and repetitive idolcrap is) that can be built as critique but of course everyone is instantly smitten by the her utter perfection. The blabbering about lies and identity doesn't make sense when she is a perfect little doll loved by everyone. She manages her Perfect Idol Mom role thanks to the selfless sacrifice of the woman manager (that will never have a family of her own, having sacrificed everything for the Idol Perfection, but who cares). She's such a soulless little broken doll: even after the stabbing she keeps spouting idolshit to her own killer, like a good automaton. If she thinks they're all lies, for sure she died maintaining the facade to the last.
Perfect Blue it ain't.
Let's go for the easy targets: the entire reincarnation plot is complete gibberish and stupid, with an obvious underlying current of sleaze. There's no real narrative reason to make the protagonist a reincarnating gynecologist bar cheap drama and anime writing. Setup is poor, and the fact that he has a blessed childhood because he has the skillset of a grown man in a child's body is the usual cringe. As the writer, you can't ask me to take seriously the drama with reincarnation gibberish, it's clear death has no meaning in this world. Poor worldbuilding.
Graphic design is likewise poor: I can't take seriously a character with deformed STARRY eyes in a pseudo-realistic setting. It simply takes me out of the story.
The main problem is , I'd say, Ai Hoshino herself. Of course, she's a orphan, of course, she's a Perfect Idol. And the narrative is utterly schizophrenic, with a single scene (where all the staff is grumbling how tired and repetitive idolcrap is) that can be built as critique but of course everyone is instantly smitten by the her utter perfection. The blabbering about lies and identity doesn't make sense when she is a perfect little doll loved by everyone. She manages her Perfect Idol Mom role thanks to the selfless sacrifice of the woman manager (that will never have a family of her own, having sacrificed everything for the Idol Perfection, but who cares). She's such a soulless little broken doll: even after the stabbing she keeps spouting idolshit to her own killer, like a good automaton. If she thinks they're all lies, for sure she died maintaining the facade to the last.
Perfect Blue it ain't.
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any Mazinger Z fans here? I'm wondering basically what "Mazinger Edition Z: The Impact!" is--apparently its not in continuity but it isn't exactly a remake either.
Also wondering if I should go ahead and watch it or watch the original Mazinger Z anime first. Right now my Mazin experience is limited to Mazinkaiser and the Sega Genesis game Mazin Saga Mutant Fighter (which somehow got a US release), but I did find and read a bit of the Mazinger Z manga.
Also wondering if I should go ahead and watch it or watch the original Mazinger Z anime first. Right now my Mazin experience is limited to Mazinkaiser and the Sega Genesis game Mazin Saga Mutant Fighter (which somehow got a US release), but I did find and read a bit of the Mazinger Z manga.
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He only wrote the first episode.
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You probably read through the spoilers enough to know you're in for, but I'll give you the most info I can on this.
Warning, it'll be pretty long & autistic.
It's got the same issue as other Aka stories like Infinite Bullet & Kaguya-sama, which shows Aka's issue in general. He doesn't know how to continue or end a series. That, combined with his preachy idealistic moralfagging (gotten worse after his divorce) & lack on focus on the multiple premises he created & genres he wanted to get into, fucks this manga, & the 2nd half of Kaguya-sama alongside it a lot. I'm including this because it's set in the same timeline as Kaguya-sama, except many years later, like 2030's.
TL;DR - Aka Akasaka is a lolcow & it affects this manga.
I'm gonna start with what you're getting from now on. Like, the very 1st episode onwards. The entire 1st episode might as well be thrown out the goddamn window because that entire premise is basically ignored for most of the story in favor of a really garbage romance with garbage characters, while Aqua turns into a complete joke that loses all his edge as he devolves into more & more of a Kana simp. It won't even like you should give a fuck about their father at this point because it's clear Kana is always going to be No.1 & the entire plot of reincarnation, celebrities, murder mystery, rage over their mother's death & so on is going to be constantly fucking sidelined for this one shitty character. Up until the 2.5D Stage Play arc (Theater Namek), she is actually tolerable but at that point & onward you can seriously feel the fucking Kana simping going out of control, mainly due to the length of the arc. There's a brief point where the manga gets good when Ruby is in focus & Kana is nowhere to be seen but once that mini-arc is over it goes back to shit with the Aqua-Kana relationship taking the focus again & again.
Before beginning of what'll be adapted in S2, I'd like to tell you what arcs S1 will adapt.
1. Prologue (1-10) (already adapted in EP1)
2. Entertainment World (11-20) (EP2 onwards)
3. Dating Reality Show (21-32)
4. The First Concert (33-40)
Now here's what'll be adapted in S2:
So what are you getting in this series now? Well, it scatters in the premises it creates. Having multiple genres is never a bad thing. Hell, one who does it right becomes a master creator in a way. Aka doesn't do it right. The series itself starts with multiple premises.
