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I can understand why some people think the animation of MSG 0079 is really outdated, but honestly people blow it out of proportion. Yeah, some of the animation is a bit shit, but honestly it's nowhere as terrible as some of anime of the period or some contemporary series.
Really, the only episodes to really watch out for (in regards to garbage animation) are 15 and 19, the others are passable for their time period (and I can think of plenty of other anime that look worse from around that time too, like any of Tatsunoko's stuff).

Still, I wouldn't mind a reanimation akin to the movies. I just don't know if they should, given how the hardcore fans can get when it comes to new series coming out.
 
Really, the only episodes to really watch out for (in regards to garbage animation) are 15 and 19, the others are passable for their time period (and I can think of plenty of other anime that look worse from around that time too, like any of Tatsunoko's stuff).

Still, I wouldn't mind a reanimation akin to the movies. I just don't know if they should, given how the hardcore fans can get when it comes to new series coming out.

70s Tatsunoko? Terrible looking?

Sure, you could say that for Speed Racer (and that was one of their first shows, let's be fair); but Gatchaman? Time Bokan? Yatterman? The Brave Frog, even? Hell no. Those shows have style, panache...
 
70s Tatsunoko? Terrible looking?

Sure, you could say that for Speed Racer (and that was one of their first shows, let's be fair); but Gatchaman? Time Bokan? Yatterman? The Brave Frog, even? Hell no. Those shows have style, panache...
No, I'm talking about their late-70s output. When they started outsourcing to crap animation studios, like Anime Friend, half the time
 
No, I'm talking about their late-70s output. When they started outsourcing to crap animation studios, like Anime Friend, half the time

Yatterman was late 70s, though. Still, even into the 80s, the three Robotech shows, the Gatchaman sequels, even Samurai Pizza Cats and the Bible cartoons they did have style and panache.
 
So tell me, what anime from that era would you say look like crap then? Or does everything from that era have "Style"?

Oh, there's anime that looks like crap from back then.

I defer to other authorities to think of what they are - because I can't think of any. Crappy animation, sure; crappy writing, sure; not character design...

(I should mention that I am incredibly forgiving of design work in animation; it takes a lot of work to make bad character designs...)
 
Oh, there's anime that looks like crap from back then.

I defer to other authorities to think of what they are - because I can't think of any.

(I should mention that I am incredibly forgiving of design work in animation; it takes a lot of work to make bad character designs...)
So I see. I generally am too, but I'm a little more of the scrutinizing type as well, as I've been exposed to many a bad animation style in the past.
 
I don't find most modern anime appealing to look at, but I don't think they're badly designed.
What kills me about modern anime us most of it just looks way too clean. The guy who animated FMA and the Sacred Star of Milos really drew me into that movie because it was animation that managed to be clean and acceptably rough, as well as fluid and extremely great to look at. The only flaw with that movie is the textbook example of a Mary Sue acting as the film's protagonist alongside Ed and Al.
 
What kills me about modern anime us most of it just looks way too clean. The guy who animated FMA and the Sacred Star of Milos really drew me into that movie because it was animation that managed to be clean and acceptably rough, as well as fluid and extremely great to look at. The only flaw with that movie is the textbook example of a Mary Sue acting as the film's protagonist alongside Ed and Al.
What you're running into here is the Golden Age fallacy, I think.
 
What you're running into here is the Golden Age fallacy, I think.
I disagree. I'm just saying I like animation when it looks rough because that's my tastes as a consumer and as an artist. One of my favorite animators for DBZ, Minoru Maeda, would very frequently strike this cord with me by having animation with rough but interesting outlines. Shingo Natsume was the animator I was referring to before, and his rough style is something that always looks great to me.

Not to say I don't love clean animation. Toei has a guy they call on any time they want to produce something that looks great, I can't remember his name at the moment but he's done stuff like the intro to DBZ: Ultimate Tenkaichi, the last fight scene in DBZ: Battle of Gods, Luffy using Gear Fourth for the first time, etc.
 
I disagree. I'm just saying I like animation when it looks rough because that's my tastes as a consumer and as an artist. One of my favorite animators for DBZ, Minoru Maeda, would very frequently strike this cord with me by having animation with rough but interesting outlines. Shingo Natsume was the animator I was referring to before, and his rough style is something that always looks great to me.

Not to say I don't love clean animation. Toei has a guy they call on any time they want to produce something that looks great, I can't remember his name at the moment but he's done stuff like the intro to DBZ: Ultimate Tenkaichi, the last fight scene in DBZ: Battle of Gods, Luffy using Gear Fourth for the first time, etc.
Naoki Tate or Naotoshi Shida? Those are the two that come to mind.
 
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