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Am I the only one who thinks the new NC is actually better? Instead of just raging at bad movies (which got really old, really fast), at least he tries to do some actual analysis. It's not always a good analysis, but some reviews it really works. IMO the worst parts of the reviews are the cringeworthy sketches.
 
Am I the only one who thinks the new NC is actually better? Instead of just raging at bad movies (which got really old, really fast), at least he tries to do some actual analysis. It's not always a good analysis, but some reviews it really works. IMO the worst parts of the reviews are the cringeworthy sketches.
Yeah, I think that his critiques of the movies are really good. Plus they add more weight than overly critiquing a long lost video game console. I haven't seen much of the new NC, but I know that the old NC did critique the movies, at least to some degree.
 
Am I the only one who thinks the new NC is actually better? Instead of just raging at bad movies (which got really old, really fast), at least he tries to do some actual analysis. It's not always a good analysis, but some reviews it really works. IMO the worst parts of the reviews are the cringeworthy sketches.

That would be fine if these "cringeworthy sketches" didn't make for a third of the running time of his videos.
 
That would be fine if these "cringeworthy sketches" didn't make for a third of the running time of his videos.

Most youtubers spend the first minutes/a big junk of the total time with lame sketches, subplots, and gags. They don't know to stick with their best options: satire, information, and puns. I like the NC but I cannot, and probably will not, watch any of his anniversary movies. I tried, but I just can't. I am the only one in this situation? *sigh*

Short and simple premises and executions usually works way better, like The Room's review:

 
I don't think I could ever bring myself to watch a nostalgia critic video. Oh how amusing, you wear the same hat in every video. People call you that guy with the glasses because you wear glasses. haha.
 
Speaking of bad Nostalgia Critic videos, the TMNT video with the Nerd is fucking awful. It's mostly them being overly angry at a stupid promo video. There's like two good jokes (James overdubbing Raining blood over the footage and the Christian Rock joke) but its just pretty sad seeing two late-20 somethings getting overly angry at this.
 
TGWTG just needs to be put out of it's misery. Doug, Linkara, The Cinema Snob....none of them are funny anymore. Their ship sailed a long while ago.
 
I used to watch NC quite a bit a few years back. After he decided to leave and then come back again though, he decided to do these long drawn out sketches in the middle of reviews that I personally didn't find very funny. So I just stopped watching him.
 
TGWTG just needs to be put out of it's misery. Doug, Linkara, The Cinema Snob....none of them are funny anymore. Their ship sailed a long while ago.
There are a couple of new guys that make decent content. Rap Critic isn't very funny but at least he knows what he's talking about. Happy Viking is pretty good as well.
 
TGWTG just needs to be put out of it's misery. Doug, Linkara, The Cinema Snob....none of them are funny anymore. Their ship sailed a long while ago.

I like Oancitizen, mainly because he often talks about movies I find interesting. He's also pretty analytical and doesn't force his humour too hard. Todd in the Shadows is... finde. To be honest, I can't claim to find Pop Music particulary interesting but his One Hit Wonder videos can be pretty interesting. I also really like JesuOtaku... it's a shame she left. Now I have to rely on Glass Reflection for Anime Reviews and while he's not terrible his delivery is a bit grating.
 
Sorry if my thoughts end up being all over the place. I think a big problem with people who critique movies these days is that:

1.) A lot of different people/groups are doing it.
2.) A lot of different people/groups are doing the same movies.

There's only so many times you can hear people make jokes about Tommy Wiseau's accent in The Room or the nipple suits in Batman and Robin, or how everything is blue in I Know Who Killed Me before you get sick of it and there's nothing left to say. Yes, Batman and Robin is very homoerotic and the piano teacher in I Know Who Killed Me is wearing a Liberace style ring. Please stop pointing it out.

I used to read reviews on agonybooth.com and retrocrush.com ages ago. I sporadically watched Nostalgia Critic videos a few years ago. Currently I listen to a podcast called How Did This Get Made and watch Red Letter Media's videos whenever I have some spare time. There's a lot of overlap in the things they discuss and sometimes people bring a new perspective, but sometimes I find myself thinking "yeah, I know this is a popular movie to shit on, but maybe let it go and do something else".

I think the key to being successful when critiqueing shitty movies is to be either hilarious or provide inside knowledge. Preferably both. Also, don't focus on something really specific like nostalgic and retro things. Retrocrush and X-entertainment were hilarious sites, and the owners obviously had really life things that kept them from updating their sites like they did during their glory days, but eventually you reach a point where there's nothing left to talk about and you either have to stop or rebrand yourself, and fanbases usually don't like it when you do the later.

Red Letter Media is funny and put together well. That's why I watch them. How Did This Get Made can be a bit hit or miss when it comes to comedy (I find it usually comes down to the guest they have on for each episode), but they give a lot of insight into how movies get made and how to tell when studios are having trouble putting a decent movie together. They also have brought in amazing guests that have worked on the movies they discuss. They've had the director of Punisher: Warzone talk about how hard it was to get it made, they've had the writer of Crocodile Dundee in Los Angles talk about how Paul Hogan ruined his script and tried to steal writing credit, they've had one of the actresses from Birdemic talk about what a trainwreck it was, and my favorite, they've talked to Greg "Oh hi Mark" Sestero about working with Tommy Wiseau on The Room.

The Nostalgia Critic was smart to stop focusing on 90's movies, but he doesn't have insider knowledge on the movies he reviews, and a lot of people don't find him funny, yet he, and other interenet reviewers, want to do these movies that have already been done, and if you can't keep up with people who have done them, and done them better, you need to pick something else or stop.
 
