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I can't wait to see how they handwave away Cooper surviving being fucking impaled through the gut. His resilience was already stretching belief but now it's jumping the shark territory.

My guess is the mind controlled homeless guy is going to pull him off the telephone pole and just wave a fusion core over him and he'll be good as new.

They showed fisto fucker holding a fusion core in his introduction scene so I'm calling chekhovs gun.
 
End last episode on the stinger of 'Oh shit, Deathclaws'. Start the next episode on them easily escaping the Deathclaws.

It's good to know that, after countless tests of doing the same thing, Hank's device just suddenly works now.

So, did the bartender just confirm that Yes-Man ruled for a while? Also, how has the NCR and Legion been passing around owning the strip? Whoever wins New Vegas cripples the other faction and controls the Strip with the upgraded securitrons. And outside of the House/Independent ending, the losing faction is driven out of Vegas. Why was House obsessed with the platinum chip if it actually was worthless in defending New Vegas?

This doubly makes no sense with the state of both factions in this show. There's no way the Legion war could have started recently, any way Caesar died would have been years ago and they've been stuck in their TF2 war since then, and the NCR has been destroyed for over 20 years.

Okay, so it's confirmed that Mauldova was what was left of the NCR. How come the Mojave guys didn't know about her? They've been radio silent since Shady Sands was nuked. Did she not try to gather reinforcements instead of getting random raiders?

Why would you leave one of the revolutionary technology that could be crucial to state of the world chained to one bumbling assistant with no protection?

Point to the season, they decided to back pedal on House/Vault Tech being the ones to drop the bombs (though everyone sans House were still planning to since Bud is the guy heading the management plan and isn't apart of the secret villain group). Though the "There's actually a super secret third faction who've been manipulating events all along!" plot twist is making my eyes roll to the back of my head. And, of course, House never mentions this shit to the Courier when monologuing about how the world ended despite how he'd totally brag about discovering this. I'm saying secret third group cus I feel like they wouldn't be beating around the bush about asking who it could possibly be if it was just the Enclave.

I know House's calculations have always been a bit vague in the method; but are they just making him fucking magic now? What the hell do you mean 'My data predicted the end of the world, but the date changed the moment you internally made the decision to go to Vegas and I have no idea how'. If your computer is calculating something, it should be able to show you the workings. And somehow a baby being born affects the data? Cooper's daughter is apparently super special and important to how the world ends for mysterious reasons now.

House loses his composure and starts ranting like a little bitch because Cooper called him crazy.

Why is House bringing Cooper in on all this anyway? As far as he's concerned, Cooper is some worthless actor who's about to make a clumsy attempt to kill him and could very well leak House's information to any of his enemies. It's not like Cooper would have any insight to any of this, and House knows this.

Lucy has her 'Oh no, what have I become!?' moment because she... defends herself from a robber who just murdered the shop owner. Though, to be fair, she wouldn't have had to shoot him if she didn't act like a retard and directly confront the killer on being a killer and correcting him on how his story doesn't make sense when all she wants to do is fucking leave.

I'm confused, didn't the dude in Norm's group already figure out that Norm was full of shit? Wasn't that whole spiel with the 'Oh, but you totally know about phase 2, don't you?' a thinly veiled 'I know you're lying, don't tempt me to expose you' threat?

Hank holds the Ghoul's family hostage to make him send Lucy back to her vault, and Lucy acts like this is some big betrayal. You guys haven't bonded, Lucy's just bitched at him 24/7 while he's occasionally nodded along and rolled his eyes. And yeah, of course he's going to choose his family over you, dumbass. "I FAWHT WEH WUR FWIEEEEENDS!"

Though why the fuck does Hank want her to return to Vault 32? He hasn't had a chance to check on the state of it. Last time he saw it, Mauldova and her band of raiders were wrecking it. As far as he knows, the Vault is no longer safe. Why wouldn't he want Lucy down in his apparently super secure vault that no one can get to without him?
 
TheAmbiguousLurker said:
I'm confused, didn't the dude in Norm's group already figure out that Norm was full of shit? Wasn't that whole spiel with the 'Oh, but you totally know about phase 2, don't you?' a thinly veiled 'I know you're lying, don't tempt me to expose you' threat?
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It's pretty simple really, let me explain the fault in your logic. You used logic. The writers didn't.
 
