Orbiter Amityville / ThatDogGuy - Actual fan or shitposting version of the Bronsgeests?

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What do you think?

  • Amityville is a True & Authentic fan of DSP

    Votes: 22 31.4%

  • Amityville is a True & Authentic sock account that has spent a year creating TKOH drama

    Votes: 48 68.6%
  • Total voters
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neger psykolog

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Is Amityville Phil's greatest fan or greatest detractor? Let's discuss.

Amityville is an alleged deep-plant within the realm of DarksydePhil's extended comics universe. His reputation is such that its actually difficult to tell whether he is a sock account of a detractor playing the part of Phil's "ideal fan" or is actually just an extremely dedicated fan who sees no harm in causing internal dramas and turning away newcomers, which inevitably has the effect of causing long-term harm to DSP.

He has not only posted in profuse defence of Phil at all times, but has also extended comment onto some of Phil's personal life such as after DSP's breakup with Leanna when he titled her as nothing more than a "speedbump".

My opinion is that Amityville is a sock, and having taken that position I've received at least a few posts angry that I would hold this opinion. Whichever opinion you hold, Amityville is easily one of the most divisive members of the DSP extended universe, because he not only remains unbanned on DSP's forums but also says a lot that brings up questions about his legitimacy.

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(a KF post that has since been deleted)​

Despite DSP's forums having a minimal level of activity at best, Amityville has been mentioned on Kiwifarms about 150 times (there are 2-3 mentions of the movie Amityville but almost all are DSP related posts):
https://kiwifarms.net/search/1505948/?page=6&q=amityville&o=relevance


Here's a short collection of opinions about Amityville from Kiwifarms users:


Since joining DSP's forum "The King of Hate" he has successfully managed to not only post reactions to others in blindness defence of DSP:
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But he has also managed to stir up drama within private messages (that were leaked because he signed up using a temporary email service which published all of his emails onto the public internet):
neger psykolog said:
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For some reason a bunch of emails from the tumbleweed forums are on a site called "to-email.com": Apparently Amityville must've signed up for some stupid exceptional ass free email server which dumped all his emails on the fucking OPEN INTERNET:
https://to-email.com/find-email/from-email/thekingofhate.com/admin/ccd45741e4860ae249785440686e37d2

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"And I feel bad for BSV.. I feel lile he has gotten too caught up with people he shouldn't even care about when all they do is stress him out. I remmember him saying stuff like he couldn't take it anymore. Poor guy. "
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As is shown in those screenshots above he has been repeatedly warned by moderators on TKOH forums to stop instigating and causing drama but still remains perhaps the most prominent member of the forums.

During the early 2018 dox saga, Amityville posted a heartfelt message explaining to DSP that due to his anxiety he would no longer be able to participate on DSP's forums:
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However, to this day Amityville is still one of the most frequent posters on Phil's forums.

I've received some speculation in a PM over past events of Amityville being associated with an account that used a picture of a real life dead person, however it is up to the person who shared that story to tell it themselves.
 

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Moritsune said:
He was afraid of getting doxed for sure. Now he feels like he's untouchable and is just smugging all over those shithouse forums. Though again, this could all be an op.
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People who have the foresight to use temporary email services usually don't worry about getting doxed.

Also, of interest are some of Amity's most recent posts:
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https://thekingofhate.com/forums/topic/9-random-thoughts-40/?page=806&tab=comments#comment-100359
http://archive.fo/EJDoy

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https://thekingofhate.com/forums/topic/9-random-thoughts-40/?page=807&tab=comments#comment-100431
http://archive.fo/WLBEH
 
neger psykolog said:
People who have the foresight to use temporary email services usually don't worry about getting doxed.

Also, of interest are some of Amity's most recent posts:
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Yeah those are the actions of a detractor, we have seen the non-existent OP sec that Phil's fans use, Amityville's seem higher than usual, if not necessarily very secure, evidenced by the leak of his PMs.

What exactly is the driver behind his upcoming departure? Is he paranoid of us taking an interest in him?
 
I don't think this guy is exceptional, i just think what he is doing is irrelevant and a waste of time.
 
Being a shitty poster doesn't mean you have to hurt yourself, Amity. The easiest fix to your problems isn't self harm; just stop posting.

I don't see him being a "deep state" actor in the DSP structure. He's been posting like that for so long, that's a genuine person that has a very strong attachment to Phil. Why? No clue, but he comes off as the real deal; a stalwart defender of DSP and his forums.

If he was playing the role of a fake fan, what is his end state? He's no closer to Phil than he was before, most of the people he goes after are very obvious new sock accounts made to try and poke Phil. He's not in any form of inner circle with the folks there, so I don't see the rewards or justification of him being an alt account. Way too much time dedicated to pretending to be an ass kisser of Phil's for 2-3 years.
 
You guys think he's actually a stream regular?? Or just another KG who bums around Phil's forums for no reason.
 