Sorry if my thoughts end up being all over the place. I think a big problem with people who critique movies these days is that:

1.) A lot of different people/groups are doing it.
2.) A lot of different people/groups are doing the same movies.

It's the same situation with LPers/video game "critics": everybody wants to be just like them without bringing anything new. That's why people with original-ish ideas like Honest Trailers or Cinema Sins are still popular, or Red Letter Media when they decide to release the next Plinkett review.
 
I like Oancitizen, mainly because he often talks about movies I find interesting. He's also pretty analytical and doesn't force his humour too hard.

You can learn a lot form Brows Held High which makes him stand out. As for new guys, the one that stands out the most is The Good Hook (though I'm not sure if he's still on.) He reviews inspirational/Christian films without being accusing and is willing to say good things about the films. I think he's got potential to at least be a halfway-decent reviewer.

TGWTG had the chance to bring in Thug Notes, but foolishly decided against it. Which is about a ghetto thug who goes through classic literature.
 
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So I watched the "Grandma Got Ran Over By a Reindeer" review NC did.

I'll admit, I didn't review itself bad. I did get a couple of chuckles here and there.

But that skit at the end was pretty dumb and felt really forced.
 
Sorry if my thoughts end up being all over the place. I think a big problem with people who critique movies these days is that:

1.) A lot of different people/groups are doing it.
2.) A lot of different people/groups are doing the same movies.

There's only so many times you can hear people make jokes about Tommy Wiseau's accent in The Room or the nipple suits in Batman and Robin, or how everything is blue in I Know Who Killed Me before you get sick of it and there's nothing left to say. Yes, Batman and Robin is very homoerotic and the piano teacher in I Know Who Killed Me is wearing a Liberace style ring. Please stop pointing it out.

I used to read reviews on agonybooth.com and retrocrush.com ages ago. I sporadically watched Nostalgia Critic videos a few years ago. Currently I listen to a podcast called How Did This Get Made and watch Red Letter Media's videos whenever I have some spare time. There's a lot of overlap in the things they discuss and sometimes people bring a new perspective, but sometimes I find myself thinking "yeah, I know this is a popular movie to shit on, but maybe let it go and do something else".

I think the key to being successful when critiqueing shitty movies is to be either hilarious or provide inside knowledge. Preferably both. Also, don't focus on something really specific like nostalgic and retro things. Retrocrush and X-entertainment were hilarious sites, and the owners obviously had really life things that kept them from updating their sites like they did during their glory days, but eventually you reach a point where there's nothing left to talk about and you either have to stop or rebrand yourself, and fanbases usually don't like it when you do the later.

Yup. I know the feeling. First off, a lot of people tend to get into the whole reviewing aspect (or webcomics) or whatever because they want the exposure and money people like AVGN or Nostalgia Critic get. But even if you're not that ambitious, if you want to rag on Shaq Fu or Star Wars Episode I, take a number. The second thing is making original content is hard to do. One of the cool things about X-E was he had all this material to work with--old VHS tapes, promotional cereal stored in the freezer, McDonald's ephemera...but you have to actually write and document that stuff, and it burns out a lot of people. That's why cool sites tend to go under after their updates slow, fans leave, the site remains up as a living museum to once was (a lot of blogs are like this).

Even if you are a success, there's still cycles, and I think that a lot of reviewers are past their expiration date on this. I'm going to use some Forumer avatars to make my point (only used an example)

Step One: :smokedaddy: begins to make YouTube videos. At least one is a surprising hit with a substantial number of views. People seem to like what :smokedaddy:have to say or find :smokedaddy: funny.

Step Two: As :smokedaddy: begins to gain more views, his camerawork gets better, videos get longer, the "universe" starts to expand, and a steady fanbase and subscriber count is formed. This is generally seen as a golden age. Imitators pop up. :ween: :stupid:

Step Three: As new subscribers begin to slow, content at this point is still good, but :smokedaddy: is starting an unfortunate trend of using overused jokes and new characters like :waifu::mythos::champ:.

Step Four: The ego goes to :smokedaddy:'s head and they start "phoning it in". Content begins to deteriorate, and subscribers plateau. Fans may hate at least one of :waifu::mythos::champ: because they're lame gimmicks (and gimmicks are increasingly seen). A string of bad videos or a scandal of some sort will cause a substantial downfall.

Step Five: :smokedaddy: videos slow as subscribers hemorrhage. At this point, the :ween::stupid: may still be active but never get a following. At this point, :smokedaddy: may still be getting money but relevance and subscribers flatline.
 
Am I the only one who thinks the new NC is actually better? Instead of just raging at bad movies (which got really old, really fast), at least he tries to do some actual analysis. It's not always a good analysis, but some reviews it really works. IMO the worst parts of the reviews are the cringeworthy sketches.

I don't like his new lighting to be honest. The cold tones and blues of his current setup just give me an off impression. The skits have always annoyed me because usually Doug or Rob really suck at pacing their jokes. It doesn't help that the two clingers on aren't exactly that solid in terms of acting, insofar as what I've seen in the New Critic. Personally, he feels more like he's burned out and hates his fanbase to some degree, since their chimp out over him giving up the role to make Demo Reel forced him to go back to a character he was tired of playing. In the fanbase's defense, Demo Reel was one of the worst web shows I've seen in my life.

Speaking of the Critic, has he finally released those three game shows he promised for that Indiegogo gig he set up? You know, the one that made $90k? I'm asking since it's been over a year since he pledged that stuff, I have yet to see any episodes on that matter.

And speaking of Channel Awesome (in particular Brows Held High's Oancitizen), lemme demonstrate him being a callous ass :alog:

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