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Oddjob OTP said:
Which is fine if you assume he was holding the idiot ball for his entire adult life and did not know that the military leadership, including the weird cultists, are sketchy and duplicitous as fuck. In a well written setting he would have known the caliber of the people he was serving under from rumors at least and not have been completely blind sided. He would have been serving anyway as they are the only military force that can stand up to the zombies but there's no plausible universe where he is literally the first person fucked over like this (although his fucking over was spectacular in that they were sacrificing one of their old-tech loli wizards as part of it)
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Oh yeah because in the age before mass media everyone was a conspiracy theorist who believed that their governments had it out for them.
 
Sleazy Car Salesman said:
Oh yeah because in the age before mass media everyone was a conspiracy theorist who believed that their governments had it out for them.
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OK I guess you didn't know this but people before cell phones talked to each other. When you send a unit to die for little military gain the soldiers around them know and remember it. I'm OK with the soldiers in the military not knowing whatever bullshit the priests-faction are undoubtedly up to but soldiers as far back as antiquity have known when their comrades routinely die for no good reason and it generally ends badly for command after a while.
 
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Oddjob OTP said:
OK I guess you didn't know this but people before cell phones talked to each other. When you send a unit to die for little military gain the soldiers around them know and remember it. I'm OK with the soldiers in the military not knowing whatever bullshit the priests-faction are undoubtedly up to but soldiers as far back as antiquity have known when their comrades routinely die for no good reason and it generally ends badly for command after a while.
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A man will fight long and hard for a piece of colored ribbon.

This is a society which is wholly or in large part ruled by a theocratic body which paints the war as a holy crusade to save all of humanity. This religious governing body controls all media, most of the public venues, and all the governing roles within society. They are more than free to paint dissenters as vile traitors and weaklings who lack in the faith which shields and empowers all of the nation to continue on. Sure, dissenters will exist, they will always be around, but without unfettered freedom to speak their minds in an uncensored forum in front of masses of people from all walks of life, nor solid evidence to back up their claims, they will forever remain on the fringe and not be able to push their way into the mainstream just like conspiracy theorists without powerful patrons always have. We're shown time and again that the men of the knights are filled with quite literal religious zeal for their work, that the church and the shadow government are more than able of maintaining a solid public face, and that the church is both efficient and ruthless at dealing with people who could potentially shatter that in any meaningful way. Furthermore, if the entire unit dies then they're martyrs and serve as fuel for the religious zeal of other units. You can't go on about how you're "interested in worldbuilding" and then ignore the worldbuilding that is present in the show.
 
Sleazy Car Salesman said:
You can't go on about how you're "interested in worldbuilding" and then ignore the worldbuilding that is present in the show.
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That's the problem; I can't suspend my disbelief if it requires the soldiers in the show to be demonstrably more stupid in service to the plot than any in history.
 
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