American Impeachment/25th Amendment Watch 2021 - If, at first, you don't convict, try, try again

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What will happen to Donald Trump in the next two weeks?

  • The House of Representatives impeaches and the Senate convicts

    Votes: 23 8.6%

  • The House of Representatives impeaches and the Senate acquits

    Votes: 17 6.3%

  • The US Cabinet invokes the 25th amendment

    Votes: 11 4.1%

  • House of Representative and/or Senate censures the President

    Votes: 14 5.2%

  • President Trump resigns

    Votes: 11 4.1%

  • Trump continues as President until Jan. 20, with Biden becoming President afterwards

    Votes: 165 61.3%

  • Trump finds a way to continue being President after Jan. 20

    Votes: 28 10.4%
  • Total voters
    269
  • Poll closed .
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First thing that comes up when I type “Trump impeachment meme”
 
Menotaur said:
I don't disagree with anything you are saying but the SC has to look at the overall intent of the legislation. If anyone could resign and walk away from any consequence it rules the idea of consequence as moot and thus not in-line with the many other aspects of the constitution.
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That's not what impeachment is for. It is not punitive. Its purpose is to remove a president who has egregiously abused the position from office before their term is up and potentially keep them out (the second vote whether to bar for office or not is predicated on the president being removed by congress, not independent of it). If they voluntarily resign that same goal is met rendering impeachment moot. That's, quite literally, what happened with Nixon. They had the votes to convict in the senate. He resigned instead of going through impeachment.

If a president violated laws in office (i.e. actually has something to be held legally accountable for), their being held accountable is to be done through the criminal and judicial system once they are out of office.

That's made extremely clear in the constitution by the limits placed upon impeachment and its consequences. It is not a punitive process.
 
Menotaur said:
Mitch is going to destroy Trump. This is the only thing I am certain of. He may destroy himself and his party in the process, but destroy him he will. He isn't losing the donors who give him money for Trump - if Trump is bad for business then he goes out with the garbage.
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If this reporting on this topic is accurate (and that's a big "if-"even at this point easily half of all writing about Trump is just journoshit fanfiction) then he's certainly going to try. If he succeeds, the next part will be the confused look on his face when absolutely nothing improves and Schumer tells him that because he supported Cheeto Hitler for four years, a little act of contrition like impeaching him at the 11th hour and throwing millions of his supporters under the bus isn't nearly enough, how about he produce a "bipartisan" vote for 7 new SCOTUS justices and check back to see if maybe, maybe the Democrats and their corporate minions will forgive him a little bit?

And he'll do it, because the GOPe has worse pattern recognition than Charlie Brown.

To quote one wag on Twitter: "at this point, by 2022, the Democrats are going to be stuffing the ballot boxes with Republican votes just to maintain the pretense that it's not a one-party state."
 
I can't believe that in the age of civil unrest and people losing their jobs, the democratic party seems more interested in tea bagging a president who will be out in a week. I mean I can totally believe that but it's outlandish.
 
Eric Swalwell: "Trump is inciting people just like Bin Laden. MAGA chuds are Al-Qaeda. Ready for the drone strikes of love and peace? Also, I just took my dick out of a ChiCom spy and don't know what 'incitement' means under the law."

 
Wait, help me out here.

A guy who was literally in bed with a Chinese spy is one of the impeachment managers against Trump. Do I have this correct?
 
Ridge Racer said:
I can't believe that in the age of civil unrest and people losing their jobs, the democratic party seems more interested in tea bagging a president who will be out in a week. I mean I can totally believe that but it's outlandish.
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Those are features, not glitches, for the DNC.
 
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CNN is providing the naughty list of the Republicans who didn't play ball. Archive.
  1. Rep. Adam Kinzinger of Illinois
  2. Rep. Liz Cheney of Wyoming
  3. Rep. John Katko of New York
  4. Rep. Fred Upton of Michigan
  5. Rep. Jaime Herrera Beutler of Washington
  6. Rep. Dan Newhouse of Washington
  7. Rep. Peter Meijer of Michigan
  8. Rep. Anthony Gonzalez of Ohio
  9. Rep. Tom Rice of South Carolina
  10. Rep. David Valadao of California
 
I fully expect this to progress with the Senate voting to convict in a delusional gambit to prevent Trump from exerting control over the Republican party and preventing a 2024 run. This will damage the party in very costly ways, the establishment doesn't really understand how much of a pied piper Trump has become for the common rabble. They've switched from being Republican voters to Trump voters -- there is a real chance that Trump could spin off a new political party as well. This can go sideways quick... the best option was censure. I don't really see much upsides for actually doing this nonsense.
 
It's utter nonsense. The purpose of impeachment is actually to remove some particularly noxious President. The Dems already lost their chance at that. So impeaching him twice? What does that do? Literally fucking nothing. It's an embarrassment. It is a complete abuse of the process.
 
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