Alt-Right Groups Infighting

[Woodcutting bot]

It is an all-encompassing term usually meaning either "conservative who is not a neocon" or "person of a conservative persuasion I don't happen to like" depending on the speaker's own politics. Technically, much like SJW, it has no real meaning.

I'm going to expand on this a bit. The term is thrown around too loosely, and "alt right" is constantly used to describe two differing groups.

The alt-lite are the younger Trump fans that you would find on places like /r/The_Donald or following Lauren Southern, Rebel Media, Steven Crowder and Paul Joseph Watson. They are civic nationalists, not racial nationalists, however they are very vocal about muslim immigration stance for obvious reasons. They don't like (and aren't liked by) Neocons, as they believe there's no difference between a Bush type and a Clinton type. They are pretty easy to identify from their love of pepe related memes (kekistan, meme magic etc). They called themselves "alt right" until early this year when it was discovered that Richard Spencer was the one that actually founded the alt right back in 2010 or something.

The alt-right on the other hand are actual racial nationalists. They too were big Trump fans until the Syrian runway was bombed in april(?), and they felt as though Trump was just another Neocon type that was going to start more wars in the middle east. They don't like the alt lite very much, and they hate Neocons.
They are heavily anti immigration and anti jewish. Their memes are usually a lot more offensive (a wyatt man, happy merchant, etc), but they can still be seen using pepe on occasion.
You will find these people following TheRightStuff, The Daily Stormer, Richard Spencer and /pol/. If youtube subscriptions on their biggest channels are any indicator, the alt right is very small.

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[Quack]

Dick Spencer isn't the "founder" of the alt-right, but he'll certainly tell you that he is. Truth is he's a shameless publicity hound with a very nebulous ideology (he's a liberal-plus-racism, more or less, but he's come out with all sorts of wacky statements) and is an easy punching bag on his media appearances, for which he's woefully underprepared. The media seem to be setting him up as the new David Duke and Spencer, moron that he is, jumps at the chance.

He's currently slapfighting with Greg Johnson, also a poorly-closeted alt-right homosexual, but it's not a major thing yet so far as I can tell.

I'm not going to go into details, but Richard is a giant jackass with bizarre fetishes and quite possibly a closeted homosexual. No I didn't sleep with him, but know someone who did.

When did this go down? Spencer's currently married to a Russian beard, and he was a weirdo in college, majoring in English and Music and generally LARPing all sorts of ideologies. He inherited his money and is a failure to launch, much like many goons who have threads on here.

 

[millais]

Another figure who intentionally draws a lot of drama his way for the purpose of increasing exposure and web traffic is Mike Cernovich. He already has a very big lolcow thread in the main subforum, but relevant to this thread, he has in the past picked fights with some of the other big name alt-right pundits like the "Baked Alaska" briefly mentioned in this thread's OP.

 

[Begemot]

Before the 2016 election I considered the "alt-right" to be an American conservative who was not religious. A huge reason why the Republican party languished so terribly during the Obama administration was it was chained to Christian Fundamentalism. When /pol/ and other online entities began using the term "alt-right" I thought it was a great distinction to make for non-religious conservatives.

Then this shit happened. In an attempt to cement supporting Trump as a taboo, Clinton referred explicitly to the rise of the "alt-right" and inexorably linked it to neo-Nazi, racist overtones from online political communities like /pol/. She did the same thing later by referring to half of his supporters as being racists with her now-infamous "basket of deplorables" comment that probably did more harm than good. Then propaganda societies like CNN started paying dipshits like Richard Spencer, puppeting him as the """""founder of the alt-right""""""" and having him Seig Heil on live national television and endorse Trump.

I saw it as a rejection of Neo-Con Neo-liberal bullshit but it got shoe-horned into abject racism. The moment you start stepping outside the parameters of what the National Review wants you're suddenly non-human. That's the tragedy in all of this. These guys are lolcows because they're being played like a fiddle by controlled opposition like Richard Spencer.

