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Edit: Also, speaking of death, and since it's the beginning of October, has anyone here watched Shiki? I watched the whole thing years ago and remember loving the hell out of it. Might rewatch it this month in celebration of the season.
Shiki is awesome and sadly underrated. It admittedly falls off in its latter half, but I got hooked a couple episodes in and binged it over a weekend. The OVAs for it too are fantastic, especially the one where (IIRC) the locals trap a bunch of the zombies in a cave and subsequently go in and slaughter them all.

It's the series Tokyo Ghoul wishes it could be.
 
I agree.

You know, one thing I’ve noticed about a lot of modern cartoon and anime fans is that they’re a bunch of autistic wimps.

Like, these people can’t take any kind of negativity. If they see negativity, they start ranting and seething or they completely shut down.

It’s really pathetic.
I think it's more that anime lost it's balls in the last 2 decades. I don't remember any other anime ending with a Kill Them All plus a lot of sudden deaths.
 
I've been there for ten years, nice try. I know the userbase sucks eggs and I saw over time even before One Punch Man aired how the site gutted the review section to bits, but the attitudes of the newer, younger fans of anime frustrate me sometimes (an inevitable problem when you want to talk to anime fans online). Is it like a Zoomer thing or something to have such shallow attitudes toward media that have characters die in the plot?


Popular shows in general that generate "controversy" attract retarded views like that, but even really innocuous and mediocre series get some of these people frothing at the mouth. I posted it in the Weeaboos thread, but a now-deleted review made me look at the "Kiss Him, Not Me" reviews and it's hilarious how many negative/mixed-feelings reviews there are bitching about "fatphobia" and how gross it is to fetishize BL despite the fact the series was created by a fujoshi making fun of fujoshi culture.
Honestly, I think the shit quality of MAL has stayed consistent only now offended zoomers are writing all the worst reviews instead of pretentious oldfags who think it's gay to like anything except for JoJo and LOTGH. I don't think anyone really hates death in general when it comes to stories but realistically, how often is it nowadays that a bunch of deaths are done cheaply without adding anything to the story except shock value? I remember everyone here talking about Gundam IBO a while back and agreeing pretty unanimously that most of the deaths were just mean spirited, pointless and gay. With bullshit like that, I wouldn't be surprised if some zoomers just thought death in general just kinda sucks in media but they'll overlook it if done right.

Yeah, the people who complain about shit like that are fat trannies who fetishize lesbians so hard that they try becoming one so nobody should be taking them very seriously. Like legit, sometimes I see people bitching about fujo shit on twitter and half of the time it's a trans "lesbian". Fujos are degenerate but they're also pretty based since most of them actually hate homos irl, get yourself a fujo gf.
 
i miss it when anime was considered weird, niche geek shit
normies ruin everything
I agree, I liked it when we could enjoy our stuff in peace. I wish geek culture never went mainstream.
Yeah, the people who complain about shit like that are fat trannies who fetishize lesbians so hard that they try becoming one so nobody should be taking them very seriously. Like legit, sometimes I see people bitching about fujo shit on twitter and half of the time it's a trans "lesbian".
I hate those people, so much. They will never be attractive no matter how much they try.
 
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Like, these people can’t take any kind of negativity. If they see negativity, they start ranting and seething or they completely shut down.
Nigga gave it an 8/10 though. Seems like he knows his preferences are only mild criticism and just failed to couch them as mild. I think it's a gay preference but it's muddied water too.
That's what I mean by cutting ESLs some slack; if our good friend had scrolled a bit and picked one of the many indisputable retards on offer we wouldn't need the conversation.
 
I think it's more that anime lost it's balls in the last 2 decades. I don't remember any other anime ending with a Kill Them All plus a lot of sudden deaths.
There's still a lot of those types of series.
Hell, people are talking about one of those right now in this thread.
Though, its true they aren't nearly as graphic as they used to be. It doesn't necessarily need to be "realistic" but more insides being outside would be nice.
 
Shiki is awesome and sadly underrated. It admittedly falls off in its latter half, but I got hooked a couple episodes in and binged it over a weekend. The OVAs for it too are fantastic, especially the one where (IIRC) the locals trap a bunch of the zombies in a cave and subsequently go in and slaughter them all.

It's the series Tokyo Ghoul wishes it could be.
Shiki is one of the few vampire themed anime I could watch. It's a good one.
 
Shiki is awesome and sadly underrated. It admittedly falls off in its latter half, but I got hooked a couple episodes in and binged it over a weekend. The OVAs for it too are fantastic, especially the one where (IIRC) the locals trap a bunch of the zombies in a cave and subsequently go in and slaughter them all.

It's the series Tokyo Ghoul wishes it could be.
My only problem with Shiki was it trying to portray the Vampires as victims when they 100% deserve everything that happens to them.
 
Some of them were kinda given the sympathetic treatment, but Pinkie and a bunch of the others were clearly not.
The only ones who were sympathetic were the ones who tried to avoid drinking humans, but the revelation that Vampires can live off donated blood plus the psychological nightmare they put the doctor through pretty much makes them completely irredeemable. The anime tried to make a "humans are the real monsters" but ignores the fact that half the village was wiped out.
 
I remember everyone here talking about Gundam IBO a while back and agreeing pretty unanimously that most of the deaths were just mean spirited, pointless and gay.
I liked IBO in large part for that exact reason though. It was a pretty realistic handling of character death, honestly. Orga decided not only to fuck around in the shadiest and darkest of underground circles, but also decided, against all forewarnings and conventional wisdom, to shortcut the way to Tekkadan's success as much as possible. And I believe if it were any other story, most people wouldn't think twice about the fact that when you cross dangerous people, there's usually severe comeuppance sooner or later. I don't know why a lot of IBO's viewers suddenly decided this couldn't possibly be the case with Gundam, but it should have been pretty obvious (at least, it always was to me) when you looked at the entire setting objectively.

Death isn't always glamorous. Death can, and often does, come in the most inglorious and abrupt of ways, especially when its least expected. And it makes no distinctions for the importance or significance of any person, or at least from a realistic standpoint, it should, if the writing doesn't protect those individuals through some means or another.
 
My only problem with Shiki was it trying to portray the Vampires as victims when they 100% deserve everything that happens to them.
I didn't really have a problem with it because it winds up dealing with moral absolutes. The vamps are to be detested by humans because of what they do, but obviously in their eyes they cannot help who they are - they're fulfilling their biological requirements. Likewise humans naturally want them exterminated because they threaten the community and everyone in it. I enjoy this sort of nuance because it forces you to recognize the other side has a legitimate argument even while actively seeking them dead.

It's basically the Melian debate from Thucydides in anime form where judge, jury, and executioner are your ability to physically enforce your viewpoint on the opposition.
 
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