>Idol
>Rebirth
>Parenting Idol
>Murder Mystery
This later also has Rom-com, Love-triangle, Satire & some other things added into it. Really, the crux is a murder mystery with a ton of little reveals that's set within idol industries (including also general v-tuber shit for some reason) within the 1st 30 chapters. It doesn't really address stuff like family ties until later on in the manga, we're talking almost 70 chapters in. It leans a little hard into idol stuff & love triangles between the mid-chapters. The manga kind of trails off, worse than Kaguya in that respect.
So how does it fuck all those premises & genres? Here's how:
TL;DR - Aka Akasaka is a lolcow & it affects this manga.
I'm gonna start with what you're getting from now on. Like, the very 1st episode onwards. The entire 1st episode might as well be thrown out the goddamn window because that entire premise is basically ignored for most of the story in favor of a really garbage romance with garbage characters, while Aqua turns into a complete joke that loses all his edge as he devolves into more & more of a Kana simp. It won't even like you should give a fuck about their father at this point because it's clear Kana is always going to be No.1 & the entire plot of reincarnation, celebrities, murder mystery, rage over their mother's death & so on is going to be constantly fucking sidelined for this one shitty character. Up until the 2.5D Stage Play arc (Theater Namek), she is actually tolerable but at that point & onward you can seriously feel the fucking Kana simping going out of control, mainly due to the length of the arc. There's a brief point where the manga gets good when Ruby is in focus & Kana is nowhere to be seen but once that mini-arc is over it goes back to shit with the Aqua-Kana relationship taking the focus again & again.
Before beginning of what'll be adapted in S2, I'd like to tell you what arcs S1 will adapt.
1. Prologue (1-10) (already adapted in EP1)
2. Entertainment World (11-20) (EP2 onwards)
3. Dating Reality Show (21-32)
4. The First Concert (33-40)
Now here's what'll be adapted in S2:
2.5D Stage Play Arc (41-66), aka Tokyo Blade Arc, or if you wanna call it what it really is, Theater Namek, is a 26 chapters (3 volumes) long arc, which has no right or need being that long. Just like Ice Kaguya Arc, it's not as bad when you binge it, but also just like Iceguya Arc, it's hell for weekly readers. Aka was basically taking breaks to play Apex Legends & shit, resulting in a lot of hiatuses. Getting a chapter every once in 2 weeks makes a long arc, even longer.
This arc was pretty much made to compete with Act Age's popularity, after it got discontinued, pretty much every chapter you were getting boring info-dump on theater world, which was actually kind of interesting seeing the dynamic between writers adapting works, & the little info-blurbs on entertainment stuff was nice to read, but those were the TL group's additions, & I think they stopped because "Viz support the English release the Commiefornians grace you with" bullshit.
That, or you were getting another reminder how great Kana is because Kana getting shilled is another issue with this arc & to an extent, this series for a while, until Scandal Arc happens, after which Ruby goes through this issue.
It's considered to be the arc where the decline of the manga begins, but it somewhat holds it together somehow. It's the ending of the Private Arc that is considered to be the point of no return.
Technically speaking, despite having a lot of chapters, many spreads & little dialogue during the ACTING pages/panels, could probably be done in like 7 episodes. However, they'd probably need a 13-episode season (or an extended episode here & there) to hit chapter 80 by the end. Keep in mind, S1 will adapt 40 chapters only because it's equivalent to 14 episodes of material.
This arc was pretty much made to compete with Act Age's popularity, after it got discontinued, pretty much every chapter you were getting boring info-dump on theater world, which was actually kind of interesting seeing the dynamic between writers adapting works, & the little info-blurbs on entertainment stuff was nice to read, but those were the TL group's additions, & I think they stopped because "Viz support the English release the Commiefornians grace you with" bullshit.
That, or you were getting another reminder how great Kana is because Kana getting shilled is another issue with this arc & to an extent, this series for a while, until Scandal Arc happens, after which Ruby goes through this issue.
It's considered to be the arc where the decline of the manga begins, but it somewhat holds it together somehow. It's the ending of the Private Arc that is considered to be the point of no return.
Technically speaking, despite having a lot of chapters, many spreads & little dialogue during the ACTING pages/panels, could probably be done in like 7 episodes. However, they'd probably need a 13-episode season (or an extended episode here & there) to hit chapter 80 by the end. Keep in mind, S1 will adapt 40 chapters only because it's equivalent to 14 episodes of material.
The Private Arc (67-80), is basically RRR. No, not the Indian kino from last year, The Ruby Relevance Rejuvenation Arc. The whole thing literally exists just so that Ruby, the supposed FeMC of this series, can stop being irrelevant.