Also posted this in the common filth thread but this article is also pretty good:

https://www.jacobinmag.com/2017/02/paleocons-for-porn/

 

[Terrorist]

I'm going to expand on this a bit. The term is thrown around too loosely, and "alt right" is constantly used to describe two differing groups.

The alt-lite are the younger Trump fans that you would find on places like /r/The_Donald or following Lauren Southern, Rebel Media, Steven Crowder and Paul Joseph Watson. They are civic nationalists, not racial nationalists, however they are very vocal about muslim immigration stance for obvious reasons. They don't like (and aren't liked by) Neocons, as they believe there's no difference between a Bush type and a Clinton type. They are pretty easy to identify from their love of pepe related memes (kekistan, meme magic etc). They called themselves "alt right" until early this year when it was discovered that Richard Spencer was the one that actually founded the alt right back in 2010 or something.

The alt-right on the other hand are actual racial nationalists. They too were big Trump fans until the Syrian runway was bombed in april(?), and they felt as though Trump was just another Neocon type that was going to start more wars in the middle east. They don't like the alt lite very much, and they hate Neocons.
They are heavily anti immigration and anti jewish. Their memes are usually a lot more offensive (a wyatt man, happy merchant, etc), but they can still be seen using pepe on occasion.
You will find these people following TheRightStuff, The Daily Stormer, Richard Spencer and /pol/. If youtube subscriptions on their biggest channels are any indicator, the alt right is very small.

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also there's the NRx/Blackpill faction who see the west as a lost cause, politics as futile, Trump as a fag-enabling cuck, and culture/religion as more important than race. They can tend to be anti-Jew but largely believe the white race created its own problems through materialism and degeneracy, and are more strongly Christian/socially conservative than the other 2 factions, who they criticize for being cringy and not up to their standards (especially hedonistic porn-loving channers). These guys can typically be found on twitter and 8chan, and tend to shy away from chan memes/lingo in general, favoring more mainstream humor.

Closely related is the Trad movement, who are like them but more optimistic and even less politically oriented, believing traditional white christian family life (not ideology) can save the west. Trads try to be as wholesome and family-friendly as possible, and thus keep away from chans/memes altogether out of an aversion to irony.

There's definitely a cleavage between the factions but not really infighting, since they tend to stick to themselves and the alt-right never had a unified organization anyway. Right now the real conflict seems to be Alt-Lite vs. everybody else, who are becoming cynical about Trump and tired of weeaboo kek autists. It'll be interesting to see how relevant all the current players (especially Mr. Implicit over here) are by 2020, and if they even support Trump anymore.

 

[AnOminous]

You will find these people following TheRightStuff, The Daily Stormer, Richard Spencer and /pol/. If youtube subscriptions on their biggest channels are any indicator, the alt right is very small.

This latter group is the pack most likely to be engaging in tard fights. So why not start threads on one or more of these when they actually do something?

I know nool gets kind of butthurt about the phrase "alt-right" but he has a point. It's been hijacked both by these literal Nazis as well as the mainstream left who wants to portray anyone right of center who isn't a traditional Republican as just being a Nazi.

I think fighting over the meaning of it is a lost cause, having been on the losing end of too many fights like this in the past. Case in point, the term "hacker." It should mean anyone who creatively uses computers. Now, though, it just means "a criminal who uses computers." You never win these fights when shithead pop culture idiots take your words over.

So instead of "alt-right" why not just actually name the specific lolcows?

 

[escapegoat]

Spencer is being set up to be the new David Duke. Someone the media can trot out during election years to say, "Look who he's endorsing!" Useful idiot.

Closely related is the Trad movement, who are like them but more optimistic and even less politically oriented, believing traditional white christian family life (not ideology) can save the west. Trads try to be as wholesome and family-friendly as possible, and thus keep away from chans/memes altogether out of an aversion to irony.

On twitter, Trad is almost entirely women. #tradlife. They totally share the tag with some dude who was trying to sell archery equipment, too, so, lulz to his newly reassigned White Pride Bow and Arrows.

