Amazon Studios to develop series based on Fallout

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Have they jeetified Maxson or is that guy playing a new character?
 
El Chacal De La Trompeta said:
i cant get over how ugly everyone is on this show
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Take that back!
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Wait, that retard in the opening scene was supposed to be House? Dumbass went into a bar unarmed, purposely pissed off the biggest looking dudes there so that they'd drag him out back and kick his ass because they see his inventions as having ruined their lives, showed them all the money he had in his car and banked on the hope that they'd just willingly let him insert brainwashing chips into their necks rather than just continue to beat his ass and steal his shit.

Why does the Ghoul even need to go through with this dumb plan of almost getting executed to 'ambush' the Khans? He's practically fucking invincible and shrugged off bullets fighting an entire town in season 1.

"You're a celebrity, you have the sort of power that can change things, convince people I can't." Gnoggins literally only found Mouldy's communist group because he heard about his fellow celebrities losing their career and support the moment they stopped towing the line; what power are you talking about?

It took Norm until he was on the brink of starving to realise that threatening the roomba was an option. Bud even holds the door open for a while, just wait by the door and ambush him as soon as he comes in to taunt you.

The Overseers continue to show how their 'Everyone in the vault that's planned to take over and manage society haven't been educated or trained for this purpose at all' plan makes no sense.
>IMPLYING said:
Hank has a one-sided conversation with someone over the radio. Heavily implied to be House based on the info we've received in the show ("Old stomping grounds" i.e. Vegas) but maybe it sounds too obvious they're pointing towards House for it to actually be him?
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I'm assuming it's whoever the shadowy guy Ghoul's wife reports to from the Season 1 meeting is.
 
how this show keeps its faggot hands out of dead money. they probably would make dean domino a nigger who fucks vera and sinclair watches or something retarded like that
 
El Chacal De La Trompeta said:
how this show keeps its faggot hands out of dead money. they probably would make dean domino a nigger who fucks vera and sinclair watches or something retarded like that
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Dean Domino IS black, if the pre-war posters are anything to go by. What a strange thing to be upset about out of all the possibilities this show has to ruin Dead Money

Also, I'm just gonna say it: even DUST and it's edgelord cynicism is a better sequel to New Vegas than this shit. At least DUST went the whole nine years with what it wanted to accomplish, the TV show is just retarded and seems to want to shock viewers juts for the sake of shocking them. Typical hollywood slop with zero substance. Finding out how things went to shit in DUST will always have more impact than whatever stupid plot twist this will provide.
 
In principle, I don't really mind the idea that the NCR or Vegas fell to ruin, it isn't like that was a total impossibility or anything, what I can't stand is how boring and Bethesda they were with it. The DLCs laid out some get out of jail free cards for this exact thing, since Avellone saw the writing on the wall.

The Cloud, Tunnelers, shit, Elijah winning could have opened up some intriguing story paths even. We could have seen a version of The Mojave that is truly Hellish and intriguing, but this is nu-Fallout, it's wacky and fun and whimsical! Can't have that!

So we got the Bethesda effect. Factions that have no business being around still are, I.E. The Khans, The Legion, because we need normies to soyjak when they see the dinosaur mouth and iconography.

There aren't cool new and dangerous geographical features, another nuke just went off at Shady Sands. We have more generic raiders to kill amd WACKY NPCs to meet like the FLEA SOUP lady, tee hee! How about MORE GHOULS! We friggin' LOVE zombies, amirite Reddit!?

It's just so lame and non-commital. Man up and make a bad ending canon, have some balls.
 
TheAmbiguousLurker said:
Wait, that retard in the opening scene was supposed to be House? Dumbass went into a bar unarmed, purposely pissed off the biggest looking dudes there so that they'd drag him out back and kick his ass because they see his inventions as having ruined their lives, showed them all the money he had in his car and banked on the hope that they'd just willingly let him insert brainwashing chips into their necks rather than just continue to beat his ass and steal his shit.
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I'm gonna go with "this is supposed to show he plans for everything" or something dumb like that. It's the only way writers are able to show to the audience that someone is intelligent.
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That said, I'm creating an explanation for them, so it's possible that you saw what you get and it wasn't meant to imply anything.
TheAmbiguousLurker said:
"You're a celebrity, you have the sort of power that can change things, convince people I can't."
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The only way the line makes sense in context is that she's making Cooper feel bigger than he actually is so he'll feel like his responsibility is to save the world by killing House if he can't convince him to not launch the nukes, but given House has no inclination of doing that (I hope) Cooper is meant to take that as denial and so he's left with no choice.

She doesn't want Goggins to "talk" to House, she wants him to murder him (like he said in the after credits teasers), and the only reason he'll be able to get close enough at all is because Cooper is a famous actor who appears to be pro-Vault tec given his association with the brand and the fact he's accompanying his wife, a vault-tec exec.