The arc itself isn't the main issue, it's the ending of it followed by its result which is annoying. Here's a cliff notes version:
>B-Komachi makes a music video, which incidentally in the town of Miyazaki where the twins were born.
>Chapter 79 (Arc ends at CH.80).
>Ruby & Akane found MC's old deadbody.
>Crow Loli God shows up (she guided them there).
>"Perhaps, there's a deeper meaning to that" (said in the manga itself by her).
>Gives Ruby a walkthrough about what the fuck the murder plot is about in a literal deus ex machina, surpassing Akane.
>Never Referenced Again.
>BTW, let's forget about the revenge plot again & talk about Kana & Cosplayers for the next 40 chapters.
The Private Arc is an arc literally made so Ruby can finally become relevant, a literal Crow Loli God gives her the walkthrough of the series, No seriously, the story had to make GOD force Ruby back into the story by info-dumping the story into her brain because she had literally faded out into being the background character for over half the story by that time. I don't need to say it out now why it's bad in a mystery story to lay out the whole mystery in a single chapter, right?
You'd expect the twins were going to get closer, find the doctor's corpse & sneak into the hospital to use their camera footage to look for clues on their mom's stalker who knew her real name, but instead the writer went full retard with the deus ex machina child. Also, Aqua the borderline siscon doesn't even bother see why his sister is so off (sus, if you will) since then.
Oh yeah, one of the parts of this seethe Ruby has now is also due to the actual Sarina in her having a crush on Goro (Aqua). She was planning to seduce him & shit before finding out his carcass.
The result of this arc is now Ruby is asspulled into the story & turned into Sasuke with a Double Mangekyou Sharingan & has the same edgelord bullshit as Aqua, this bitch is fucking Itachi with her crow shit. Before it was just trying to be another rom-com with a retarded love-triangle (Aka not learning from Kaguya-sama) with teen actors. What's even worse is, Despite vowing for vengeance, she doesn't actually do that. Ruby says she'll silently wait for onii-chan to figure out their revenge (doesn't know he kinda gave up already).
One more thing, that mastermind, the father? He showed up in this arc, on CH.72. Here's how it went:
Yura Katayose, Japan's No.1 Actress, goes to a VIP bar with a friend of hers to grumble about a new gig she received where she'll be working with Aqua to portray a high-schooler. The friend has braided blonde hair (or a ponytail) & small eyes. The actress is complaining about how she doesn't want to portray a high-schooler at the age of 25 as she feels like she's way too old for the role. She figures that they gave her the gig to take advantage of her popularity & says they should've gotten an actual cute high-schooler instead. The friend listens to the actress's complaints & brings up Ruby in their conversation amongst other topics. The conversation eventually circles around to the topic of dreams, & it's revealed that the actress has a star in one of her eyes. The actress dreams of becoming an actor who will go down in history as one of the greats, with the friend acknowledging the actress's talent. When the actress mentions that she's going for a hike in the mountains next week the friend tells the actress to be careful.
Chapter cuts to a scene where the actress is barely clinging to life after a nasty fall, with the friend smiling on the side. The friend reminds her that he warned her to watch her step, & muses about how all the talent & popularity in the world couldn't save her from dying at his feet. The friend lets his hair down to reveal his identity as Hikaru Kamiki. The actress manages to gasp out a few lasts words ("Murderer......") before she takes her last breath.
Kamiki rants about how, by extinguishing the life of a talented actress, he's improving his own worth in life. Kamiki is noted to have a dark star in each of his eyes.
So, the father's a serial killer now who hunts down his bastard rape-children.
The arc itself isn't the main issue, it's the ending of it followed by its result which is annoying. Here's a cliff notes version:
>B-Komachi makes a music video, which incidentally in the town of Miyazaki where the twins were born.
>Chapter 79 (Arc ends at CH.80).
>Ruby & Akane found MC's old deadbody.
>Crow Loli God shows up (she guided them there).
>"Perhaps, there's a deeper meaning to that" (said in the manga itself by her).
>Gives Ruby a walkthrough about what the fuck the murder plot is about in a literal deus ex machina, surpassing Akane.
>Never Referenced Again.
>BTW, let's forget about the revenge plot again & talk about Kana & Cosplayers for the next 40 chapters.
The Private Arc is an arc literally made so Ruby can finally become relevant, a literal Crow Loli God gives her the walkthrough of the series, No seriously, the story had to make GOD force Ruby back into the story by info-dumping the story into her brain because she had literally faded out into being the background character for over half the story by that time. I don't need to say it out now why it's bad in a mystery story to lay out the whole mystery in a single chapter, right?