 

[AnOminous]

Spencer is being set up to be the new David Duke. Someone the media can trot out during election years to say, "Look who he's endorsing!" Useful idiot.

You can thank that spastic who punched him for giving him permanent prominence despite the fact his actual opinions are completely irrelevant to anything.

Thanks Nazi puncher. You put this guy in the headlines for the rest of his life you stupid fucking cunt.

 

[theChoubrothers]

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[Alec Benson Leary]

You can thank that spastic who punched him for giving him permanent prominence despite the fact his actual opinions are completely irrelevant to anything.

Thanks Nazi puncher. You put this guy in the headlines for the rest of his life you stupid fucking cunt.

I still don't know who the fuck Richard Spencer even is. Does he write for a news site? Work on a politician's campaigns? Sell vacuums door to door? None of that matters I guess, I'm just supposed to be okay with assaulting him.

 

[Ethel Mertz]

You can thank that spastic who punched him for giving him permanent prominence despite the fact his actual opinions are completely irrelevant to anything.

Thanks Nazi puncher. You put this guy in the headlines for the rest of his life you stupid fucking cunt.

That's always the way.

If the SJWs had laughed at Milo Yiannopoulos rather than reeeee at him, he'd have no career. They're so stupid.

 

[TiggerNits]

I don't know much about this alt right business, but I do think Richard Spencer is probably a CIA spook

I'd be less surprised if he was just an unknowing asset of a foreign service. Dude screams "useful idiot that can be kept in the dark"

 

[cuddle striker]

this thread is plagued.

 

[escapegoat]

You can thank that spastic who punched him for giving him permanent prominence despite the fact his actual opinions are completely irrelevant to anything.

Thanks Nazi puncher. You put this guy in the headlines for the rest of his life you stupid fucking cunt.

If someone hadn't punched him, we'd eventually behold the glory of some other Piñata of Stupidity.

 

[Tookie]

I'm just not seeing the funny tard fight here, though. At least not yet. The OP is pretty threadbare.

That's the biggest problem. OP is mostly just a link to the SPLC who have sunk so far into irrelevance that they're at the point of labeling pick-up artists "hate groups."

 

[Chris did nothing wrong]

I still don't know who the fuck Richard Spencer even is. Does he write for a news site? Work on a politician's campaigns? Sell vacuums door to door?

He's the chairman of the National Policy Institute and Washington Summit Publishers. The latter publishes books such as "Understanding Jewish Influence", "The Great Erasure: The Reconstruction of White Identity", and "Race Differences in Intelligence". They also publish Radix, a magazine that publishes articles such as "Is Black Genocide Right?"

https://web.archive.org/web/2012021...80/main/the-magazine/is-black-genocide-right/

The National Policy Institute is a think tank and lobbying group that promotes nativism of white American culture. They have a YouTube channel and produce content like this:

 

[mdrop22]

He's the chairman of the National Policy Institute and Washington Summit Publishers. The latter publishes books such as "Understanding Jewish Influence", "The Great Erasure: The Reconstruction of White Identity", and "Race Differences in Intelligence". They also publish Radix, a magazine that publishes articles such as "Is Black Genocide Right?"

https://web.archive.org/web/2012021...80/main/the-magazine/is-black-genocide-right/

So the first paragraph reads:

It strikes me that one of the main things about having a good debate is how it is framed. Get that right and the chances are something good will be the outcome. However, for too long now, when we consider questions of race, especially questions concerning the Black race, we have been framing things in completely the wrong way. Instead of asking how we can make reparations for slavery, colonialism, and Apartheid or how we can equalize academic scores and incomes, we should instead be asking questions like, "Does human civilization actually need the Black race?" "Is Black genocide right?" and, if it is, "What would be the best and easiest way to dispose of them?" With starting points like this, wisdom is sure to flourish, enlightenment to dawn.

