Culture Americans' confidence in college plummets - 4-in-10 see ‘negative impact’ on nation

A new Pew Research Center survey found that nearly 4-in-10 think colleges and universities have a “negative impact” on the country, up from 26% in 2012.

As many freshmen flock to colleges across the country, new surveys show that Americans are losing confidence in higher education and a growing number see it having a negative impact on the nation.

In fact, a new Pew Research Center survey found that nearly 4-in-10 think colleges and universities have a “negative impact” on the country, up from 26% in 2012.

And Gallup agreed, said Pew, finding that between 2015 and 2018, the share of Americans that had confidence in higher education dropped from 57% to 48%.

What Pew said the two found in common is the explosion of partisanship, seen in politics and daily life, now impacting the view of higher education.

Republicans, for example, have a negative view of colleges and universities.

Said Pew, “The share of Americans saying colleges and universities have a negative effect has increased by 12 percentage points since 2012. The increase in negative views has come almost entirely from Republicans and independents who lean Republican. From 2015 to 2019, the share saying colleges have a negative effect on the country went from 37% to 59% among this group. Over that same period, the views of Democrats and independents who lean Democratic have remained largely stable and overwhelmingly positive.”

The divide has led to a clash over the value of higher education. For example, those interviewed said the experience helped them grow personally but didn’t help them land a job.

Pew’s bottom line:

“The partisan gaps underlying these views are reflective of our politics more broadly. From health care to the environment to immigration and foreign policy, Republicans and Democrats increasingly see the issues of the day through different lenses. But views on the nation’s educational institutions have not traditionally been politicized. Higher education faces a host of challenges in the future – controlling costs amid increased fiscal pressures, ensuring that graduates are prepared for the jobs of the future, adapting to changing technology and responding to the country’s changing demographics. Ideological battles waged over the climate and culture on college campuses may make addressing these broader issues more difficult.”

 

[PN 801]

The divide has led to a clash over the value of higher education. For example, those interviewed said the experience helped them grow personally but didn’t help them land a job.

college is now a daycare centre for young adults.

news at 101.

 

[Freddy Freaker]

I'm sure it has nothing to do with all the marxists and dangerhairs getting pumped out of our universities. It's the dumb flyover state hicks who are afraid of brave beautiful educated transwomyn of latinx color

 

[NerdShamer]

And this folks, is why sane people say classes on philosophy and gender studies are overrated.

 

[dreamworks face]

The system is fucked in the US because the government made it impossible to discharge student loans through bankruptcy. This made it so there was no incentive for the people who were giving loans to decide if the subject being studied would allow the student to pay back the loan, and no incentive for the college to prepare students for the workforce aside. Now our tax dollars are paying for the meth-addled tranny latina hookers of the world to get gender studies degrees.

 

[Meat Poultry Veg]

The elephant in the living room here is how fucking expensive college tuitions are [in America]. Of course the partisanship is awful, but having to mortgage your future just to tick a box on a job description is worse.

It's all of the punishment and humiliation of paying for a dominatrix with none of the "fun." (Or so I am told).

From an American perspective, the disaster of American kids checking out of college means more room for zhongs and pajeets to find a backdoor into getting permanent residency.

 

[Shadfan666xxx000]

The elephant in the living room here is how fucking expensive college tuitions are [in America]. Of course the partisanship is awful, but having to mortgage your future just to tick a box on a job description is worse.

It's all of the punishment and humiliation of paying for a dominatrix with none of the "fun." (Or so I am told).

From an American perspective, the disaster of American kids checking out of college means more room for zhongs and pajeets to find a backdoor into getting permanent residency.

Doubtful. Call me optimistic but this country has such a deluge of college graduates in both Gen X and the millennial generation that we could expect more or less of a continuation of that sector of the workforce even after the boomers retire.
Edit: can't write

 

[Sexy Senior Citizen]

Americans, on the whole, are a trusting society, and will take you at face value. However, for the past 50+ years, that trust has been mercilessly abused in the name of power.
They're making their bed as we speak. Soon, they will be forced to lie in it.