You'd expect the twins were going to get closer, find the doctor's corpse & sneak into the hospital to use their camera footage to look for clues on their mom's stalker who knew her real name, but instead the writer went full retard with the deus ex machina child. Also, Aqua the borderline siscon doesn't even bother see why his sister is so off (sus, if you will) since then.
Oh yeah, one of the parts of this seethe Ruby has now is also due to the actual Sarina in her having a crush on Goro (Aqua). She was planning to seduce him & shit before finding out his carcass.
The result of this arc is now Ruby is asspulled into the story & turned into Sasuke with a Double Mangekyou Sharingan & has the same edgelord bullshit as Aqua, this bitch is fucking Itachi with her crow shit. Before it was just trying to be another rom-com with a retarded love-triangle (Aka not learning from Kaguya-sama) with teen actors. What's even worse is, Despite vowing for vengeance, she doesn't actually do that. Ruby says she'll silently wait for onii-chan to figure out their revenge (doesn't know he kinda gave up already).
One more thing, that mastermind, the father? He showed up in this arc, on CH.72. Here's how it went:
Yura Katayose, Japan's No.1 Actress, goes to a VIP bar with a friend of hers to grumble about a new gig she received where she'll be working with Aqua to portray a high-schooler. The friend has braided blonde hair (or a ponytail) & small eyes. The actress is complaining about how she doesn't want to portray a high-schooler at the age of 25 as she feels like she's way too old for the role. She figures that they gave her the gig to take advantage of her popularity & says they should've gotten an actual cute high-schooler instead. The friend listens to the actress's complaints & brings up Ruby in their conversation amongst other topics. The conversation eventually circles around to the topic of dreams, & it's revealed that the actress has a star in one of her eyes. The actress dreams of becoming an actor who will go down in history as one of the greats, with the friend acknowledging the actress's talent. When the actress mentions that she's going for a hike in the mountains next week the friend tells the actress to be careful.
Chapter cuts to a scene where the actress is barely clinging to life after a nasty fall, with the friend smiling on the side. The friend reminds her that he warned her to watch her step, & muses about how all the talent & popularity in the world couldn't save her from dying at his feet. The friend lets his hair down to reveal his identity as Hikaru Kamiki. The actress manages to gasp out a few lasts words ("Murderer......") before she takes her last breath.
Kamiki rants about how, by extinguishing the life of a talented actress, he's improving his own worth in life. Kamiki is noted to have a dark star in each of his eyes.
So, the father's a serial killer now who hunts down his bastard rape-children.
The Main Story Arc, has many other names such as The Cosplay Arc, The Ruby Arc, Dark Ruby Arc, Darth Ruby Arc, & Ruby Cosplay Arc. It is where Ruby goes full edge, except even worse than Aqua. She's so unlikeable that you'd probably think she was set up to be a villain. In fact, that actually became a theory now.
She basically becomes a popular idol through scheming. However, we just timeskip a lot so it felt rushed, because we didn't really see Ruby's growth & just were told that Ruby became very popular, without seeing her road to this popularity.
As said before, she's a fucking cunt in this arc. She's being an inconsiderate daughter by overworking the fuck out of Miyako, who would've probably collapsed & edge Ruby wouldn't even have given a shit about it.
She's also really cringe at times to the point where Aka changed her personality around 3x times during this arc. If there's one credit to be given to her, it's that she actually feels pissed off, & on a warpath of revenge. Aqua just feels really chuunibyou in comparison.
I'd like to say one thing more, it has a lot of usual Aka preaching &, usual ranting (bitching, even). It bitches about cosplayers business, it bitches about fucking V-tubers, by randomly shoe-horning an unnecessary V-tuber character. Mind you, he has pathetically simped for v-tubers, has gotten one to draw in his new manga (his way of flirting). It doesn't effect the the actual arc, there was no reason to add that bit at all.
It also has Aka ranting about social media, comparing it to witch trials as seen in CH.93.
It was nice having Ruby as that one nice innocent star in the story who was gonna do everything she could to make it the right way, not lying like Ai did. Now she's like all the rest & miserable.
She basically becomes a popular idol through scheming. However, we just timeskip a lot so it felt rushed, because we didn't really see Ruby's growth & just were told that Ruby became very popular, without seeing her road to this popularity.
As said before, she's a fucking cunt in this arc. She's being an inconsiderate daughter by overworking the fuck out of Miyako, who would've probably collapsed & edge Ruby wouldn't even have given a shit about it.
She's also really cringe at times to the point where Aka changed her personality around 3x times during this arc. If there's one credit to be given to her, it's that she actually feels pissed off, & on a warpath of revenge. Aqua just feels really chuunibyou in comparison.
