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So Caesar's Legion is a joke, the NCR is two people, and Maximus isn't allowed to grow as a character.
 
Chieftain Coke Peanut said:
Every time I try to understand the plot in the show I feel like I lose brain cells.
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It's written like a Bad Robot show. Things happen because the plot says so. There's no natural progression.
On one side you have a series of coincidences that lead to another: the Brotherhood jeet happens to trust Maxiumus to the point where they go on a mission together, gives his weapon to Maximus and land at a place where it just happens that Maximus' friend from LA is also here (wow, what a small world), and on the other side one of the main protagonists travels from one camp to another with no sense of time or distance because he needs to save Rey Frog girl.

Dante Alighieri said:
So Caesar's Legion is a joke, the NCR is two people, and Maximus isn't allowed to grow as a character.
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"we didn't want to pick one of the endings, they all think they won" was a bullshit reason so they could destroy every faction.
 
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Brubby The 2nd said:
My assumption is the budget is spread thin and unevenly with the CGI creatures this go around
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True, it's probably all going to the CGI deathclaws and the big civil war finalé with the airships and the shootings and the big kabooms.

They should have used the lower-budget episodes to build on the characters, explore the local politics, trusted their audience to get invested in dialogue-heavy episodes. There's so much intrigue to mine from New Vegas.

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Holy fuck... Please tell me they didn't just kill the Legion off in that end scene? It was better than the first two episodes, but the bar was so low it was in Hell.
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I think the implication was that Ghouly blew up Vanilla Caesar, allowing Chinese Caesar to take the reigns of the Legion.

You have to literally lean in and squint to see, but the Chinese Legion storms across the little hill that's separating the two camps.
 
Maker's Mark said:
Holy fuck... Please tell me they didn't just kill the Legion off in that end scene? It was better than the first two episodes, but the bar was so low it was in Hell.
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There are screenshots of Culkin Legate wearing Caesar's laurels, so they're still gonna be around with him running the Legion, I guess. Seems kind of pointless to go about the Legion this way, but I imagine someone in the writing staff wanted to make a split Roman Empire joke and they threw something together to justify it.
 
I find it very funny that despite the show pairing Lucy with Maximus and Cooper with his black wife, the most popular ship among show fans by far is Lucy and the Ghoul. Even after decades of racemixing propaganda, normie women still choose a literal mutant over a black man.
 
I got into fallout because of House,seeing them butcher his character in the show makes me MATI. Thankfully I already got over the last of us 2,now I just feel more indifferent than anything.

On a side note,didn’t know Mr. House’s VA voiced in those new shitty Ben 10 reboots. Waste of talent honestly.
 
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Arbiter said:
normie women still choose a literal mutant over a black man.
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I'm not really surprised, ugly monster dudes have a long and storied history of being attractive to women. Add on confidence, competence, and "I can fix him" and you're cooking with uranium. Maximus suffers from once a retard always a retard.

It's too bad they went for the Fallout 4 ghoul look, minus the shitty black eyes. Fallout 3 did a pretty good job turning ghouls 3D. They looked fucking disgusting, like rotting corpses, just as they should.
 
⋖ cørdion ⋗ said:
I'm indifferent but kinda funny:
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I'll still watch the series in manner of skipping through every 5 seconds, but I fail to see how this is meant to get anyone's blood boiling. In general, these games series don't really seem to cause much whiplash, do they? Last of Us and the faggotry of Mr Parks n Rec. People get mad for a few weeks then forget about it.
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Nuking Shady Sands and now this. Look maybe I'm saying something extremely retarded because I'm not into the show and I'm missing context, but can I just say thank God the showrunners decided to nominate their contribution to be non-canon.

I struggle to see a world where this nonsense and incompetence isn't immediately memory-holed the second the series is over.
Even if Bethesda wanted this slop to be canon and continued in future game installments, I simply don't see how anyone will take that seriously now.
 
Yes bethesda base fsllout 5 on the weird eyed woman whose father got lesbian cucked, the COOLEst CHARACTER EVER THE GHOUlD and some nigger. Its not like your own histories arent fucking retarded already
 
Chieftain Coke Peanut said:
It's too bad they went for the Fallout 4 ghoul look, minus the shitty black eyes. Fallout 3 did a pretty good job turning ghouls 3D. They looked fucking disgusting, like rotting corpses, just as they should.
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Completely agree. The Fallout 4 burn victim look is boring, and I much prefer 3 and NV ghouls. If they made Cooper look like that and made his personality less annoying, then maybe I would have been one of the Ghoulcy shippers.
 