 

[Thomas Paine]

"Nearly 4-in-10"
Yeah, sounds like some motherfucker could use some more college.
~40%. FTFY

 

[The Last Stand]

College debt via loans increasing but costs remain the same, authoritarian professors indoctrinating students, useless degrees en masse, cost of living increasing, young people losing faith via the older generation. Yet nobody wants to fix it. Just blame young people and liberals.

 

[TerribleIdeas™]

And this folks, is why sane people say classes on philosophy and gender studies are overrated.

If philosophy classes actually taught critical thinking, instead of postmodernism and linguistic fuckery, they might have marginal value. Maybe.

 

[Buttigieg2020]

College debt via loans increasing but costs remain the same, authoritarian professors indoctrinating students, useless degrees en masse, cost of living increasing, young people losing faith via the older generation. Yet nobody wants to fix it. Just blame young people and liberals.

Blaming young people is certainly unfair, but it’s liberals who are trying to fix a problem caused by student loans keeping demand high regardless of price by doubling down. At least conservatives have the token solution of trade school and alternative career paths.

 

[Exigent Circumcisions]

If philosophy classes actually taught critical thinking, instead of postmodernism and linguistic fuckery, they might have marginal value. Maybe.

If public education taught critical thinking in fifth grade there would be far fewer people taking up useless college degrees.

 

[Maxliam]

If philosophy classes actually taught critical thinking, instead of postmodernism and linguistic fuckery, they might have marginal value. Maybe.

Philosophy actually isn't a bad thing to teach. The problem is most classes scratch the surface and don't give the real meat and potatoes for critical thought. Philosophy did help pave the way for modern scientific methods and political systems that we take for granted now. It doesn't help that philosophy professors tend to be the most liberal of professors so they only teach their own slant on the subject.

In general, college can be useful if you go for a useful trade/skill such as accounting, law, medicine, etc. but the problem is that the over saturation of students means that degrees lose their value at showing someone who distinguishes themselves in the academic sense.

If public education taught critical thinking in fifth grade there would be far fewer people taking up useless college degrees.

Also this, grade schools don't teach critical thought, they teach the tests the state mandates.

 

[Babyspackle]

If public education taught critical thinking in fifth grade there would be far fewer people taking up useless college degrees.

I feel like that would be low on the list of problems that would be eliminated though. fuck

 

[thismanlies]

Republicans, for example, have a negative view of colleges and universities.

Who knew that being openly hostile towards a group of people would make them dislike you? Good thing statisticians are here to tell us this stuff.

 

[Draza]

The whole education system needs a overhual.

 

[Maxliam]

I feel like that would be low on the list of problems that would be eliminated though. fuck

Well also don't let niggers into your school. Blacks really are the D students of humanity.

Who knew that being openly hostile towards a group of people would make them dislike you? Good thing statisticians are here to tell us this stuff.

Yeah, it's shocking right? I mean shit....who would have saw that coming?

 

[Ughubughughughughughghlug]

LOL I'm trying to become a professor (don't d0x pl0x) and even I agree.

Bryan Caplan has an argument that most of the economic value that comes from education doesn't actually exist. Like, you know that argument they make that more education correlates to more production from workers? He argues that it's not the education that does that (except for specific jobs training, like engineering degrees or trade school), but instead education is a correlate with other traits that make you more productive.

Basically, the value of education is in acting as a signalling mechanism for potential employees to demonstrate their superiority to other competitors.

In that sense, it may still be a bit valuable, in the same sense that advertising is. But there's clearly a gross oversupply of it.

 

[industrial_holocaust]

The elephant in the living room here is how fucking expensive college tuitions are [in America]. Of course the partisanship is awful, but having to mortgage your future just to tick a box on a job description is worse.

It's all of the punishment and humiliation of paying for a dominatrix with none of the "fun." (Or so I am told).

From an American perspective, the disaster of American kids checking out of college means more room for zhongs and pajeets to find a backdoor into getting permanent residency.

You think curry niggers and chinks need their kids going to college to gain citizenship? The ones that do have them in college are the ones the jews are selling top property off to. They are already wealthy coming here, sure most are just mainland poverty class being offloaded due to overpopulation in their own Countries, but, the future sellers of USA intelligence to foreign powers are the children of already wealthy hostile foreigners.