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wtfNeedSignUp said:
Halfway through Legend of the Galactic Heroes, it really is kino as promised, extremely smart, and a lot of its points are extremely true even today (pretty fitting considering one of the themes is how humanity hasn't changed even after millenias).

I don't remember where I heard it, but people said there are dozens of characters to keep track over in the anime, but really the cast is about 7 important characters in the two sides (with plenty of side characters).

The only gripe I have is that the Alliance is autistically retarded, while the Empire is incredibly proficent. Even if the point is that "what's better, the worse democracy or the best autocracy?", each system of goverment has its pros and cons regardless of the people on top. An autocracy might have the ability to enact changes rapidly, but once someone who isn't fit is put into a job, things can go bad without an easy fix. While a democracy has easier time changing leadership and adapting to changes on multiple levels.
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Yeah the Alliance was the biggest annoyance for me trying to watch the show but not in terms of government per say.
People who know the show better can confirm or tell me I'm full of shit but from the few episodes I've seen it kind looks like the Empire is set up as a agrarian society and the alliance is very much an industrial one, and somehow the former has been mogging the latter for a few centuries.
I've seen some reasons to explain it, best one is the Nobility of the empire are simply larping as space Prussians and don't get all of there power/wealth from forcing their citizens to be illiterate farmers. But if it isn't and they are wholly relying on having tech from the former Federation and having a lot more manpower, I kind of call bullshit.
 
Do non-Isekai fantasy animes exist anymore? Seems like its just Isekai now. Which I dont get. NEET self-insert "I was reincarnated into this fantasy world" is a pretty cringe premise and the worst part of every Isekai. Taking any story and Neverending Storying it just makes it worse IMO.
 
Grand Wizard Wakka said:
Do non-Isekai fantasy animes exist anymore? Seems like its just Isekai now. Which I dont get. NEET self-insert "I was reincarnated into this fantasy world" is a pretty cringe premise and the worst part of every Isekai. Taking any story and Neverending Storying it just makes it worse IMO.
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Its not an anime but I'll shill Dungeon Meshi whenever I can. It's weird how some people conflate fantasy anime with Isekai when it could be so much more though. Imagine being able to travel to any world and you choose Generic Fantasy World #3392.
 
In all fairness, regardless of the fantasy or isekai, anime adaptions of light novels scrape off most of the desciption of the world out anyway.

Mushoku Tensei's anime as good as it was, never showed a single map or even got down to explain why exactly they couldn't just cut across.
Its just harder to get away with with manga.
 
vern said:
Yeah the Alliance was the biggest annoyance for me trying to watch the show but not in terms of government per say.
People who know the show better can confirm or tell me I'm full of shit but from the few episodes I've seen it kind looks like the Empire is set up as a agrarian society and the alliance is very much an industrial one, and somehow the former has been mogging the latter for a few centuries.
I've seen some reasons to explain it, best one is the Nobility of the empire are simply larping as space Prussians and don't get all of there power/wealth from forcing their citizens to be illiterate farmers. But if it isn't and they are wholly relying on having tech from the former Federation and having a lot more manpower, I kind of call bullshit.
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I pretty much decided to ignore the logistics side when the Empire straight up emptied out the food storage of a planet into their space ships over the course of 2 hours, this shit should take at least 2 months. Though it is annoying we never get to hear about the Empire's economic model, and only get to hear about the Alliance's one.
At least the show is consistent in the inconsistencies, like having the ships bunch up close yet still use light seconds as matter of distances.
 
Grand Wizard Wakka said:
Do non-Isekai fantasy animes exist anymore? Seems like its just Isekai now. Which I dont get. NEET self-insert "I was reincarnated into this fantasy world" is a pretty cringe premise and the worst part of every Isekai. Taking any story and Neverending Storying it just makes it worse IMO.
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Pretty sure Goblin Slayer and Redo of Healer aren't isekais

:thinking:
 
Stasi said:
Its top tier stuff, not just as an anime but compared to any piece of media.

It doesn't beat you over the head with anything or treat the viewer like an idiot. With the political stuff especially, you are presented with two different sides and really it's up to the viewer to draw their own conclusions. I honestly can't imagine any western show or film doing something like that in this day and age and treating the viewer with respect.
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I assume you mean the first adaption, which makes me wonder how the new one holds up in comparison (dat sawano music tho...)
 
ZMOT said:
I assume you mean the first adaption, which makes me wonder how the new one holds up in comparison (dat sawano music tho...)
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Die Neue Thesis is a ridiculously stripped-down version of the story; any non-primary character that can be removed, has been, leaving the world a lot less fleshed-out and interesting. The Sawano music is good, but on the other hand the show somehow managed to make Iserlohn visually uninteresting.
 
vern said:
Yeah the Alliance was the biggest annoyance for me trying to watch the show but not in terms of government per say.
People who know the show better can confirm or tell me I'm full of shit but from the few episodes I've seen it kind looks like the Empire is set up as a agrarian society and the alliance is very much an industrial one, and somehow the former has been mogging the latter for a few centuries.
I've seen some reasons to explain it, best one is the Nobility of the empire are simply larping as space Prussians and don't get all of there power/wealth from forcing their citizens to be illiterate farmers. But if it isn't and they are wholly relying on having tech from the former Federation and having a lot more manpower, I kind of call bullshit.
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There's a severe disparity in population--the Empire has several times the population of the Alliance, and has settled more planets anyway. Most of the farming planets you see are said to be fairly remote, and they presumably still have industry and tech from the Federation, Phezzan, and their own R&D. I guess it's like Russia vs Germany (or Napoleonic France vs Russia given the parallels of the invasion strategy).

