American Manned Spaceflight returns on May 27

https://twitter.com/JimBridenstine/status/1251178705633841167

BREAKING: On May 27, @NASA will once again launch American astronauts on American rockets from American soil! With our @SpaceX partners, @Astro_Doug and @AstroBehnken will launch to the @Space_Station on the #CrewDragon spacecraft atop a Falcon 9 rocket. Let's #LaunchAmerica

NASA's Commercial Crew Program is comprised of two, redundant systems: SpaceX's Crew Dragon & Boeing's Starliner. Crew Dragon will be launching its first manned mission on May 27 or thereabouts. Boeing is still at least a year out from a manned mission with Starliner as it has to redo its demonstration mission sometime in the Fall after massively fucking up in December.

The Economics of Commercial Crew really demonstrate how badly (or successfully, based on viewpoint) Boeing is shitting the bed:

Boeing's per-seat price already seemed like it would cost more than SpaceX. The company has received a total of $4.82 billion from NASA over the lifetime of the commercial crew program, compared to $3.14 billion for SpaceX. However, for the first time the government has published a per-seat price: $90 million for Starliner and $55 million for Dragon. Each capsule is expected to carry four astronauts to the space station during a nominal mission.

What is notable about Boeing's price is that it is also higher than what NASA has paid the Russian space corporation, Roscosmos, for Soyuz spacecraft seats to fly US and partner-nation astronauts to the space station. Overall, NASA paid Russia an average cost per seat of $55.4 million for the 70 completed and planned missions from 2006 through 2020. Since 2017, NASA has paid an average of $79.7 million.

Beyond these seat prices, Inspector General Paul Martin's report also notes that Boeing received additional funding from NASA, above and beyond its fixed-price award.

https://arstechnica.com/science/201...boeing-seat-prices-are-60-higher-than-spacex/

Simply put, Boeing has received 60% of Commercial Crew funding compared to SpaceX's ~37% without including the additional funding from NASA and charging a per-seat price well in excess of what the US pays Russia.

edit: not sure why the tweet isn't unfurling, it was working in the preview. I've put the tweet in quotes.

 

[melty]

 

[Absolutego]

Boeing's using it as part of their justification for opening up early against Inslee's orders, which is sure to cause great local drama and at worst will result in whatever's left in Everett and Tukwila moving to join everyone else in Chicago.

 

[OG Swolemaster]

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Boeing should've been allowed to go under a long time ago. They haven't actually designed a relevant military aircraft since the B-29.

All the shit they make today was designed by companies they bought or are just nigger-rigged converted airliners.

 

[TowinKarz]

Am disappointed.

See, by "manned spaceflight" I thought they meant they were finally going to start firing troons into the sun.....

 

[Buttigieg2020]

Well at least SpaceX is getting the job done. It’s fantastic that we will finally have the capability to do manned launches in the US again.

 

[Radical Cadre]

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[tuscangarder]

Communist rockets do it better.

NASA murdered 14 astronauts via capitalism

What happens when a communist rocket fails: It has a safety mechanism to protect the astronauts

What happens when a capitalist rocket fails : You free fall to your death for 5 minutes while completely conscious.

 

[Cedric_Eff]

Communist rockets do it better.

NASA murdered 14 astronauts via capitalism

But that still doesn’t stop the fact that Soyuz 1, 11 and the Nedelin catastrophe occurred.

 

[tuscangarder]

But that still doesn’t stop the fact that Soyuz 1, 11 and the Nedelin catastrophe occurred.

Nasa has a higher death count. lol.

USA depends on communist rockets to get to space for a reason. NASA privately contracted rockets sucked and murdered people. The space shuttle itself was a capitalist death trap. The faulty design was only used because they wanted to charge corporations money to launch satellites in it.

 

[Cedric_Eff]

Nasa has a higher death count. lol.

USA depends on communist rockets to get to space for a reason. Theirs sucked and murdered people. The space shuttle itself was a capitalist death trap. The faulty design was only used because they wanted to charge corporations money to launch satellites in it.

