💼 Careercow Andrew Dobson (aka Tom Preston)

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Male Idiot said:
Tintin as I recall is very old stuff. Pre WW2 old. What is acceptable is based on social norms at the time period. Just like Lovecraft, its a product of a totally different times.
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Well the Tintin stories continued into the 1970's and there is quite a bit of growth socially that occurred by the time of Herge's death in the 80's while trying to finish his last book, but it is certainly a product of it's time.
 
Male Idiot said:
Tintin as I recall is very old stuff. Pre WW2 old. What is acceptable is based on social norms at the time period. Just like Lovecraft, its a product of a totally different times. I don't feel its fair to bash it for not matching the current political trends, since those are malleable. Who knows what will be acceptable in a hundred years from now? Maybe blue bears will be illegal!

Only people like Dobson judge something made in another time and,or another culture compared to their current "up to date" local culture. See the sensitive training for Japan idea by our blue bear.

On a more philosophical train fo thought, these "enlightened and sensitive" times create things like Dobson, Wu or Sarkeesian... than maybe we are not better off like we believe.
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Dont get me wrong im in no way bashing Herge, he was an interesting guy. He actually did work for the nazis (under threat) but managed to work insults and anti nazi sentiment into their propaganda.
My point is Dobbie holds golden age comics up as something we should aspire to whilst knowing fuck all about it.

This is better in dobbie eyes than new 52 DC
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Male Idiot said:
Only people like Dobson judge something made in another time and,or another culture compared to their current "up to date" local culture. See the sensitive training for Japan idea by our blue bear.

On a more philosophical train fo thought, these "enlightened and sensitive" times create things like Dobson, Wu or Sarkeesian... than maybe we are not better off like we believe.
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Can anyone do a dobson version of the anti japanese ww2 poster.
Sort of "Dobson says slap insensitive japs"
 
Mitch Watterson said:
I wonder how well read Dobson is on Tintin, because it doesn't look like something he would support if he had read it all. Early Tintin was fucking insane.
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I felt that way after reading the Last Gasp of San Francisco hardcover of the original B&W version of Tintin in the Congo. It certainly goes too far and I was taken back a little while reading it. I'm only glad Herge managed to get a clue later on when he started researching these things for later comics.
 
Chan the Wizard said:
New storify, play a game, when describing the comic book guy, do you think he's unconsciously describing himself?
https://storify.com/ADobsonComics/my-experiences-with-comic-book-stores
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... I want to shove a bar of soap down his throat till he chokes and then gut him open.
This storify sincerely pisses me off, because I myself actually worked for some time at a comic store and made some of the best friends in life there. Sure, organization was a deal but we had a lot of things. Who the fuck does this guy think he is, if he insults pretty much all comic readers and shop owners, because the one shitty store in his neighborhood did not pander to him. Fuck you, Andrew Dobson. It is a good thing that you will never have a career as a comic artist, because any book store that has your work in the window should call disease control as they have goten toxic waste on their hands.
 
MMX said:
Dont get me wrong im in no way bashing Herge, he was an interesting guy. He actually did work for the nazis (under threat) but managed to work insults and anti nazi sentiment into their propaganda.
My point is Dobbie holds golden age comics up as something we should aspire to whilst knowing fuck all about it.

This is better in dobbie eyes than new 52 DC
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Of course! Japanese game creators must be slapped for all the sexist garbage they make, such as Quiet's outfit.
 
Mitch Watterson said:
I wonder how well read Dobson is on Tintin, because it doesn't look like something he would support if he had read it all. Early Tintin was fucking insane.
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That one, at least, probably would have escaped Dobson's grasp... I don't think that one would be widely available in America.

UglyOldJafar said:
... I want to shove a bar of soap down his throat till he chokes and then gut him open.
This storify sincerely pisses me off, because I myself actually worked for some time at a comic store and made some of the best friends in life there. Sure, organization was a deal but we had a lot of things. Who the fuck does this guy think he is, if he insults pretty much all comic readers and shop owners, because the one shitty store in his neighborhood did not pander to him. Fuck you, Andrew Dobson. It is a good thing that you will never have a career as a comic artist, because any book store that has your work in the window should call disease control as they have goten toxic waste on their hands.
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I highly doubt the service at said comic store was shitty, either. You can never trust Dobson on anything.
 
Mitch Watterson said:
I wonder how well read Dobson is on Tintin, because it doesn't look like something he would support if he had read it all. Early Tintin was fucking insane.
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Comics back then were way different than they are now :
(This one has a Dobby themed ending)
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MMX said:
Dont get me wrong im in no way bashing Herge, he was an interesting guy. He actually did work for the nazis (under threat) but managed to work insults and anti nazi sentiment into their propaganda.
My point is Dobbie holds golden age comics up as something we should aspire to whilst knowing fuck all about it.

This is better in dobbie eyes than new 52 DC
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I'm surprised he's read those, I figured he'd just be one of those guys who were a fan of the 90s superhero cartoons like Batman TaS and Teen Titans and likes to complain about any reboots.
 
Steamboat_Bill said:
That one, at least, probably would have escaped Dobson's grasp... I don't think that one would be widely available in America.
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Little, Brown & Co. made sure of that when they started publishing Tintin some decades back (the earliest title they would release is Tintin in America which has some non-PC trappings). It wasn't until the "Last Gasp" release of the first two Tintin stories that America saw any of his earlier work.

I highly doubt the service at said comic store was shitty, either. You can never trust Dobson on anything.
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He probably started it.

Pickle Inspector said:
Comics back then were way different than they are now :
(This one has a Dobby themed ending)
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It should be of note the people who read these numbered in the millions and nobody gave a s--t at the content contained herein. That Mickey Mouse comic on top was a daily comic strip published in hundreds of newspapers worldwide BTW.
 
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Tintin au Congo wasn't available in the first English-language edition in the U.S., even if Dobbers actually read Tintin, which I doubt strongly.

I am several years older than Dobbo and remember when there were certain comics stores women tended to avoid, but neither of the stores in Quincy were among them. He just makes shit up wholesale.
 
Tintin gets even weirder if you look into the very first Tintin story ever done. Why? It was called "Tintin and the Russians".
It was propaganda against communism. Not even kidding. Someone gave Herge a book about anti-russian propaganda and told him "make that into a comic".

Also, Herge was forced during WWII to write stories that were actually more or less condamning America. Seeing how Belgium was occupied by the nazis, he would be more or less forced to make enemies in two or three volumes jewish, although he rather decided (because he was against the regime) to go a more subtle way. He did not make open reference to the nazis or made Tintin suddenly a fascist, but in the stories Tintin would face someone who was a criminal, whose reference of being a jew was just a rather jewish name and the fact he would work with some americans in a conspiracy.

Oh, and want to know something else about some comic books that go way past what was writen around 60 years ago? Scrooge McDuck in his original incarnation by Carl Barks had no problem once telling his nephews that he was a robber baron in his youth and he considered it funny.
 
UglyOldJafar said:
He did not make open reference to the nazis or made Tintin suddenly a fascist, but in the stories Tintin would face someone who was a criminal, whose reference of being a jew was just a rather jewish name and the fact he would work with some americans in a conspiracy.
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And they'll never know the joys of waiting for Santa, just like Dobbers' ex-girlfriend!

On a minor note, Herge actually tried to alter a Jewish villain's name in "The Shooting Star" to make it sound less anti-semetic, but ended up accidentally replacing it with a different Jewish name.
 
Or maybe you were the asshole, Dobbo. I think he is so bitter towards "geek culture" because not even nerds like him.
 
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