Arbiter said:
Completely agree. The Fallout 4 burn victim look is boring, and I much prefer 3 and NV ghouls. If they made Cooper look like that and made his personality less annoying, then maybe I would have been one of the Ghoulcy shippers.
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and Cooper as a ghoul talks like a cowboy instead of a heavy smoker.
 
YOU GET A CIVIL WAR!

AND YOU GET A CIVIL WAR!

EVERYBODY GETS A CIVIL WAR!

Whoever wrote this show seems to think that any Fallout before 4 was right-wing fashy slop to be mocked and discredited, even while they jangle the keys of better games in front of the audience in the hopes that they don't notice that this show doesn't really have a plot.
 
Not going to bother commenting on the show's lack of seriousness, it's well established at this point, so I'll just remark on a few highlights.
Episode 4:

1) Deathclaw in Alaska pre-war - R.I.P QT.314 commie chinkess. Technically not lore inaccurate (they were being experimented on pre-war) but the show has confirmed the US deployed these pre-war now. It doesn't just kill Cooper whilst he's down and I can't tell if it was trying to speak, but it just put its face close to his and leered before being scared off. It's a diffcult point to hate on because it's technically feasable given what we know with the lore. The only eyebrow raiser is it didn't kill Coop and he has never brought it up in any other scene. I know I certainly fucking would - "There was a fucking monster in Alaska, I'm not bullshitting."

2) Before the reveal, but Cooper's armour gives out on him and he just flops over semi-comedically. His face is exposed the entire time he's sprayed with machine gun fire and he survived. 10 Luck confirmed.

3) Maximus, again, proving he's a dick by using Thadius' care for the kids to get him to go along with his scheme of covering up a death - it's his season 1 scheme again but successful this time.

4) Lucy gets aids.

5) Shady Sands was the "first sign of civilisation in the Wasteland" now, and the NCR's purpose was to bring justice to the wastes. Vault City and Arroyo shit on Shady Sands tbh. Fallout theme is a stringer on a big box of guns - it's might be the Fallout 76 version lmao.

6) Vault scene. Open on incest talk. Absolutely retarded waste of water. Fucker ought to have been killed for that shit. It wraps back around to the straight-men of the Vault coming across as comedically retarded because they did nothing about him just flagrantly taking water whilst their crops are dying and they have no means of replenishing supply.

7) Lucy was on a Buffout drip for 2 days. She's now a Buffout addict... with aids.

8) Maximus and pooner aren't even whispering their conversation about the former killing the Indian. He doesn't even bring up who replaced the Indian which was kind of weird, the pooner doesn't even ask. It is kind've based he just doubles down on murderhoboing this shit, but it's only based as a consequence of the Brotherhood being such a tumour in the show that it's better they all die. I mean, why the fuck not at this point? Maximus' killcount is 6, 1/3rd of that count is Brotherhood members. (1 NCR, 1 raider, 2 Vipers, 2 BoS members). May as well make them the majority, just Skyking the Prydwyn into Area 51, the IQ of the show's cast will raise by at least 2 points, and 3 points + character redemption if Maximus dies while doing it.

9) Norm gets an earnest scene with one of the Vault 31 defrostees. It's the East-Asian chick who couldn't see intially. She's staring wistfully at a bridge which she had drove across a week ago in her perspective. She raises a face-screwing fact in that she joined Vault Tec in the same week she was frozen. So, like, did she get poached from another company or did they chuck a newbie in a position where they'd just slide into a leadership role at some undetermined point in the future? Common sense says the former, but this show would unironically do the latter. Still, Norm basically cementing he's the only part of the show where earnestness can happen. Goggins might be the best actor but Norm has the best scenes. One remark I'll make is that many instances of humour with the Norm plot are very noticeable in how forced they feel, because they've clearly cemented a tone for Norm and his eventual relationship with the Asian chick and so trying to veer into humour when it's serving no purpose is just extra unnecessary.

Bud's personal assistant Ronnie brings up some nebulous "phase 2" of the 33/32 experiment. Norm's gotta try and figure out what that is. I'm guessing it's either "get in contact with the Enclave" or "simply have the bigger, stronger Vault kill the smaller, weaker one".