Does it matter if he’s legit or not? The end result is the same either way.

Not being sarcastic btw. What actually changes if he’s a deep cover troll?
 
PoopMagnet said:
Being a shitty poster doesn't mean you have to hurt yourself, Amity. The easiest fix to your problems isn't self harm; just stop posting.

I don't see him being a "deep state" actor in the DSP structure. He's been posting like that for so long, that's a genuine person that has a very strong attachment to Phil. Why? No clue, but he comes off as the real deal; a stalwart defender of DSP and his forums.

If he was playing the role of a fake fan, what is his end state? He's no closer to Phil than he was before, most of the people he goes after are very obvious new sock accounts made to try and poke Phil. He's not in any form of inner circle with the folks there, so I don't see the rewards or justification of him being an alt account. Way too much time dedicated to pretending to be an ass kisser of Phil's for 2-3 years.
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I'd agree with you if it weren't DSP that was the topic of this subforum.

The Bronsgeest's were the most bizarre case, but many of Phil's "detractors" and ex-fans have spent many years either covering his every step in fascination or trying to report him on a daily basis. I've seen people put together evidence dossiers that they send to Twitch and other websites. Even the "detractor" video community is huge and the people who do it manage to post on a daily or weekly basis because they are dedicated.

Whether they do it for fun, or because they actually want to see him lose everything is probably not easily determined. Much like KF, "detractors" are not a hivemind where everyone does the same thing (it'd be silly to not acknowledge that I'm the supervisor of a subforum that exists purely to discuss DSP, so I probably have the same level of fascination as others do)

I guess my point is that a person's popularity often creates a level of magnetism that makes people either blindly love or hate them, all popular people have groups that follow them. DSP's magnetism is unique in that only do the number of people who hate him greatly dwarf his actual fans, but its also unique because of the extent that some people have gone to (29" cardboard dicks).

IMHO the idea that someone would make a sock account (like Amity as an example) and post false sentiments for more than a year "just for the fun of it" and with no actual end goal is entirely possible. It'd be a lot less likely if this weren't DSP we were talking about, but after all I've seen just in the past 3 months I do not think that Amityville being a dedicated sock account would actually be that unlikely.

gobbogobb said:
Does it matter if he’s legit or not? The end result is the same either way.

Not being sarcastic btw. What actually changes if he’s a deep cover troll?
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You're right that nothing really changes. I guess if definitive proof came out they might disappear. But I guess the fascination in Amityville is deciding whether you believe him to be a dedicated detractor or adamant fan.

The only reason that its an interesting question to begin with is that even Phil's most ardent fans and supporters have managed to get frustrated by him at times. I don't think Amity ever has.
 
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If someone can scrounge up older and similar posts from before his "goodbye from a fan"-post, I'll believe he has always been a detractor. If not, it's an account takeover or he decided to stick it to Phil from that point forward. There's no way the posts he's making this year aren't undermining with a diamond-tipped drill.

As for the "I'll be gone soon"-development, it sounds more like he's going to an hero, or at least wants people to think that because of a sad and lonely life (he is on the KoH forums, after all - you'd have to move to the Moon to top that)
 
Have we ever seen amyitville and phil on at the same time, he talks as if hes eaten all of phils waste produce and inheritted his speach patterns, hes an ACTUAL drone.
 
If we're going by the dox harvest and the revelation of the appearances and economic standing of Phil's fans, then he's gotta look like a character right out of Deliverance. Assuming of course he's not a detractor pulling some elaborate LARP; though to pull such a long op on a lolcow like Phil I don't know if the alternative is any better.
 
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Have we ever seen amyitville and phil on at the same time, he talks as if hes eaten all of phils waste produce and inheritted his speach patterns, hes an ACTUAL drone.
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Ok amityville as a Phil sock would be some epic shit I gotta admit. I doubt Phil has the patience though.
 
@BSV said he was happy for me to post this, which was sent to me via a DM earlier:
Another thing you are blissfully unaware of is that amnity ville and that dog guy are trolls. They are not friends with phil. They like to create drama not counter act it. They are being parodies of fans in order to make phil look bad. I gave up at one point weeding them out. And to make people aware of them. Because they just came back. Best example i have to prove that these guys are roll players is the character they used that was called "Ivor Dehaney" They took a dead guys photo, and claimed to be some underprivileged black guy. And the worst part of it was that the guy who was dead was also named ivor dehaney. The picture on the forum was promptly changed to the britain got talent guy after this was pointed out. But belive me it wasn't always so. I found out doing a reverse image search on the picture they used.
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Picture of the dead guy:
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Ivor Dehaney

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https://thekingofhate.com/forums/topic/4276-content/?page=2
http://archive.fo/9OqlY
 
This all makes me slightly uncomfortable thinking what's going to be happening when Amity's deadline is up.

Guy's already autistic enough to do this long con, this ain't just a Dutch power couple no more.
 
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