Serbian Peacekeepers said:
Episode 5 came out and we learn that the totally-not-Mr-House guy we've seen in the bar and the Veterans Hall bathroom is actually Robert House, please pretend to be shocked. He talks with Cooper and directly says Vault-Tec and the other companies at the meeting from season 1 will not end the world. House implies Cooper's wife, the shadowy group behind the deathclaw *cough* The Enclave *cough*, and possibly even Howard himself will actually cause the end of the world. House talks about how he uses his tech to predict the future through math and shit, because his motto is that the House always wins, but he's starting to think he isn't actually the House in this situation.

Freeside is also still around, bit more crowded and ran down, but still together. Lucy goes to steal some addictol from a store and ends up shooting the fake store owner dead after finding the real store owner's cut up body. She goes to the ghoul's room at the Atomic Wrangler where she's informed that the ghoul has agreed to take her back to Vault 33 under threat by Hank, who threatens to kill both Cooper's wife and daughter, who are in the Vault under Vegas. Lucy gets shot with a tranq dart by the ghoul, but due to the addictol it takes a while to work on her, so she punches the ghoul out a window with the Power Fist she also stole, He gets impaled on a pole through the abdomen. Hank then Kidnaps Lucy after she finally passes out.

Also it's confirmed that Future Enterprises Ventures is, in fact, code for the Forced Evolutionary Virus.

I think the show played it's hand way too early in showing that The Enclave was still around in season 1, as it's clear they are setting up the Enclave as the big bad for the latter half of Season 2.
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I'm glad House didn't drop the bombs. The Enclave (Deep state) probably did it.
I'm at peace.
I think one of the many predictions I arrived at in this post might end up coming true regarding the mind control tech. House gave them an unfinished prototype or intentionally flawed device to throw them off in order to better build up his own protections for Vegas. I made a bunch of guesses in that thread. I might've gone in too hard on Moldaver being a secret villain though but we'll see. If the House body double dies after giving Vault Tec the mind control chip in the next episode then I'm going to double down on her being a member of the Enclave because House is basically helping to save the world in spite of their desires.

Also man in the shadows is almost definitely not House.

My main reason for watching this show was to make sure they didn't commit to this shit and I'm glad they didn't.
My predictions:
1) Maximus and Thaddeus arrive in Vegas, Ghoul gets off of pole to save Lucy with Maximus. He might do this because Thaddeus helps him get off the pole using his power armour of his own volition, much to Maximus' chagrin. Or Maximus may interrogate him beforehand to learn the location of Lucy, and threaten to leave the Ghoul where he is unless the Ghoul tells him or helps him to save her, which he agrees to. The Ghoul exposits next to a fire about himself to the pair

2) The power armour looks visually different in the trailer because it's been bolstered up to tangle with Deathclaws, where the suit by itself isn't enough (a Yaoi Guai fucked up Titus in episode 1) These retrofits are done in the store where Lucy stole the power fist from. It's either been ransacked so what we see is salvage pretty much or it's otherwise left as is by the time they're all in there. The decision to trade the Brotherhood helmet for an NCR one is made by Maximus based on cutting ties to the BoS.

alt 1 & 2) Otherwise the suit will just get damaged under some other circumstance. Predicting all possibilities, the Ghoul could damage it, with Maximus instigating a fight after the ghoul has already freed himself because last he saw of Lucy was in the Ghoul's presence, who could've seen as her kidnapper. Maximus has the cold fusion thingie (and thus a means of potentially saving the Ghoul's family and/or Lucy, at least via bargaining) and so the Ghoul helps Maximus based on that.

3) The game plan is to get to the 38 because the Ghoul believes House knows where this Vault-tec bunker is, or at least knows a means of accessing it.

4) House is dead/not on. Two possibilities: Maximus, without thinking, may put the cold fusion thingie into the 38 receptacle, switching him on. (It'll be that shot in the trailer where the Ghoul is about to leave and suddenly House is smiling behind him on screen). Alternatively (if alt 1&2 is more correct) the Ghoul may get the plan to revive House by putting it in the receptacle, see it not work, and then House comes on just as he's about to leave.