I'd like to say one thing more, it has a lot of usual Aka preaching &, usual ranting (bitching, even). It bitches about cosplayers business, it bitches about fucking V-tubers, by randomly shoe-horning an unnecessary V-tuber character. Mind you, he has pathetically simped for v-tubers, has gotten one to draw in his new manga (his way of flirting). It doesn't effect the the actual arc, there was no reason to add that bit at all.
It also has Aka ranting about social media, comparing it to witch trials as seen in CH.93.
It was nice having Ruby as that one nice innocent star in the story who was gonna do everything she could to make it the right way, not lying like Ai did. Now she's like all the rest & miserable.
The Scandal Arc (101-10
is where Aka basically gave Kana an arc that divided the fanbase. If you ever heard of the "Japanese fans/fanbase/Nips are not happy" copypasta, this arc turned it into reality, even moreso than Kaguya.
Aka wanted to make an scandal with Kana selling herself to a big shot & has fucked other actresses & idols before but it just so happens he backs off because she says she likes someone else & he says it's was just a prank sis, for a role in a movie who is a womaniser while having the siblings growing out by living & dealing with an scandal that isn't uncommon in the industry. Now Kana is seen entering his office, which leads to a sex-scandal.
Aqua saves her by revealing to the the media about the truth of him & Ruby being the children of Ai.
I think Aka had no idea how this would blow up & had to damage control the arc by crashing it in 2 chapters with Aqua saving Kana's sorry-ass for the Nth time by revealing he & Ruby are Ai's children to the media & at the end, many people still hate her.
Hiroyuki Nishimura, aka Hiromoot, the guy behind 2chan (Japanese 4chan) was in CH.106. Alongside, Mengo referring Chainsaw Man as Top 3 trending after this news breaks out. This is not Aka ranting, this is just a reference. Hiromoot has been parodied in lots of things. He's basically an internet celebrity in Japan since he was the owner of their old BBS 2ch.
We basically got a shitty Kana NTR arc whose only purpose is to move the plot forward by having Aqua start a movie. This arc surpassed bad, it literally made people drop the manga. The sales went down bad, from 150k+ to 100k. I'm talking about the Japanese side here, no one cares for the Western ones. Tho the fandom division was in the West too.
Since then, Ruby's job is now Kana's job. She pretty plainly got the cynical to honest plot down, rejected casting couch & mediocre acting for love, literally became Aqua's light, & all.
is where Aka basically gave Kana an arc that divided the fanbase. If you ever heard of the "Japanese fans/fanbase/Nips are not happy" copypasta, this arc turned it into reality, even moreso than Kaguya.Aka wanted to make an scandal with Kana selling herself to a big shot & has fucked other actresses & idols before but it just so happens he backs off because she says she likes someone else & he says it's was just a prank sis, for a role in a movie who is a womaniser while having the siblings growing out by living & dealing with an scandal that isn't uncommon in the industry. Now Kana is seen entering his office, which leads to a sex-scandal.
Aqua saves her by revealing to the the media about the truth of him & Ruby being the children of Ai.
I think Aka had no idea how this would blow up & had to damage control the arc by crashing it in 2 chapters with Aqua saving Kana's sorry-ass for the Nth time by revealing he & Ruby are Ai's children to the media & at the end, many people still hate her.
Hiroyuki Nishimura, aka Hiromoot, the guy behind 2chan (Japanese 4chan) was in CH.106. Alongside, Mengo referring Chainsaw Man as Top 3 trending after this news breaks out. This is not Aka ranting, this is just a reference. Hiromoot has been parodied in lots of things. He's basically an internet celebrity in Japan since he was the owner of their old BBS 2ch.
We basically got a shitty Kana NTR arc whose only purpose is to move the plot forward by having Aqua start a movie. This arc surpassed bad, it literally made people drop the manga. The sales went down bad, from 150k+ to 100k. I'm talking about the Japanese side here, no one cares for the Western ones. Tho the fandom division was in the West too.
Since then, Ruby's job is now Kana's job. She pretty plainly got the cynical to honest plot down, rejected casting couch & mediocre acting for love, literally became Aqua's light, & all.
As of writing this, this is the current arc in the manga, starting at Chapter 109. They finally figure out who the killer is, current arc is supposedly about Aqua's revenge plot being set in motion by making a movie about his mother's death, starring his sister as his mom (Because his ex didn't want the role). The killer himself is some serial killer that targets vulnerable people in the entertainment industry & first gets close to them before killing them because he was raped when he was 11. He was 15 when Ai fucked him. Also, he now moved on from getting people to do his killing for him & he just pushed his most recent victim down a mountain, who's the No.1 actress in Japan.
Yes, the main plot has actually, finally, started. After 100+ chapters, we have been seeinf the characters do fucking side quests.