I'm all in on Moldaver being a manipulative snake.
TheAmbiguousLurker said:
It took Norm until he was on the brink of starving to realise that threatening the roomba was an option. Bud even holds the door open for a while, just wait by the door and ambush him as soon as he comes in to taunt you.
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The roomba's charging port is inside the room itself so he's never have to leave it if he wanted Norm to die.

I'm guessing the choice between "get in ze pod" or "die quickly" might end up being one of those somewhat contrived attempts later on to evoke sympathy or a change of perception of the character. Basically: If all you wanted was for Norm to stop being a problem, then allowing him to slowly die of starvation would do that. Why keep taunting him with the offer of freezing or a swifter, less painful alternative to dying? 1. He's a psycho bastard. 2. He doesn't actually like seeing a young man starve to death.

Norm not threatening him is another character thing. We've seen him want to opt for brutality (executing the raiders) but he'd never go so far as to actually harm someone as far as we know (yet). He was hiding during the raider attack on the vault, and he wasn't even behind the poisoning of the raiders. He could've disarmed the roomba pretty much instantly, or fuckin' tipped him over, but Roomba's such a non-threat what'd be the point? He was felted by a fallen broom and Norm basically ignored him after letting him free.

Norm is actually a considerably less violent person at than his sister, whose casual regard and visible lack of affect when it comes to violence is basically psychopathy (or autism). The Ghoul displays more reaction to murder than Lucy does (this is true).

TheAmbiguousLurker said:
The Overseers continue to show how their 'Everyone in the vault that's planned to take over and manage society haven't been educated or trained for this purpose at all' plan makes no sense.
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I think the whole idea was "delegation is king" thing, but they've all been trained for skills that are otherwise worthless or an actual bottleneck of their true capabilities. The other is they defrosted 1 good would-be Overseer every 30 years to lead the Vault with the hope of incremental improvement, but what ended up happening is micromanagement (because they're all managers - get it?) and a population that got increasingly stagnant, decadent, and incapable of escaping routines.

Since people weren't trained with foresight in mind and left entirely up to the GOAT to assign function, you got individuals being cripplingly overspecialised into specific roles to be used like tools for a specific task on specific whims. Blonde Overseer can't work the terminal and nobody else but Norm is capable of doing so because they weren't trained. Chet - guy now being forced into the role of a literal cuckoo bird - had the job of "gatekeeper," meant to either open/close a door that would never be opened (door to the surface) or one that'd be opened once every 3 years (door that connects to the other vault). The old dude needed a committee to approve the idea of putting up signs instead of doing it himself. When the tool is missing/gone, suddenly the vault is incapable of doing rudimentary tasks, and can't even decide for themselves to do something without first getting permission or orders. I'm guessing the guy doing the support group is probably going to realise he's good at therapy or some shit (he likes listening to people's problems) but he's not allowed to change occupancy because it's not his assigned role. Chet can't even stand at the gate anymore because it's been left open.

You could contrive a "a good leader alone isn't enough to make a good society" theme and link it to House (and Moldaver) or something, but I'm barely able to pull any of this out of the air.

In a basic story, every thing lingered on and in detail is meant to serve some sort of purpose in the narrative. The end-purpose might be shit when you can piece together what it is in hindsight, but it's there for that reason. If it serves no purpose, and the fact it serves no purpose isn't highlighted – which is an already story device – then it's double-shit.
TheAmbiguousLurker said:
I'm assuming it's whoever the shadowy guy Ghoul's wife reports to from the Season 1 meeting is.
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I theorising (coping) that she reports to House, but House is a good guy actually, and the reason Goggins is looking for his wife and daughter both and not just his daughter is because something happened to reconcile his image the wife in the past i.e. she didn't actually want to blow shit up. The shadowy figure of who we're supposed to think is House + wife delivering cold fusion tech to him (supposedly) is to push the audience up to the last minute of believing House is a baddie when he and the ghoul's wife actually aren't. We're to assume Hank is speaking to House only to discover it's someone else via rugpull.

Regardless, I don't think this is House. (Robert, the body double, or Anthony)
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They have a moustache but it's more Kitchener than Hughes.
If the moustache is in fact shadow then from a particular angle it could be Moldaver.
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I will deny House is going to become a villain in the show until the very last moment.
 