Nedelin catastrophe is still a thing. Hundreds of ground workers died in that one. Soyuz 1 slammed into the earth.

 

[tuscangarder]

Nedelin catastrophe is still a thing. Hundreds of ground workers died in that one. Soyuz 1 slammed into the earth.

You're not getting that the Nedelin thing was an accident. NASA launched astronauts willingly and neglectfully knowing down right they could die because they were flying in a capitalist death trap.

 

[Radical Cadre]

Nasa has a higher death count. lol.

USA depends on communist rockets to get to space for a reason. Theirs sucked and murdered people. The space shuttle itself was a capitalist death trap.

You're not getting that the Nedelin thing was an accident. NASA launched astronauts willingly and neglectfully knowing down right they could die because they were flying in a capitalist death trap.

Please understand fellow Kiwis, this is all the committed Communist has in the 21st century. Let them have their fun and don't be too mean or point out that Russia hasn't been a Communist state for a quarter century and that the Soyuz-2 is not in fact a Soviet rocket. The 21st century Communist cries out in pain as he strikes you.

 

[Sexual Chocolate]

Nasa has a higher death count. lol.

"There's just no way the guys who lied about everything would lie about the number of fatalities in their space program!"

The space shuttle itself was a capitalist death trap.

I guess that's why the Soviets copied it:

 

[tuscangarder]

"There's just no way the guys who lied about everything would lie about the number of fatalities in their space program!"



I guess that's why the Soviets copied it:

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lmao, they didn't use that piece of shit for a reason. Plus their design was better than the American.

 

[Radical Cadre]

Also worth noting that the lame ideological junk that just got spooged all over this thread totally glosses over a very interesting discussion about the different specializations of the defunct Soviet space program versus the American space program. They each went in somewhat different directions, with the Soviets developing very good life support technology for use in their space station projects; whereas the Americans developed powerful rockets and probes designed to traverse large distances at great speeds with accurate reporting capabilities.

Merging the Soviet knowledge of space station technology with American rocketry technology is part of what has allowed the international space station collaborations to be so successful. It's also really neat how each program was able to accomplish the things that they did with what we would consider ancient technology by today's standards.

 

[TowinKarz]

But that still doesn’t stop the fact that Soyuz 1, 11 and the Nedelin catastrophe occurred.

Or the N1 never managing a single successful launch....

lmao, they didn't use that piece of shit for a reason. Plus their design was better than the American.

They only launched it once because they ran out of money..... it accomplished it's single test flight on auto-pilot the whole way, it was a veyr promising platform, ruined by the collapse of the government that built it.

Though expecting a smart commie at this point, what was I thinking?

 

[Cedric_Eff]

lmao, they didn't use that piece of shit for a reason. Plus their design was better than the American.

You’re not dissing the Buran are you? This bad boy can operate without the shuttle! For fucks sake, the fuel tanks and boosters are launch vehicles of their own!

You're not getting that the Nedelin thing was an accident.

“Accident”

Oh yeah, sitting right up to a rocket launch was such a good idea.

 

[Sug Benis]

You're not getting that the Nedelin thing was an accident. NASA launched astronauts willingly and neglectfully knowing down right they could die because they were flying in a capitalist death trap.

Friendly reminder that Vladimir Komarov asked for an open casket burial "so they could see what they had done" and Yuri Gagarin refused to back out solely because he refused to let his backup pilot die. He's a hero not just because he went to space, but because he did so believing that he was sacrificing his life to save a friend.

 

[tuscangarder]

Friendly reminder that Vladimir Komarov asked for an open casket burial "so they could see what they had done" and Yuri Gagarin refused to back out solely because he refused to let his backup pilot die. He's a hero not just because he went to space, but because he did so believing that he was sacrificing his life to save a friend.

Friendly remember that NASA was told the Challenger would explode at launch and launched anyway. They also knew the rockets had a design prone to failure but never redesigned cuz capitalism.