One more thing I found out is that it's not even a unique creation from Aka's mind itself. This whole she-bang from reincarnation to revenge movie, is apparently something an Indian film from 2007 called "Om Shanti Om" has already done. I consulted my Indian homie for this with plain descriptions who happened to have seen this film 17x times on cable, & he admits it's almost the same, even the idol-fagging, except a bit different, & no parental bullshit. Further proving that Indians are the only people capable of doing live-action anime with soul.
Yes, the main plot has actually, finally, started. After 100+ chapters, we have been seeinf the characters do fucking side quests.
One more thing I found out is that it's not even a unique creation from Aka's mind itself. This whole she-bang from reincarnation to revenge movie, is apparently something an Indian film from 2007 called "Om Shanti Om" has already done. I consulted my Indian homie for this with plain descriptions who happened to have seen this film 17x times on cable, & he admits it's almost the same, even the idol-fagging, except a bit different, & no parental bullshit. Further proving that Indians are the only people capable of doing live-action anime with soul.
So what are you getting in this series now? Well, it scatters in the premises it creates. Having multiple genres is never a bad thing. Hell, one who does it right becomes a master creator in a way. Aka doesn't do it right. The series itself starts with multiple premises.
>Idol
>Rebirth
>Parenting Idol
>Murder Mystery
This later also has Rom-com, Love-triangle, Satire & some other things added into it. Really, the crux is a murder mystery with a ton of little reveals that's set within idol industries (including also general v-tuber shit for some reason) within the 1st 30 chapters. It doesn't really address stuff like family ties until later on in the manga, we're talking almost 70 chapters in. It leans a little hard into idol stuff & love triangles between the mid-chapters. The manga kind of trails off, worse than Kaguya in that respect.
So how does it fuck all those premises & genres? Here's how:
It already stops working since the beginning cause the killer is dead, we already know the mastermind is the father, so the mystery fails to deliver.
Then there's the fact that we even found out who it was & what he looks like in 5 panels by the deus ex machina character, Akane, (or the deus sex machina character due to her being "SEXO"), so the MC does jack shit for 50 chapters, not even including the manager who's even worse since he's been devoted to nothing but this for last 10 years, rejecting his company & wife. The solution to the father mystery is solved by Aqua planting a tracker on Akane because Akane is Aka's favourite plot device. Meanwhile, Ruby gets to be finally part of the main plot, by getting one of the most laziest & random plot devices in manga history.
None of the Hoshino siblings have any agency, they get the reveals spoonfed through deus ex machinas.
Then there's the fact that we even found out who it was & what he looks like in 5 panels by the deus ex machina character, Akane, (or the deus sex machina character due to her being "SEXO"), so the MC does jack shit for 50 chapters, not even including the manager who's even worse since he's been devoted to nothing but this for last 10 years, rejecting his company & wife. The solution to the father mystery is solved by Aqua planting a tracker on Akane because Akane is Aka's favourite plot device. Meanwhile, Ruby gets to be finally part of the main plot, by getting one of the most laziest & random plot devices in manga history.
None of the Hoshino siblings have any agency, they get the reveals spoonfed through deus ex machinas.
It turns into a rom-com around the beginning, except it neither has romance, nor is it funny. Aqua is an edgelord who goes full ayanokoji & treats all girls who toss themselves at him as "muh tools" & shit.
Ruby is irrelevant as fuck for a long while, you start wondering what was even the point of giving him a sister. Mind you, she's supposed to be the FeMC of this series, a co-protagonist. But when she finally gets her supposed relevance, it's in the worst way possible & the future results are shit too.
Ruby is irrelevant as fuck for a long while, you start wondering what was even the point of giving him a sister. Mind you, she's supposed to be the FeMC of this series, a co-protagonist. But when she finally gets her supposed relevance, it's in the worst way possible & the future results are shit too.
The rebirth itself is almost unnecessary, MC never uses his past life doctor skills. It's like Aka pitched the idea of Doctor MC to his editor, he said no & then he said "He's a REINCARNATED Doctor" turning his editor's eyes into cartoon dollar signs ($౦$) (or yen signs (¥ｏ¥), in this case).
Their eyes are supposedly Sharingan, later Mangekyou Sharingan from Naruto, or Geass from Code Geass of sorts. But they're only in when convenient.
The Crow God Loli is basically an actual god, existing for nothing but giving Ruby exposition. She's never talked about later onwards.
Their eyes are supposedly Sharingan, later Mangekyou Sharingan from Naruto, or Geass from Code Geass of sorts. But they're only in when convenient.
The Crow God Loli is basically an actual god, existing for nothing but giving Ruby exposition. She's never talked about later onwards.
