"angry" gamers/critics

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Von Clausewitz said:
Spoonys Countermonkey/Pen and Paper-stories are quite entertaining, but after I've seen him sperging about AD&D and all that stuff, what kind of player and DM he is, I wouldn't want him in my PnP Group.

Anyway, I don't know if that has been posted here, but for additional salt, check the posts on his Patreon account, apparently he can't mute them.

https://www.patreon.com/spoonyexperiment?ty=a
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Can't say I don't sympathise with these people, since they've got nowhere else to bitch. Spoony disabled comments on his YT and site to filter out this mass frustration and it's easy enough to ignore or sic his fans on scattered Twitter complaints.

My impression of Spoony the tabletop gamer is that he can be shitty at humouring the spirit/character of his DM's game and that can make him an annoyance. The Jedi Hunter is a good example; he exploits faults in the game's rules/his GM's inattentiveness to completely stymie what was supposed to be an epic confrontation between Jedi. It's fair that he wanted to fight instead of hide behind the party like was suggested (it is an RPG, after all) but he was deaf (willfully or not) to how he went about this disappointed and frustrated his GM and the rest of the party. That's a lack of theory of mind that borders on autistic.

It's annoying for the same reason people find min-maxers and rules lawyers annoying. Spoony has no qualms screwing with his (fellow) players to get back at them for what he sees as injustices with how his character or the story is treated. It's no wonder he hasn't been willing or able to get together a group for years, even though it's feasible using online systems. Last I heard him talk about this fact, he was pretty bitter (as he is with anything involving his social life).
 
deeman said:
For how long has Spoony been doing this "Don't talk to me" attitude? And if he is so afraid of criticism, why does he even have a chat on his Live-plays?
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He has been disabling comments since i think 2012 or 2013,Their was a few times where he had raged on the chat like the Fallout 2 stream.
 
...aaaaaand Angry Joe officially jumps the shark.


Fallout 4. At number fucking three.

Now pair that with the fact that Fallout: New Vegas was not included it his 2010 list, or even mentioned at all that year.

And people consider this man a positive voice for the industry. I just... cannot... even...
 
I only put 6 or so hours into Fallout 4. I wasn't feeling it too much and I didn't like the fact that there were immortal NPC's you couldn't kill. Part of what I liked about Fallout 3 and NV was having that freedom to kill whoever I wanted and still get XP.

I did like that the gunplay was better.
 
Reality said:
...aaaaaand Angry Joe officially jumps the shark.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=id=xaP_MPCcINQ;m=20;s=35
Fallout 4. At number fucking three.

Now pair that with the fact that Fallout: New Vegas was not included it his 2010 list, or even mentioned at all that year.

And people consider this man a positive voice for the industry. I just... cannot... even...
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And can we please note that he has more subscribers than James. Why did everyone from CA, minus Brad, have to end up so... ech.
 
Gazelle_Bro said:
And can we please note that he has more subscribers than James. Why did everyone from CA, minus Brad, have to end up so... ech.
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Because they have at some earlier point passed their prime. At this moment one can, through reading this thread, see how far the likes of Doug's character the Nostalgia Critic has fallen. An earlier post said his new stuff is basically Demo Reel underneath his character. Spoony, though formerly a member of CA, has also reduced himself to nothing but VLOG's and streams of mediocre quality.
 
Reality said:
...aaaaaand Angry Joe officially jumps the shark.
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I've never liked Angry Joe to be brutally honest. Out of all the CA reviewers I always found his reviews the most irritating. First off, his voice is incredibly annoying. A lot of reviewers' voices are incredibly annoying when you get right down to it, but when you combine that with the awful content of the reviews it adds up. They go on forever (it's rare to see one of his reviews come in under half an hour), they're boring and they're filled with shitty, obvious jokes and sketches that go on about ten minutes longer than they need to, especially when you guessed the central joke the second the sketch started. How this guy was ever considered to be any good is beyond me.
 
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RJ MacReady said:
My impression of Spoony the tabletop gamer is that he can be shitty at humouring the spirit/character of his DM's game and that can make him an annoyance. The Jedi Hunter is a good example; he exploits faults in the game's rules/his GM's inattentiveness to completely stymie what was supposed to be an epic confrontation between Jedi. It's fair that he wanted to fight instead of hide behind the party like was suggested (it is an RPG, after all) but he was deaf (willfully or not) to how he went about this disappointed and frustrated his GM and the rest of the party. That's a lack of theory of mind that borders on autistic.
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I get a different picture tbh. I take into account the fact that this is essentially a "Interesting/funny tabletop games" series, he's going to go for the unusual or the "that one time this happened" type of stories. He's mentioned too that he dislikes min-maxing and rule lawyering (particularly alignment arguments". Rather, I would say its the fact that he is unrepentantly an old AD&D style DM role player, basically meaning that class imbalance for role-playing reasons, death once you go below 0, and generally leaning on the tougher part of being fair to your players.
 
Reality said:
...aaaaaand Angry Joe officially jumps the shark.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=id=xaP_MPCcINQ;m=20;s=35
Fallout 4. At number fucking three.

Now pair that with the fact that Fallout: New Vegas was not included it his 2010 list, or even mentioned at all that year.

And people consider this man a positive voice for the industry. I just... cannot... even...
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Let's have a look at what beat it.

Number 2 was Metal Gear Solid V and Number 1 was The Witcher 3.

I wouldn't take it too personally really, both were excellent games.
 
Arkomeda said:
I get a different picture tbh. I take into account the fact that this is essentially a "Interesting/funny tabletop games" series, he's going to go for the unusual or the "that one time this happened" type of stories. He's mentioned too that he dislikes min-maxing and rule lawyering (particularly alignment arguments". Rather, I would say its the fact that he is unrepentantly an old AD&D style DM role player, basically meaning that class imbalance for role-playing reasons, death once you go below 0, and generally leaning on the tougher part of being fair to your players.
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Yeah, of course. My ultimate point is just that he's got few restraints about fucking with people and throwing knuckleballs to blindside his GM. It's pragmatic, which is befitting of Spoony (and bards, at that) but he doesn't seem to get when he's toeing the implicit limits. Given some of his past opinions on such people, it smells hypocritical - almost.

Now, combined with his self-righteousness, this makes him difficult.

On another note, the most striking contrast I can draw between Spoony and more successful people in the field (e.g. James Rolfe) is that Spoony has absolutely no zen: he's permanently angry and sees everyone, even (or especially) people who follow and praise him as enemies. I think he rejects basic PR and standards of professionalism because he thinks they're destructive to his image as an authentic, opinionated critic, not understanding that acting out and picking as many fights as possible isn't a necessary component of that image.

He thinks it is, though, and that's the truest mark of how far his mind's deteriorated.
 
Speaking of Angry Joe...

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Probably fake, but if it isn't then that's some damn fine comedy plutonium right there.
 
TheImportantFart said:
I'm surprised Todd wasn't going apeshit over the fact they were taking the piss out of him and his ilk...
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I'd rather not give the guy more fuel to whine, but that is comforting to know - it's high time someone told these people off, seeing as they're not really critics to begin with like they think they are.
 
TheImportantFart said:
I'm surprised Todd wasn't going apeshit over the fact they were taking the piss out of him and his ilk. MovieBob had a hilariously pathetic whine about it on Twitter.
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Shokew said:
I'd rather not give the guy more fuel to whine, but that is comforting to know - it's high time someone told these people off, seeing as they're not really critics to begin with like they think they are.
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I thought the recent South Park season was about SJWs. Did they do one about internet reviewers too?
 
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