10) La Creatura da Americana Negro Hispanico is mixing up his left and right, which is now a common problem for some reason. The bathroom is called "the women's mensroom" by the Michael Bolton lookalike. I can't tell if this is supposed be woke shit or a joke - then again, same difference: wince.

11) The Overseers discover Vault 31 has been abandoned. Black lady overseer is despondent with Vault Tec and basically is operating in the role earnestly. Blonde lady holds her vault hostage in return for a literal mystery box that Hank had, and Black lady needs to give to blonde lady to get water. La Abomnacio la Vault 32 happens upon the conversation due to his inability to switch up his right and left. Blonde Lady is fine with killing Black Lady's vault.

12) We're at Vegas now. Lucy is now twitchy and is probably going to act like an even more overactive rambly retard than before. The Kings are now ghouls, unfortunately. R.I.P the King. Apparently House installed a new gate that goes straight to the Strip which doesn't require going through Freeside, which due to being infested by Kings the Ghoul suggests they go through Freeside instead. It takes half a day to detour from the front gate to the gate to Freeside. There's not much to comment on here it's just noticeable when they change stuff you're familiar with.

13) Lucy is tired of detours and just suggests running through the front gate. She's reacting like someone on Psycho but given Buffout is basically steroids they're probably just imitating roid-rage. The Ghoul is entirely on board. Lucy gets her own, higher-pitched version of the Ghoul's annoying ass yodel stinger after she blows off one of the King-ghoul's legs. She says "whoa" and is competent at taking on the Kings. Since Goggins already said, "that's the drug's talking," prepare for the imminent 180 when she goes back to not being comfortable with shooting people again. It's very "girlbossy," but at least she isn't belittling the Ghoul, who is merely watching with amusement. The massacre of the Kings is done to the tune of "Cocaine Blues" by Rog Hogseed.

14) The slow motion bullet you've seen in the trailer being fired by Lucy goes through the back of The King's head. Yes, the King. He's the only one wearing a white suit jacket and he's got a guitar on his back. However, there's another, potentially more damning possibility...

15) I'm sure if they're implying it was a chain of casinos or what but The Tops is now located outside the Strip. I'm theorising something here: the show's writers assumed The Kings and The Chairmen of the Tops were apart of the same faction. The (presumed) King could also be wearing Benny's suit jacket instead. If this is what happened this is a uber fuckup. Gomorah is seen in the background within the walls of the Strip. EDIT: Also fucked up here, I forgot Bennie's suit jacket was chequered. Everything else applies though unless the Kings make an appearance int he next episode. I fully expect the school to be visible in the background but we need to see a bunch of people dressed like Elvis first.

16) Brotherhood scene. That's all the effort I'm expending on this. "Don't come out until the shooting stops." Scratch that, are they unironically doing my joke suggestion? lmao? Pooner has a very faint moustache now, very disgusting, very disrespectful. The Elder was the one who found Maximus apparently, which I don't think was brought up in season 1 whatsoever. It explains why Maximus got off so lightly for his bullshit but at the same time this Elder is basically is adoptive father and not nearly enough weight is placed on that. The Elder at least explains why killing him is dumb and it's not played off as a joke. Of course they need to have Thaddeus trying to maintain his disguise as two other Elders (lady one + based/sexist one) try to negotiate for Commonwealth BoS' favour in return for killing Quintus (old man elder). Thaddeus has a panic attack. The two Elders trying to help him with it despite not knowing what a panic attack is (???) was oddly endearing. It all just breaking up the actually good scene (Maximus and Quintus) is a demerit however.

Quintus facing down the laser pistol interrogating Maximus on what the hell he's going to do after killing him was also decent. It makes his performance/actions during episode 2 all the more confusing. I wonder if they re-wrote huge chunks of this shit but episode 2 was simply too expensive to re-do so Quintus being an arbitrary asshole who watches his own men participate in death battles is just shrugged off. Maximus basically admitting to being an NPC with no forethought and a creature of pure reaction is either meant to be decent introspection from the show's most retarded character or was meant to be some sort of profound statement on the chaos of the world and how you can only react to it because plans don't work. Quintus then shifts to a consoling tone, uses a "my son" and is moments away from saving his own skin...