They also have Iserlohn Fortress meaning they mount raids and attacks fairly deep into Alliance territory regularly, and the Alliance government has to pay for refugee resettlement and reconstruction (because democracy) which is a colossal headache for them. But it's shown that aside from Alliance attacks on the fortress, Imperial expeditions are just as likely to end in defeat so the Alliance is usually pretty safe.
Thomas Talus said:
Die Neue Thesis is a ridiculously stripped-down version of the story; any non-primary character that can be removed, has been, leaving the world a lot less fleshed-out and interesting. The Sawano music is good, but on the other hand the show somehow managed to make Iserlohn visually uninteresting.
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Depends. It actually even fleshes out some of the side characters more than the original like giving an additional scene to that one land combat admiral they fight in the civil war. Some stuff gets cut to both make room for that and hurry the show along, but it's rarely anything remotely important. The biggest stuff that does get cut is the battle scenes (except for stuff like Amritsar, which the original show cut instead), which is detrimental because it cuts away a lot of great moments from the characters (especially Kircheis) and the true scale of the war. A battle that got most of an episode in the original might get a single scene in the remake.
 
Gar For Archer said:
Pretty sure Goblin Slayer and Redo of Healer aren't isekais

:thinking:
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I mean, even this season The Genius Prince's Guide to Raising a Nation Out of Debt, Rust Eater Bisco and Demon Slayer are fantasy and aren't isekai out of just the shit I'm watching. Isekai is mostly shit as a genre but I don't know that it's any more shit on average then any other genre. Most anime is terrible and derivative; it's always been the case. I don't think it was better twenty years ago when every anime was trying to be dark and phycological to be like Neon Genesis Evangelion.
 
Save the Loli said:
There's a severe disparity in population--the Empire has several times the population of the Alliance, and has settled more planets anyway. Most of the farming planets you see are said to be fairly remote, and they presumably still have industry and tech from the Federation, Phezzan, and their own R&D. I guess it's like Russia vs Germany (or Napoleonic France vs Russia given the parallels of the invasion strategy).
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I honestly see it as a missed opportunity since I find the time period when monarchies start to grapple with industry really interesting and could of been cool to see in the show, but no its mostly handwaved away as Rudolf turning everyone into peasants, although that might legit just be Alliance propaganda now that I think about it. Also will admit the empires ships are extremely aesthetic and unless they show it in the later episode, I'm gonna be really disappointed if we never get to see their shipyards.
 
vern said:
I honestly see it as a missed opportunity since I find the time period when monarchies start to grapple with industry really interesting and could of been cool to see in the show, but no its mostly handwaved away as Rudolf turning everyone into peasants, although that might legit just be Alliance propaganda now that I think about it. Also will admit the empires ships are extremely aesthetic and unless they show it in the later episode, I'm gonna be really disappointed if we never get to see their shipyards.
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I just took it as the peasants being people Rudolf hated but didn't kill for whatever reason so just enserfed them to his nobles who in their space Prussian larp decided to make planet-wide estates. If you look closely, you see there's a decent-sized middle class like Kircheis and Reinhard's families (and most of his admirals come from similar backgrounds of poor nobles and middle class commoners) and there's presumably plenty of shopkeepers and other typical middle-class. But you're definitely right it's a missed opportunity, which LOGH is really full of. Not that it's necessarily a bad thing, it's more the product of how well the show illustrates its setting that you can think of more interesting things that could've been with it. I agree that I'd love to see some corrupt industrialist noble getting his shit kicked in or whatever.
 
SteelPlatedHeart said:
Well, I just caught up with “Looking Up To Magical Girls”, “Ranger Reject”, “Mieruko-chan”, “Nagatoro”, and “MHA: Vigilantes” and they have have had some pretty major stuff happen in the last couple chapters.
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I read all of them except Ranger Reject, but yeah, I concur. There's some massive stuff going on right now, I don't remember Mieruko-chan much tho, I blame the slow release for that.
 
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I am so mad we aren't getting a new chapter this week, Cloverbros.
I'm gonna be honest, I think them winning at all is gonna be bullshit and even bigger bullshit if it isn't the hardest struggle we've seen thus far and nobody dies. Problem is, Asta and Yuno are off the table for being killed and nobody else around is really developed enough to be killed except for Yami who I really don't want to die, it'd be a ballsy move but I'd rather them not kill the character who steals the show every time he's on screen.

I feel like Tabata kind of wrote his way into a corner so pretty much anything he does from here is either going to negatively affect the series in the long run, be super unsatisfying narratively or be a complete asspull. At the very least, nothing he can do will be elf arc level bad but this has been a really great arc so far so it'd suck if it had a shitty conclusion.

Stasi said:
If you like shounen stuff you will like HxH, its very well made, the animation is good and it hits the main beats you'd like in a shounen. I personally don't see how its rated so highly, its "good" at best. People seem to really like the ant arc, I think its an embarrassing mess but maybe I'm setting the bar too high. Give it a watch if you have nothing better to do I guess?
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I don't like most of HxH simply because I really like shonen. It seems to me like it's trying it's hardest to be the anti-shonen, doing everything as different as possible from a normal shonen just for the sake of being different. Like dude, your main character "winning" fights by getting the shit beat out of him so hard that the people start to feel bad and stop because they don't wanna kill him sure is different but it's also just really lame and not enjoyable to watch.
 
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