Instead of asking "How can we fix the problem?" we should just fuck the problem to death and light it on fire so it isn't a problem anymore. Amazing debate tactics, 10/10

 

[Alec Benson Leary]

He's the chairman of the National Policy Institute and Washington Summit Publishers. The latter publishes books such as "Understanding Jewish Influence", "The Great Erasure: The Reconstruction of White Identity", and "Race Differences in Intelligence". They also publish Radix, a magazine that publishes articles such as "Is Black Genocide Right?"

So he's a racist asshole who mans a publishing group and a thinktank. In other words, he was nobody until antifa needed a villain.

 

[FuckYou]

Most of the "leaders" of the alt right are directly connected to jews in some way.

Richard Spencer posed with jews and attended some synagogues or other congregations of the jews before and is likely a CIA plant as previously suggested here.

Alex Jones (who is barely alt-right but the ZOG media will claim he is) legit admits to being a juden:

Milo is of course jewish.

Andrew Anglin of the Daily Stormer contracted someone (who's cool as fuck) of the jewish ethnicity to help significantly with building elements of his website, which is most likely an unwitting infiltrated fbi honeypot by now like Stormfront is.

David Duke seems cool but I wouldn't be surprised if even he is kosher.

The alt-light is equivalent to reddit fags compared to dedicated 8ch pol posters, but is still superior to neocons and most conservatives. The real alt-right meme is just a rehash of the concept of Anonymous. Autists trying to claim they own that movement are the reason why it's probably going to come crashing down in a few years; think Op-Chanology 2.0. The Alt-right is way better than (((neocon))) boomer fucks or neoliberal twats though.

I've not noticed any infighting but ok.

Moved to CW regardless. This is barely worthy of that because it's not an actual community and more a "lol the people i disagree with are also disagreeing with each other let us be superior to them all together" which is innately not very funny.

A significant fuel source for infighting within the alt-right (as seen especially on Daily Stormer and /pol/) is on the issue of women. I'd say on average 15~35% of the communities to be white knights who put pussy on a pedestal. However, one of the major ideas kicking off on DS is the idea of White Sharia; of severely oppressing thots and restricting women's rights. This caused a clear divide in the community with the WKs having to bow to the will of the majority and the thots in the audience making assclowns of themselves before getting sent to the kitchen. Most alt-right communities, although mostly similar, seem to hate other communities guts. /pol/ will talk shit about Daily Stormer, which will talk shit about Stormfront, etc in a continuing cycle.

Feds usually try to trick aggressive twats into agreeing to acts or conspiracy of violence, but I think all those clowns should do is to further fuel that divide to fuck the movement up, something most alt-righters are doing to a small extent already. Regarding the issues of the migrant crisis, kikery, feminazism, etc, the Alt-Right will definitely survive for at least half a decade. It's not guaranteed to be the 4th Reich as of now, until another civil war or civilizational collapse occurs. Granted that trolls boosted Trump into office, anything is definitely possible.

 

[Terrorist]

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Classic alt-right. Bitch about kikes and niggers to high heaven, but won't clean their own house. Everything is in service to the movement instead of the principles that inspired it. Oh, you want to do the right thing and out Ghoul, a pederast? Oh no you don't, he's part of the movement. He makes dank maymays for the movement, so you can't touch him. Nothing is wrong, and everything is permitted, so long as it serves the movement.

This is why the alt-lite exists, and why the alt-right has yet to really achieve anything; as outcasts, they're so desperate for allies they'll accept everyone and everything, but a lack of hard rules and integrity turns off the right people and attracts the wrong ones. Instead of the courageous aryan alphas they crave, the alt-right is a magnet to autists, weaklings, freaks and charlatans, and this is why. And as long as Grindr Greg and Ricky Dicksucker are in charge, it'll stay that way.

If you ask me, instead of taking it like a bitch, Dicky should've ran the Nazi-puncher down and kicked his commie ass. That would send a stronger message than any podcast bloviating; that he and his movement are strong and willing to fight for something. But he didn't, because the alt-right ain't shit.