Whether this is House or an AI I don't know. What we saw in the trailer could just be a video message by House to Goggins because House somehow predicted this or something lmao. If it's House himself then House survives regardless of the FNV ending so I'm leaning toward AI so technically they can remain true to not making any ending canon. This'll be almost too based since I'm seeing a trajectory here where a benevolent House AI is basically going to be a thing and all the redditors can seethe that House wins, even when he's dead lmao.

5) A prediction based on House fanboying: Brotherhood/Legion attack Vegas, or Vegas is going to be between them. Lucky 38 receptacle to re-activate Vegas' defences. The Brotherhood blimps are shot down by House or something - laser turrets on the 38 or whatever remains of House's missile stockpile. We'll get a shot of Vegas all lit up like pre-war due to the cold fusion tech powering the city. If the House that comes online is an AI, then it's one with a single objective: protect Vegas. Alternatively it becomes a 3-way Legion vs BoS vs Securitron scuffle and all sides are bad because war is bad or something.

Broad stroke guesses based entirely on vibes:
1) Blond overseer is going to get apprehended by other dwellers for her crimes. I'm predicting she dies being crushed between vault doors. Total Chetdemption.
2) Lucy's dad dies. Enclave does it, maybe. He has one thing left in the whole word he cares about (family) and so he'll get killed for that. Maybe they ask him to put a mind control chip on himself as a show of loyalty and they ask him to dispose of her, which he dies resisting?
3) Indian guy is going to be revealed to still be alive but is now retarded due to having his skull caved in. We see him being content pulling bottlecaps off of soda bottles in power armour. This is how we discover the children are all well and good.
4) Legion attack Vegas. Too many possible payoffs but I'm guessing they battle with the Brotherhood. I think House will take down the blimps, then the Deathclaws are let loose and they cull the rest. This'll clear out the strip for implied resettlement by the Freeside populace. The cold fusion will be placed within the Lucky 38 receptacle.
If 4) is true, then 5) The NCR will be rebuilt out of Vegas. This is sickening.
5) The cryopods aren't just cryopods, they're simulators. The ghoul enters one, interacts with his wife and daughter and ultimately decides it's best to leave them be in a simulated utopia rather than bring them out into the real world. Whether they're aware it's real or not is up in the air. He resolves to help Lucy take out the Enclave so that nothing can threaten their safety again. Since the placement was decided in advance, the Ghoul will see there's a named pod specifically for him. If he doesn't get in it here to interact with his family, he might do so in the final season to live happily ever after with his family in stasis. Alternatively they are just cryopods and he decides to leave them in cryo because the world is fucked up and he'd prefer them in the safety of statis even if it means not seeing them again.
6) There is an actual NCR battalion somewhere and the two rangers weren't talking crazy.

They've got 3 episodes left. We still need to see Culkin become Caesar, Maximus vs Deathclaw, the defrosted vault dwellers scuffling with roaches, Lucy meeting a mysterious hooded figure, blonde Overseer running away in wedding dress and Thaddeus's neck vagina. This isn't even to mention the:
1) Payoff for Brotherhood shit
2) Legion payoff
3) Chet arc & Vault plot payoff
4) Norm arc payoff
5) Children left behind in bottlecap factory
6) Flashback plot payoff
7) Moldaver plot payoff still ongoing from season 1
8) House payoff
 
It would be incredibly amusing if they reveal that the ghoul is actually courier 6 (a au if you will) who just ran away from his destiny all along.

Maybe they will do an episode dedicated to the battle of Hoover dam to explain why everything is so fucked up as it is, but I doubt it. It just doesn't make sense for new vegas to be a complete disaster if the courier was involved at all. That's not even taking into account the big upgrades he got at the big MIT which is referenced in the show. That's why the show being an AU to the events of new vegas makes more sense than it somehow taking place after it.
 
I'm honestly curious if normies who have never touched the games even know what the fuck is going on in S2. All the House/Enclave/Vault-Tec conspiracies seem like they would wildly confuse people who just want to watch a fun little post-apocalyptic Western.
 