Nuanced satire? Unbiased social commentary? Lol, lmao even. It's Aka Akasaka, you get none of that shit. It's just Aka commiting to his usual preachy idealism & ranting (bitching, if you will) about shit. He always did this since his Infinite Bullet days (it got axed for a good reason), his divorce made it even worse cause he's even more petty now, that shit ruins the 2nd half of Kaguya-sama after the confession.
>Otakus bad, they post mean shit on the internet (which makes it obvious is the author ranting about criticism towards his mangas).
>They're schizos who can easily kill people. (which makes me think someone tried to knife Aka IRL, instead of Aka referencing a few Idol assault cases).
>Idols bad, they are just liars! (which makes me think Aka either got into idols or, some other parasocial relationship. He's already a massive V-tubers simp).
>The entire entertainment industry is just nepotism (which everyone already knew, that's how any company works. Japanese Industry is less corrupt than the American Industry due to the lack of "them"
).
>The people doing adaptations are just assholes ruining the source material! (which makes it really hard to not think of as a personal grievance due to the Kaguya-sama live-action).
Aka doesn't even know anything about idol culture. He was never in the idol business. His writing is completely shallow. All Aka did was try to ride on the Act Age hype, which showed more in the 2.5D Stage Play (Theater Namek) arc but the big difference is that Act Age's author used to work in the TV industry before becoming a writer.
The whole arc Dating Reality Show arc in S1E3 about that shitty manga adaption was basically Aka bitching about live-action Kaguya-sama adaption.
Then Aka randomly shoe-horned a idol character in Ruby Cosplay Arc, then sperged about them. It had literally zero connection to the actual arc cause there was no reason to add that bit at all, he just wanted to sperg about V-tubers.
Mind you, he's a massive V-tuber simp, he appears in their streams all the time, he's friends with with many of them. Recently, Aka is trying to fuck Nishizawa 5mm so he hired her as the artist for his new manga Renai Daikou (Love Agency), even though he could have hired a more talented female artist (she's good at her job). He did the same thing with Mengo.
One of the theories about this is that it's cause be’s friends with Mafumafu who was in a V-tuber related scandal with the V-tuber Rushia so that’s probably why he’s starting to sperg out about them now. You will even notice that the V-tuber that looks like Rushia (has a double-bun hairstyle) is kind of a slut.
One more thing to note is that Aka is beholden to the same exact corporate interests that he criticizes in the manga. Any criticism he directs towards the "darkness" of the entertainment industry is always going to be toothless, because Shueisha wouldn't publish anything that might actually piss off any corporate bigwigs.
Look at this arc, for example. Aka's version of "sexual harassment" in the entertainment industry is nobody director being rude to some cosplayer. In the actual Japanese entertainment industry, you have people like Johnny Kitagawa & Hideo Sakaki, but that sort of stuff would he too controversial for Aka to address in the manga. Even Aka's version of the Hana Kimura incident was totally toothless. In real life, Hana Kimura's death immediately destroyed a long-running entertainment franchise & led to actual laws being passed. But Aka's version with Akane? Nobody died, the show was allowed to finish, nobody lost their jobs, the controversy was quickly forgotten & everyone moved on. And of course, Aka has managed to sidestep being critical of the music industry, its corruption & how it mistreats young talent by having the idols work for a tiny agency run by Ruby's stepmother who loves her.
All the manga's bluster about the "darkness" of entertainment is just bluster, Oshi no Ko's version of Japan's entertainment industry is way lighter & friendlier than the real version. The only way a manga could truly criticize the Japanese entertainment industry is if it was in some indie alt-manga magazine. Also, said manga would almost certainly never be translated into English. Read Oshi no Ko for the characters & their stories, but all the entertainment industry stuff is always going to be bland & disappointing.
>Otakus bad, they post mean shit on the internet (which makes it obvious is the author ranting about criticism towards his mangas).
>They're schizos who can easily kill people. (which makes me think someone tried to knife Aka IRL, instead of Aka referencing a few Idol assault cases).
>Idols bad, they are just liars! (which makes me think Aka either got into idols or, some other parasocial relationship. He's already a massive V-tubers simp).
>The entire entertainment industry is just nepotism (which everyone already knew, that's how any company works. Japanese Industry is less corrupt than the American Industry due to the lack of "them"
).>The people doing adaptations are just assholes ruining the source material! (which makes it really hard to not think of as a personal grievance due to the Kaguya-sama live-action).
Aka doesn't even know anything about idol culture. He was never in the idol business. His writing is completely shallow. All Aka did was try to ride on the Act Age hype, which showed more in the 2.5D Stage Play (Theater Namek) arc but the big difference is that Act Age's author used to work in the TV industry before becoming a writer.
The whole arc Dating Reality Show arc in S1E3 about that shitty manga adaption was basically Aka bitching about live-action Kaguya-sama adaption.