El Chacal De La Trompeta said:
nah he is latino
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In-game picture. By itself his nose could do it but if you smile with flared nostrils IRL you'd achieve a similar effect.
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Concept art. (not sure if the guy top right is a reference for the suit or who was pictured to be its wearer)
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Famous 60s "Dean" Martin (Ain't that a kick in the head, but also "Something's gotta give".)
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Domino the surname has links to Latin nations, like Spain (and thus Mexico) and Italy.
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However the "Domino" in Dean Domino possibly comes from Fats "Domino".
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Given that he's possibly the half-black, half-Italian butt baby of Fats Domino and Dean Martin, I think a decent compromise between is: Sicilian.
For real though I think he's just supposed to be Dean Martin with a moustache and glasses making him Italian. The actual poster appearance is contentious though but he's definitely not black-black.
 
>IMPLYING said:
I'm gonna go with "this is supposed to show he plans for everything" or something dumb like that. It's the only way writers are able to show to the audience that someone is intelligent.
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It doesn't, he's very clearly surprised and falls into a panic when the man asks the obvious question of "Why don't we just beat your ass and take your money?". He was fully expecting them to just take the deal.

>IMPLYING said:
Norm not threatening him is another character thing. We've seen him want to opt for brutality (executing the raiders) but he'd never go so far as to actually harm someone as far as we know (yet). He was hiding during the raider attack on the vault, and he wasn't even behind the poisoning of the raiders.
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He was hiding during the raider attack because he was scared of getting killed, and then afterwards made it a point that it was something he didn't want to happen again. Bud poses no immediate threat to him, he very clearly isn't afraid of Bud, and he is slowly dying; no damn way it took him this long to do any of the obvious. It's not a character thing, it's a script thing because they need the scene to go a specific way, especially because your explanation goes out the window when Norm decides to wake everyone up.
>IMPLYING said:
He could've disarmed the roomba pretty much instantly, or fuckin' tipped him over, but Roomba's such a non-threat what'd be the point?
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Because the Roomba is the one keeping him captive and he knows that it'll fold if it believes itself or it's plan in danger?
>IMPLYING said:
I think the whole idea was "delegation is king" thing, but they've all been trained for skills that are otherwise worthless or an actual bottleneck of their true capabilities. The other is they defrosted 1 good would-be Overseer every 30 years to lead the Vault with the hope of incremental improvement, but what ended up happening is micromanagement (because they're all managers - get it?) and a population that got increasingly stagnant, decadent, and incapable of escaping routines.
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The whole idea sucks ass and goes completely against what Vault Tek are supposedly plotting. The idea starts and ends with 'Vault Dwellers are all A-Grade retards because it's funny and convenient to the plot to have them need basic, common sense explained to them.'. Why is why the show explicitly tells us that their dumb assery is normal for all vaults. Then again, Hank in season 1's presentation to the vault dwellers also mentioned all the things they should be prepared for whenever their eventual return to the surface happens, stuff that the characters will then act like they never knew were a thing, so maybe everyone in the show just has very sporadic amnesia.

Blonde Overseer can't work the terminal and nobody else but Norm is capable of doing so because they weren't trained.
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If your theory was correct, wouldn't this be the one thing she should absolutely be able to do? Why would the non-overseer be trained to use the terminal but not the person explicitly in place to become an overseer and use the terminal that overseers regularly use to manage the progress of the vault? Why is she and Lucy trained to use guns when their roles would have nothing to do with fighting threats?
 
Y'all reading into something that was just to show off the mind control device and to show that he's a psycho raised with a silver spoon in his mouth.

Blonde was busy fucking rather than learning thinking it was easy cause they were dumb as fuck in her opinion.

I really enjoyed this ep as a non fallout fan. Played 3/nv/4 never got past at best honest 10 hours while skipping dialogue/story ASAP just to enjoy the gameplay. Never really got far in enjoying the gameplay. I have no idea how the story is supposed to be but I really like what they're doing and with the minimal knowledge that I have characters are interesting.

Also doesn't look like a faggot in the suit like he did at the end of s01. That looked too cartoony for me.
 
El Chacal De La Trompeta said:
how this show keeps its faggot hands out of dead money. they probably would make dean domino a nigger who fucks vera and sinclair watches or something retarded like that
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They already did this to Sinclair.
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It's ironic because DM seems like the part of NV that the Amazon team would be most interested in. DM could have given them all of the stuck-in-the-past 50s futurism flashbacks about the interpersonal drama of glamorous celebrities and capitalist innovators that they could have ever wanted, but they fucked it up from the beginning by making Sinclair a fat retard throwaway for a single scene.
 
Purveyors of goyslop don't understand their own goyslop delivery methods. If the whole season had been released at once I would have left it on in the background while I was doing other things, but expecting this to keep anyone's interest week to week is just insane.
 
I don't think they care even one tiny bit about plot consistently or tone.

This show isn't meant to have a plot, it's meant to be gratuitous gore porn and flashing lights that all the 80 IQ soyjacks can clap to.
 
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