TheAmbiguousLurker said:
End last episode on the stinger of 'Oh shit, Deathclaws'. Start the next episode on them easily escaping the Deathclaws.
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Deathclaws had thus far:
>saved pre-war Cooper
>chased Lucy and Ghoul out of their territory
>will fight Maximus in the next or penultimate episode, but Maximus will survive, obviously

If the "bad guy" has yet to kill a "good guy" in a narrative, or commit some otherwise heinous action, they effectively exist as neutral in the story context to use as a tool or cement as evil later. As a tool they can end up being the "good guy" in the context of a greater evil or something. The fact they have yet to kill anyone we care about is probably leaving the door open enough for us to "cheer" for them at some point.

We saw in the trailer that Culkin stabs a guy in the gut, and has also slit the throat of some slave, so he has more tallies of "evil" than the Deathclaws who has 0. I'm guessing Culkin is going to die at the hands of a Deathclaw.

Writers need to justify the moral reaction/audience attitude for every character, even if it's retroactive. Lucy, for instance, was straight up just stealing in this episode, but the writers make her morally clean by having the guy who'd be angered by her theft already dead and her subsequent kill in self-defence of the murderer. The Ghoul slashing that man's throat in the hospital was justified by him being the slave's keeper, and he pays for using the other as a human yield by not receiving the stimpack + she dies anyway so the life he would have taken is moot because it would've been taken anyway.

Social media has made modern writers a lot more obsessive about their characters not being "unscrupulous" even if they're only vindicated in hindsight. The worst-case scenario for them is something like Rorschach from Watchmen, a character whose worst actions are racism and are otherwise told to the consumer, but on-screen/on-page we only see him kill a child-molester/murderer which outweighs any narrative evil/ambiguity the writer might insist upon.

Some popular media examples which come to mind of this being employed:
Jurassic Park 1: T-Rex only kills the lawyer, a man who cares only for money and abandoned the kids in the car to their fate, so we can laugh at his death. The Raptors kill Sam Jackson + the cool shotgun guy. This makes it so we're "allowed" to side with the former during the film's climax.

Game of Thrones: Jamie's kill count prior to his face-turn is a single Lannister who is portrayed as conniving. His attempted murder of Bran and fight with Eddard yield 0 deaths of characters we care about. The motive for killing the Mad King is overwrites his past actions.

Lion King: Hyenas kill Scar in the climax. It's justified because Scar has killed and the Hyenas haven't. It's that simple sometimes.
 
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Game of Thrones: Jamie's kill count prior to his face-turn is a single Lannister who is portrayed as conniving. His attempted murder of Bran and fight with Eddard yield 0 deaths of characters we care about. The motive for killing the Mad King is overwrites his past actions.
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He kills Jory Cassel by stabbing him through the eye before the fight with Eddard. The show makes him worse in several ways than the novel, he kill his imprisoned cousin in an attempt to break out of captivity, he arrives in Kings landing before Joffrey's wedding and tells Brienne he doesn't intend to try and free Sansa despite promising an oath to Catelyn (in the book, he arrives after Joffrey is poisoned and Sansa is snuck away), he rapes Cersei by Joffrey's body (a scene that was misinterpreted from the book), he doesn't tell Tyrion about Tysha, he continues to serve Cersei in season 7 despite witnessing the sept explosion and then in Season 8 goes back her despite her backing out of the agreement to fight the dead and clearly being a mad tyrant who hired Bron to kill him.
 
I haven't watched a single episode of S2 but I still feel the need to sperg based on what clips I've seen

even if you totally discount the lore and view the show as a standalone product, as if it was a brand new original piece of fiction, the writing is so obviously shit. Plot contrivances every single scene. Doesn't matter how nonsensical you make characters or factions or the wildlife or the atmosphere behave

It's obvious the cold fusion memory stick or whatever you call it -- was NOT guarded because the writers didn't want to have to deal with the 'inconvenience' of having the troon deal with any guards. That might take extra effort planning out how to get it done. Apparently they didn't want to bother with giving their pet pooner a "badass" moment where she takes out a bunch of chuds for the purpose of a more democratic socialist progressive Sisterhood of Steel.

