Anarcho-capitalists - Free markets on steroids, Rothbardian lunacy, and other Ancapistan stupidity

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So basically that story is "I believe strongly in property rights and that one has absolute sole dominion over one's property. That's why I got really upset when people exercised their property rights to remove me from their property"
 
MarineTrainedTard said:
So basically that story is "I believe strongly in property rights and that one has absolute sole dominion over one's property. That's why I got really upset when people exercised their property rights to remove me from their property"
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Libertarian turns out to be hypocritial manchild, film at 11
 
Falcon Lord said:
There are a lot of weird variations of anarchism. I think my favorite is anarcho-primitivism, which advocates for everyone to become stone age hunter-gatherers.
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Zerzan's fun to read and his criticisms of modern culture are pretty thought provoking. That said you'd have to be a complete fucking moron to take primitivism seriously. Only way that's even remotely feasible is if you kill off millions of people.
Dr. Boe Jangles Esq. said:
Exactly. Why would anyone bother with any kind of market in a state of anarchy? You don't need to pay for anything owned by someone who's a worse shot than you are. And if the situation was reversed, why would they offer to let you buy or trade for something? If you had anything they wanted, they'd kill you and take it.
You know, for such an edgy bunch, they're almost overly optimistic. This belief that humans will behave civilly without a society that's built around forcing them to do so is bordering on childlike in it's naivete. I almost envy that level of faith in people; they must have a very pleasant view of the world.
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Head over to r/anarcho_capitalism if you want a laugh. They grapple with this regularly and their "solutions" to that logical conundrum come down to remaking the government, just a government that exists via contracts between businesses (I.E oligarchy). The really hilarious thing is that this kind of process is what a lot of old school communists believe is the genesis of the modern nation state (economically powerful people organizing to protect their own interests).
Every lolbertarian is in favor of some form of authoritarianism once they have to come face to face with the fact that their ideas are total bullshit.
MarineTrainedTard said:
Any time anyone proposes any form of anarchy, whether Anarcho-Capitalism or Anarcho-Communism, or any of its other mutations, all I can think of is Somalia and the current situation in Syria. We have modern, current examples of countries with extremely weak or non-existent central (and regional) governments; look where that's got them. Everyone's champing at the bit to run off to the freedom-filled utopia known as Somalia! .....Wait.
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Believe it or not Syria does have something of a functioning libertarian socialist community in Rojava. That isn't to say it's a utopia by any means imaginable (place is in civil war after all), but the Kurds have actually managed to create a pretty incredible experiment of decentralized government in the midst of all that chaos. Whether it survives long term is a different matter.
Traditionally anarchism isn't so much a lack of government as a kind of direct democracy. Anarchists are actually sticklers for long meetings and procedure. In terms of Somalia the typical anarchist response would be that their problem is too little anarchy, not too much.

That being said every system of government reaches a crisis at some point. Including anarchism. "The job" so to speak is never done. Politics never ends. I think that's the aspect people on all sides of the political spectrum always forget. Plenty of liberal democracies have failed, along with everything else. It's the way of the world.
 
Wallace said:
Wasn't sure where else to put this, I think r/anarchism may be deserving of it's own thread.

15-year-old edgelord can't stop punching people he disagrees with, gets in trouble, and whines.
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r/anarchism is like a repository of every negative stereotype about anarchists.

Once the prince got rinsed it was all over.

The 25th Cyberman said:
Nigga, you just explained the entire existence of the Dark Enlightenment in one sentence. despite the fact that they make ancaps look neurotypical in comparison
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Those motherfuckers strike me as neckbeards who read one too many fantasy novels
 
LGC99 said:
Has anybody seen this? It's old, I know, but hilarious.
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"I'll go to this country where the free market fucked over the entire economy, walk up to anarcho syndicalists and preach total unrestricted free market principles, and a lack of democracy and especially direct democracy, two things that this group would never possibly agree with" This is actually a pretty good representation of how Ancap societies would end up. One guy stands up and says he owns everything, while the people who actually own it tear him down
 
Ancaps are often a joke. Most of those I know of irl are no older than 25 and reply to every dilemma "free markets will solve it". Worst part is that they are the only anarchists where 60% of its base thinks a suit is casual clothing, but still doesn't have a job or is the owner of a tiny failing company. I prefer agorists, they aren't nearly as naive.
 
https://www.reddit.com/r/Anarcho_Capitalism/comments/30wx2c/should_we_support_the_kurd_rebels/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Anarcho_Ca...rchist_volunteers_in_syrian_kurdistan_rojava/

"Why would I want to support a pure democracy that has created perfect equality in it's borders, and is the best working example of Anarchism we have in the modern day? They don't even repress their people and privatize literally everything"

Did you know the closest example to a Anarcho Capitalist society is The Congo Free State? Private property of one man who privatized everything in the nation, including a police force run exclusively by him (Leopold II)
 
Ancaps are batshit insane and make normal libertarians look bad. Case in point these were on the front page of /r/Libertarian because people are sick of them.
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The thing I find funny about these types is that they make a mistake about definitions, not human nature as Communism does, but it's still a silly mistake.

Their platform can be much more easily rendered "utterly unregulated capitalism", which makes no sense.

Capitalism requires some form of organization and structure to self perpetuate because the whole point is to be profitable, hence there needs to be some form of order if only to keep the wheels of the economic model going.

These types are pursuing a fool's errand because capitalism functions best when it has an economic infrastructure as a base, as the whole point is to reward those that IMPROVE the base structure with hard work and investment in said system.

What they want is to slap all the parts of a car together with any form of sealing, bolts, or anything else to hold the body together, expecting it will all adhere together simply because.

That obviously does not work, and capitalism cannot work if you tear down any semblance of order or the basis of one, it's a key feature of capitalism to have a base upon which to develop economically.
 
GethN7 said:
The thing I find funny about these types is that they make a mistake about definitions, not human nature as Communism does, but it's still a silly mistake.

Their platform can be much more easily rendered "utterly unregulated capitalism", which makes no sense.

Capitalism requires some form of organization and structure to self perpetuate because the whole point is to be profitable, hence there needs to be some form of order if only to keep the wheels of the economic model going.
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Unregulated capitalism doesn't mean there is no organization or structure. The question is who controls the organization and structure.

Also, while I do like Hayek, Rothbard and Friedman I do acknowledge it is a utopian idea that probably wouldn't work in Realworldistan.
 
The saddest thing with an-caps is the ones that aren't naive tend to have such little care for most people, especially children. There's a child brothel in your town? Just shun the place and the owner and it will fall. Phooey on those kids and how we could've saved them sooner and their exploiters only get a slap on the wrist.
 
Yaoi Huntress Earth said:
The saddest thing with an-caps is the ones that aren't naive tend to have such little care for most people, especially children. There's a child brothel in your town? Just shun the place and the owner and it will fall. Phooey on those kids and how we could've saved them sooner and their exploiters only get a slap on the wrist.
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Ancaps will usually just be like "oh I ain't touching this" while Randroid types will go in swinging about how children are property. Its a weird subculture with equally weird dynamics.
 
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