"ABOMINATIONS! KILL GHOUL CHILDREN! IT'S THE FIRST RULE OF THE CODEX YOU NIGGER! I SHOULD'VE LET YOU DIE, MAXIMUS! HERETIIIC!" *acquires 10mil Pistol with zero interference from Maximus and mag dumps at point blank hip fire missing every shot* (This way the murder becomes an act of self-defence!) (Not that he takes the chance to kill him, he runs the fuck away whilst the Elder screams, "Heretic!" at his back and continues missing shots - hilarious.)

19) Chick Elder stabs Sexist Elder through the cheek after the cold fusion mcguffin is stolen by pooner. Robo-fucker Elder becomes the most based by default since he all cavalier about the chaos breaking out, though Quintus just being becoming a screeching zealot on sparing the lives of children is funny shit. Maximus flees the room, Quintus' pistol clicks empty, Maximus then chains the door shut, and Quintus starts banging on it, like his fucking intent was to chase Maximus down and kill him with his bare hands or something – dude's fucking 60 and needs a cane to walk. It's legitimately the only time I've laughed and I don't think they intended it. Holy shit I'm in tears. I had to cover the Brotherhood section because of how hard this got me. This is not being played comedically, Maximus is on the verge of tears explaining himself before Quintus starts screaming – brilliant.

20) "We're survivors Max. We survive." Bravo Nolan! Maximus and Thaddeus escape with the Mcguffin whilst Pooner stays behind. I don't think she was ever told who was in the suit. The last shot we get before the scene transition is of the chained door and Quintus screaming "Heretic!" from the other side. The airships are shooting at one another as Maximus and Thaddeus book it meaning the BoS civil war is in full swing now, it's just between different chapters of the Western Brotherhood. It's actually a decent visual.

This started over a misunderstanding btw. And technically it's all the woman's fault because she jumped to conclusions on who stole the cold fusion mcguffin and thus drew first blood. I skipped over it because I was focusing on Quintus but nobody was actually guarding the priceless piece of invaluable technology on which the Western Brotherhood's future relies. Bravo.

21) Back in the vault. The only decent resident of Vault 33, Chet, is playing the role of mother/dad to the cuckoo baby. La Creatura (slave name, Woody) is reporting an inter-vault safety violation... directly to the Overseer (Blonde lady) who is violating it. Chet finds a false bottom on a drawer whilst Woody tries to wrap his head around how Blonde is going to dole out repercussions to herself. Plot twist: Blonde Overseer is fucking Canadian and she needs to be killed the spot of an American in a Vault. Oh, and I guess Chet learns she's from the pre-war. She was born in 2045 making her 32-ish. Hopefully the baby isn't retarded, though if it were, at least it wouldn't have to worry about being bullied for being one because he'd be otherwise indistinguishable from the rest of the vault's residents.

22) The Strip! (It's actually a plaza now) Also the Tops' sign showing upcoming acts alongside the actual Tops' sign are both inside the walls but the Tops itself is outside the walls. Gomorah and the Ultra-Lux are both right across the street from the Lucky 38. The Tops is now outside the Strip itself, so I think my theory of them mixing together The Kings and The Tops/Chairmen is true. The Tops is outside the Strip because The Kings were also outside the Strip, and they basically went off of that. I'm becoming more certain that this is what happened. There's also the sign to the Vault 21 hotel too. It's probably that House concreted the Vault in the show's canon now because there's probably a way to get where Hank ended up from Vault 21 and he wanted to prevent that. EDIT: I'm fucking blind, the Tops is also in the Strip, I just blinked and missed it beside the sign. It's now so large it goes from the Strip to outside of it, which feels like a major fucking security flaw for the guy who concrete-buried half a vault.

There's radiation on the Strip (Lucy's geiger counter goes off) and there's Deathclaw eggs. Lucy thinks whatever "it" is will be easy but the Ghoul actually looks terrified. Lucy then matches his look when she actually looks at the fucker (her eyes are twice the size of a normal person's eyes so it's easy to see) and we get our 2nd deathclaw of the show. Rips off the doors of the Gomorah, stands at full height knocking away some of the doorway, and the episode ends on Lucy's "Okey-dokey".

Ends on a Fallout 4 radio song instead of a FNV one, which I consider a sleight.