Then Aka randomly shoe-horned a idol character in Ruby Cosplay Arc, then sperged about them. It had literally zero connection to the actual arc cause there was no reason to add that bit at all, he just wanted to sperg about V-tubers.
Mind you, he's a massive V-tuber simp, he appears in their streams all the time, he's friends with with many of them. Recently, Aka is trying to fuck Nishizawa 5mm so he hired her as the artist for his new manga Renai Daikou (Love Agency), even though he could have hired a more talented female artist (she's good at her job). He did the same thing with Mengo.
One of the theories about this is that it's cause be’s friends with Mafumafu who was in a V-tuber related scandal with the V-tuber Rushia so that’s probably why he’s starting to sperg out about them now. You will even notice that the V-tuber that looks like Rushia (has a double-bun hairstyle) is kind of a slut.
One more thing to note is that Aka is beholden to the same exact corporate interests that he criticizes in the manga. Any criticism he directs towards the "darkness" of the entertainment industry is always going to be toothless, because Shueisha wouldn't publish anything that might actually piss off any corporate bigwigs.
Look at this arc, for example. Aka's version of "sexual harassment" in the entertainment industry is nobody director being rude to some cosplayer. In the actual Japanese entertainment industry, you have people like Johnny Kitagawa & Hideo Sakaki, but that sort of stuff would he too controversial for Aka to address in the manga. Even Aka's version of the Hana Kimura incident was totally toothless. In real life, Hana Kimura's death immediately destroyed a long-running entertainment franchise & led to actual laws being passed. But Aka's version with Akane? Nobody died, the show was allowed to finish, nobody lost their jobs, the controversy was quickly forgotten & everyone moved on. And of course, Aka has managed to sidestep being critical of the music industry, its corruption & how it mistreats young talent by having the idols work for a tiny agency run by Ruby's stepmother who loves her.
All the manga's bluster about the "darkness" of entertainment is just bluster, Oshi no Ko's version of Japan's entertainment industry is way lighter & friendlier than the real version. The only way a manga could truly criticize the Japanese entertainment industry is if it was in some indie alt-manga magazine. Also, said manga would almost certainly never be translated into English. Read Oshi no Ko for the characters & their stories, but all the entertainment industry stuff is always going to be bland & disappointing.
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Ai's death could have been done well if the first episode just dropped the entire isekai subplot and just showed the events from her viewpoint, from start to end. Then it wouldn't be "here is my personal flaws, now I'll die and show how I overcame them without actual investment". It would have been a better character piece and have consistent tone rather than comedic until a dark last 15 minutes.
The moment itself is only impactful because the art of making the viewer feel sad has been perfected by the industry, but in the end it's hollow. It's not a mother who tried her best with her grieving traumatized kids, it's a woman that fucked her life by going into exploitive industry grieved by an obsessive man ten+ years older and an immature obsessive fan girl who decide to avenge their waifu.
It's also pretty pointless, the idea was to have the "pure girl" have flaws, but in the end she goes full on Mother Maria on her assailant. Actually having her tell the assailant to go kill himself and then telling her kids she loves them would make her out to be an actual person and the revelation of her being capable of love rather than indifference, more impactful. It's like the author want to claim moral depth, but can't permit himself to make his waifu show any sign of malice.
Finally, the whole scenario remind of of Netflix's Cuties - "We're going to tell you that you shouldn't do this sexually exploitative showbiz shit to minors, but we're going to unironically cram it with the material to attract viewers". If you want to tell me the idol business is bad, then at least don't make a song playlist.
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Yeah isekai is going into a completely different dimension. Reincarnation is just reincarnation.
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Finally getting around to ZZ Gundam and I can't really understand the hate for it. It's goofier than Zeta for sure, but it's certainly building up to something. Maybe this opinion will change as I get later into the anime but for now I like it.
I'm also going through as many of the Gundams as possible before I get to Turn A. If there are any ones I should skip or avoid, please let me know.
I'm also going through as many of the Gundams as possible before I get to Turn A. If there are any ones I should skip or avoid, please let me know.
It's been a long time since Kaguya ended and I still haven't recovered from it. That was the first time there's been a series that was top 5 all time material that I ended up hating in the end. I've kicked around rewatching the first season of the anime, but it just makes me remember all of Aka's problems and I decide not to.
I believe that part of ZZ hate is that a lot of people want it to be Zeta 2 when all the UC shows, even if they're following a larger narrative, are stylistically and tonally different. I see people like it a lot more now, and that might partly be due to them starting to look at it on its own merits. There's also the belief that it doesn't matter because it doesn't connect well to Char's Counterattack, but again the UC shows weren't made as one cohesive project and iirc there were people at release who skipped straight from 0079 to CCA.