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To Your Eternity season 2 is really fun, the jump of centuries ahead where the first season becomes an inspiration and religion really makes the buildup worth it.

Also Bocchi finally rocks and the song is pretty great.
 
I'm not too far in the Urusei Yatsura manga anyway, but she started off as the villain only to soften up and become the godmother of waifus. Still is a shame to hear they toned down Ataru's lecherous nature, really hate how they have to modernize things nowadays, like how in the new Fruits Basket, Shigure didn't smoke at all because "Smoking bad now", and Ritsu didn't really show up much outside of his debut episode probably due to his crossdressing.

Just all the more reason to just go back and watch older anime at this point until Japan returns anime to its perverted crazy antics.
 
How often do you describe anime as being apart of the big 4 (shounen/shoujo/seinen/josei)? I'm arguing that those are not descriptive and there are genres among them. You wouldn't compare Kyuuketsuki Sugu Shinu (gag comedy) to Bleach (battle shounen) and say one was a better because it's an apples to oranges comparison. I'm seeing people use the big demographics a lot and it's just not a way to describe anime.
 
Equivocal_Iki said:
How often do you describe anime as being apart of the big 4 (shounen/shoujo/seinen/josei)? I'm arguing that those are not descriptive and there are genres among them. You wouldn't compare Kyuuketsuki Sugu Shinu (gag comedy) to Bleach (battle shounen) and say one was a better because it's an apples to oranges comparison. I'm seeing people use the big demographics a lot and it's just not a way to describe anime.
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At least personally, Shonen is more of the basic bitch battle arc centered anime (rather than the target demographic), shoujou is the exaggerated art style, and seinen is overly edgy anime. I'd be surprised if that's not the general opinion on the matter.
 
wtfNeedSignUp said:
At least personally, Shonen is more of the basic bitch battle arc centered anime (rather than the target demographic), shoujou is the exaggerated art style, and seinen is overly edgy anime. I'd be surprised if that's not the general opinion on the matter.
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My impression is that seinen is simply more realistic in nature that deals with mature themes. It doesn't necessarily have to be edgy. Maison Ikkoku is a great seinen and that's not edgy at all.
 
Car Won't Crank said:
My impression is that seinen is simply more realistic in nature that deals with mature themes. It doesn't necessarily have to be edgy. Maison Ikkoku is a great seinen and that's not edgy at all.
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Similiar situation with Skip to Loafer or Kaguya-sama. Both are high school comedy dramas and both are seinens. Even though the premise sounds like a thing targeted to a younger demography. Seinen is a manga published in a seinen magazine. This is why a lot of people are surprised why Fire Punch is considered as shounen. It's because of the magazine. End of the story.
 
Equivocal_Iki said:
How often do you describe anime as being apart of the big 4 (shounen/shoujo/seinen/josei)? I'm arguing that those are not descriptive and there are genres among them. You wouldn't compare Kyuuketsuki Sugu Shinu (gag comedy) to Bleach (battle shounen) and say one was a better because it's an apples to oranges comparison. I'm seeing people use the big demographics a lot and it's just not a way to describe anime.
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All demographics of the anime/manga industry are reliant upon a specific language that tell the story suited for its target audience. Sure, they aren't genres in of themselves, but they have predispositions to certain storytelling techniques.
 
biozeminadae1 said:
All demographics of the anime/manga industry are reliant upon a specific language that tell the story suited for its target audience. Sure, they aren't genres in of themselves, but they have predispositions to certain storytelling techniques.
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My only problem is that "Target audience" is not a synonym for "genre." "Shonen" isn't a genre; it's a target audience, so don't be surprised when calling it a "genre" confuses people unnecessarily.
 
Simple, Shonen and co arent genres, dont use it and use actual genres do describe the content.

Also correct people from using it wrongly because it will only bring desinformation and there are things that just doesnt fit in this retarded category. (Example manga serialized on twitter for example)

And there isnt a thematic language at all, that is bullshit and anyone who read lots of manga can understand this.

The language part is how it is written: for manga for younger audiencea, you see lots of katakana and hiragana within the bubbles. In seinen there are more advanced kanji than shounen for example. And of course, the products and things advertised in the magazines. You arent going to find a 50 thousand yen product in a magazine for kids, they dont have that kind of money, even when it could be based on a manga that they like or can read it.