There's a direct correlation between watchability and comedy. Less comedy and stupidity = passable. Episode and season as a whole is utterly fucked on pacing. We're going to need to spend an episode doing some flashback shit which this episode was devoid of to learn about Mr House still. The mind control shit paying off in a Deathclaw being controlled is possible i.e. the same shit the Enclave were doing in Fallout 3 in Broken Steel.

If that one dude predicting the hooded figure in the trailer was actually Goris ends up being right he deserves $10. I can easily see Lucy's optimism schtick paying off in befriending a Deathclaw by asking first and shooting later for the first time and I wouldn't be surprised.

Episode 5 preview:
1) They "run" from deathclaws.
2) Snakeoil salesman ends up in Vegas
3) Ghoul & Lucy in Freeside
4) Cooper Howard in Vegas, House knows he's there to kill him
5) Norm and co are at Vault Tec headquarters
6) Lucy power fists someone inside a hotel room (I'm guessing this is her detoxing) and it might be the Atomic Wrangler (wallpaper + in Freeside)


Episode "quality" ranking.
4>3>1>2
 
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I'm about to watch episode 4, my guesses for the episode are:

Somehow Mr. House Returned, maybe even in an actual body with clone bullshit.

Lucy and the ghoul get cornered and there's no way out until the NCR remnants shows up like the Riders of Rohan.

Followers of the Apocalypse make a cameo, but it's just used for laughs.

Independent ending is canonized, but immediately disregarded because they still have the NCR, House, and Legion fighting over Vegas still.

Free space for more borderlands humor than I can stomach.
 
Maximus really hopes that no one will notice that the important guy that everyone is paying attention to is suddenly acting completely different and lost his Indian accent.

Does the vault shit even matter to anyone at this point? Literally every character people care about has left the damn vault.

The vault subplot also continues the same problem as the brotherhood and any other faction in this: no character has any actual beliefs, so they'll literally just drop the goal of their faction the moment it's convenient to the plot, making you wonder why it took so long for them to do it. In this one, apparently the only thing that was keeping the two overseers from just doing their own thing was the Roomba being alive. The fuck was Bud going to do if they said "Fuck Vault Tech, we just want to rule"?

So, Lucy's a straight up sadistic psycho, right? Having a drug addition for five minutes doesn't completely invert your morality from 'Oh, I can barely bring myself to shoot at ruthless raiders trying to murder me' to 'Oh my god, I just looooove making people explode! It's like sex, man.'

Lucky for Lucy that the feral Kings don't have the Ghoul's invincibility.

When the Chapter leaders ask to pull Not!Xander aside so they can conspire to kill Quintus for him, I thought they'd at least bring him into an empty room. But no, these fucktards are loudly arguing about murdering the guy who runs this base in the middle of the cafeteria, surrounded by all of his men.

Also, these guys are so scared of the Commonwealth chapter that they instantly abandon the rebellion they formed the moment they realize that a rebellion would involve fighting the Commonwealth, but still think they have any room to try and bargain with the Emissary for resources for turning on Quintus.

Quintus: "Okay, fine, you kill me and somehow survive it: what's your plan?"
Maximus: "I don't have a plan, I just keep winging it and hope for the best."
Quintus: "...You're a retard."
Maximus: "And yet I keep winning."

Maximus is such an unintimidating fuck up that, when holding an old man at gunpoint and admitting why he killed Xander, the old man just groans, casually strolls across the room to his desk, picks up a gun and starts firing back.

"You don't have the apologize for not killing someone."

When it was literally your only job that your entire plan revolves around, yes you fucking do. It's all so artificial, Maximus was practically a psychopath in the last season, killing and fucking over anyone he needed to in order to get what he wanted. He didn't become a better person, he just found someone he cared about. But now, solely for the sake of shoving him into a story about having his faith tested, he's suddenly developed a belief in the Brotherhood's values, and seemingly has some sort of father-son bond with Quintus so he'll hesitate to shoot even though Quintus is supposedly everything he hates.

Also, stealing the cold fusion wasn't part of any plan. Maximus was just going to kill Quintus and deal with whatever fallout. So Mr 'You don't have to apologize for not killing someone' just kick started a mass slaughter in the base and got probably a lot of innocent comrades killed of his own volition without a hint of guilt.

Chet stumbles upon the greatest tragic twist of all: His wife is Canadian.
 
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