It's obvious the elder guy Quintus starts sperging out about ghoul children being abominations WHILE having a gun pointed at him by Maximus so that he becomes less sympathetic. Writers could have easily made le bigoted old white man pull a le heckin MAGAt speech about ghoul children in some other scene, but they're so thoughtless that they decide to have him do it a trigger away from instant death. They still would've accomplished the goal of making the old white man an acceptable target if they had him be xenophobic while talking to other BoS members (funnily enough in Season 1 he refers to the troon as a 'they', which means the writers still forced him to use tranny pronouns). Speaks volumes they were so careless that they just had to shoehorn it in while Maximus is hesitant to pull the trigger, thereby making it even more likely for execution-by-niggimus to happen (but it still doesn't, the old bigoted white man lives to survive another episode because...surprise surprise, the writers wanted to have him die in some other episode),

It's obvious that they have Lucy and Cooper Howard just stand there slackjawed as the Deathclaw opens the door to Gomorrah so that...they could have the drama of their protagonists standin threre slackjawed? They could've easily just had Cooper Howard try forcing Lucy to run away, only for Lucy trying to stay and fight the Deathclaw ..then having some feral ghouls luckily attack the Deathclaw. It would have been another obvious plot armor issue for Lucy but less blatantly careless than just having her and ghoulcowboy stand there making it easy for a Deathclaw to run up and eviscerate them

Every single scene involving some amount of danger is like this. Things happen not because they make sense in-universe, but because the writers need it to happen so that they can get to their fetish scenes or their le quirky funny scenes.

by the way, Season 2 still hasn't answered how Vault 32 was quickly cleaned up of corpses and blood spatters and other gorey messes in Season 1. Apparently Betty gets into Vault 31 offscreen to find robobrain on a roomba Bud Askins dead, which means that the Vault 33 overseer *can* open Vault 31...which makes it even more weird that Hank was not aware of Vault 32 dying out pre-Season 1 and was therefore able to get tricked by Moldaver camping there with her NCR/Raider goons. If it's so easy for Betty to discover the death of Bud, it should've been impossible for Moldaver to sneak into Vault 32 (and apparently live with gorey corpses for...months?) and fool Hank into the marriage ceremony.
 
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With all the talk about the Enclave, I went back to our only scene with them. To my surprise I find that they were doing mind control experiments on dogs! Looks like the mind control plot was planned from the start.

I have a feeling that Stephanie’s device she wants from Vault 33 is a signal for the Enclave to pick them up. I can see the cliffhanger to this season being the iconic Fallout 2 opening, with Enclave soldiers gunning down some of the inbred vault dwellers.
Libtardism Is Over said:
Apparently Betty gets into Vault 31 offscreen to find robobrain on a roomba Bud Askins dead, which means that the Vault 33 overseer *can* open Vault 31...which makes it even more weird that Hank was not aware of Vault 32 dying out pre-Season 1
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Betty should have been given a scene of her breaking protocol and accessing Vault 31. The whole reason for not investigating the other Vaults was to keep the social experiment running. These junior executives masquerading as Overseers were made to follow the rules to the letter. No one would question what happened in Vault 32 because they would only meet once every three years.
 
Disregarding the egregious lore rape I absolutely hate the characters.

The ghoul and Lucy are both incredibly unlikable with the latter being almost Borderlands 3 Calypso Twins level bad with her unbearable quipping.

Maximus is a retard who consistently acts like his IQ is 50 for comic relief.

This is probably on purpose but I find it hard to watch a show if the characters are so insufferable and annoying.

They're not even annoying assholes in a charming way like It's Always Sunny or something they just suck.
 
The Brotherhood razed Filly to the ground?? :story: :story: :story: :story:

I really want to read this Codex of theirs. I think I can safely estimate some of the rules:

1: KILL ALL NON-HUMANS YOU STUPID FUCKING NIGGER
2: Thou shalt not turn a weapon on thy fellow Brother
3: Rape and pillage

Would they make good allies to the Enclave or would the Enclave think the Brotherhood is too evil? :story:
 
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The decision to trade the Brotherhood helmet for an NCR one is made by Maximus based on cutting ties to the BoS.
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If they do this I might actually like it, I won't lie. That weird NCR power armor being something Maximus makes for himself to honor his past while not purposely gimping himself or larping as a full on ranger would be neat to see. Also, it not being some standardized version of NCR Power Armor would be a blessing in disguise. It still looks really fucking stupid, but it being a hodge podge by a single guy would excuse that to me.
Though, this makes me ponder something. There are set photos showing the NCR troops from the Shady Sands flashback, but it was filmed at the bridge location from episode 4, maybe that NCR battalion the remnant rangers were coping about isn't actually gone?
 
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