Tldr just dont use demographics as genres, use genres as genres
 
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And there isnt a thematic language at all, that is bullshit and anyone who read lots of manga can understand this.
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There is a narrative structure specific to shonen that's different from seinen, which is also different from shoujo, etc. It's really not a big deal.

Also, I watched Angel Blade Punish! - the sequel to Angel Blade, a hentai OVA. It was great, but it ended on a cliffhanger and there's never been a third part as of yet maid... and likely never will be. :'-(
I want more sentai babes fighting mutant freaks.

Also, I saw Kite: Liberator, the sequel to A Kite. It's very unfortunate how lackluster it is. And it's not even a true sequel. And it didn't resolve all of its plot threads that needlessly kept piling up over the 50-minute run. Bizarre...

Also, I saw New Dream Hunter REM, the sequel to Dream Hunter REM. Both OVAs were great, especially the last one, a retelling of Frankenstein.
 
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The misuse of using demographics as genres has also led to the confusion and "shock" of the misconception shoujo can never be smutty, because that's what josei is supposedly for, hurr durr. No, sillies, there's actual smutty shoujo out there because they got published in shoujo magazines that allow softcore scenes in them. Yes, both demographics utilize the female fantasy of a powerful hot guy ravishing some average young woman and being completely monogamous, but they're either shoujo or josei depending on the magazine your guilty pleasure smut's published in.
 
biozeminadae1 said:
There is a narrative structure specific to shonen that's different from seinen, which is also different from shoujo, etc. It's really not a big deal.

Also, I watched Angel Blade Punish! - the sequel to Angel Blade, a hentai OVA. It was great, but it ended on a cliffhanger and there's never been a third part as of yet maid... and likely never will be. :'-(
I want more sentai babes fighting mutant freaks.

Also, I saw Kite: Liberator, the sequel to A Kite. It's very unfortunate how lackluster it is. And it's not even a true sequel. And it didn't resolve all of its plot threads that needlessly kept piling up over the 50-minute run. Bizarre...

Also, I saw New Dream Hunter REM, the sequel to Dream Hunter REM. Both OVAs were great, especially the last one, a retelling of Frankenstein.
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No there isn't.

And we can use examples of shonen jump to show how it just doesnt fit: one of the most popular manga in the 80's was City Hunter by Tsukasa Hojo. It is a way more mature story than the usual content in SJ. To not even talk how the same series can be in both kinds of magazines like Space Adventure Cobra which started on a shonen magazine, then went to a seinen one. It is meaningless because it is just a demographic.

Another example is shaman king, it started as in a shonen, then the sequel got into a seinen, and the sequel of this sequel got into a shounen again and there is a prequel in a shoujo magazine.

The structure is all the same, there isnt more "adult" themes just because it changed. Just like most junji ito manga are for girls and women because the horror magazines are focused on them.

Unless you actually buy the magazines and read it there, it is mostly pointless to even discuss about it, even more when using it as a genre or structure, because there isnt one
 
Im happy with this fall season... bandsaw dude and matewars are both alot of fun.
 
wtfNeedSignUp said:
So someone made a VR rig to simulate SAO "kills you when you die" contraption, and I always wondered, if the SAO VR rig killed you by microwaving your brain, couldn't you save everyone by putting aluminium foil on them fast enough?
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It would depend on how it worked and since it's "literal magic required to even have the setting", no it wouldn't
 
I'm fairly sure the NerveGear worked by somehow rerouting your brain's non-autonomic I/O directly into itself, rather than just being a VR headset. I would be very skeptical of any claims that someone pulled that off IRL.
 
Thomas Talus said:
I'm fairly sure the NerveGear worked by somehow rerouting your brain's non-autonomic I/O directly into itself, rather than just being a VR headset. I would be very skeptical of any claims that someone pulled that off IRL.
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Oh, I was thinking just a prop and we're speculating on the fictional one... You could probably copy the "murdering you with microwaves" part... It'd be too heavy to move around in or you'd have to wait a decent while being uncomfortably warm before real damage was done, I'd imagine.
 
Puff said:
Oh, I was thinking just a prop and we're speculating on the fictional one... You could probably copy the "murdering you with microwaves" part... It'd be too heavy to move around in or you'd have to wait a decent while being uncomfortably warm before real damage was done, I'd imagine.
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Ultrasonic embolisms, low frequency RF vasoconstrictive strokes. If you have the telemetry/mapping for a mind interface you can target blood vessels. Similarly if you can point your magic at sensory feedback you can point it at the brainstem and pop their heart. Personally I'd mash all the buttons.
 
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