Alphabet’s Sidewalk Labs scraps its ambitious Toronto project - Good riddance

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Sidewalk Labs concept for the scuppered lakefront development in Toronto.

Sidewalk Labs concept for the scuppered lakefront development in Toronto.

When Google sibling Sidewalk Labs announced in 2017 a $50 million investment into a project to redevelop a portion of Toronto’s waterfront, it seemed almost too good to be true. Someday soon, Sidewalk Labs promised, Torontonians would live and work in a 12-acre former industrial site in skyscrapers made from timber—a cheaper and more sustainable building material. Streets paved with a new sort of light-up paver would let the development change its design in seconds, able to play host to families on foot and toself-driving cars. Trash would travel through underground chutes. Sidewalks would heat themselves. Forty percent of the thousands of planned apartments would be set aside for low- and middle-income families. And the Google sister company founded to digitize and techify urban planning would collect data on all of it, in a quest to perfect city living.

Thursday, the dream died. In a Medium post, Sidewalk Labs CEO Dan Doctoroff said the company would no longer pursue the development. Doctoroff, a former New York City deputy mayor, pointed a finger at the Covid-19 pandemic. “As unprecedented economic uncertainty has set in around the world and in the Toronto real estate market, it has become too difficult to make the … project financially viable without sacrificing core parts of the plan,” he wrote.



But Sidewalk Labs’ vision was in trouble long before the pandemic. Since its inception, the project had been criticized by progressive activists concerned about how the Alphabet company would collect and protect data, and who would own that data. Conservative Ontario premier Doug Ford, meanwhile, wondered whether taxpayers would get enough bang from the project’s bucks. New York-based Sidewalk Labs wrestled with its local partner, the waterfront redevelopment agency, over ownership of the project’s intellectual property and, most critically, its financing. At times, its operators seemed confounded by the vagaries of Toronto politics. The project had missed deadline after deadline.


The partnership took a bigger hit last summer, when Sidewalk Labs released a splashy and even more ambitious 1,524-page master plan for the lot that went well beyond what the government had anticipated, and for which the company pledged to spend up to $1.3 billion to complete. The redevelopment group wondered whether some of Sidewalk Labs’ proposals related to data collection and governance were even “in compliance with applicable laws.” It balked at a suggestion that the government commit millions to extend public transit into the area, a commitment, the group reminded the company, that it could not make on its own.

That chunky master plan may remain helpful, Doctoroff said in his blog post. Sidewalk Labs did serious thinking about civic data management over the course of the two-and-half-year project. As recently as March, Sidewalk Labs executives discussed with WIRED how the company might approach the issue with complete transparency. (Critics said even those efforts did not go far enough.) Doctoroff says that work—and the work of Sidewalk Labs’ portfolio companies, which seek to tackle various urban mobility and infrastructure problems—will continue.

Smart cities
Still, the project’s end raises questions about the “smart cities” movement, which seeks to integrate cutting-edge tech tools with democratic governance. The buzzwords, all the rage when the adage “data is the new oil” generated fewer eye rolls, suffered during the techlash. Cities and their residents became more suspicious of what Silicon Valley companies might do with their data. In theory, one way to fix this sort of project is to actually start at the grassroots. “The next time this is done by Sidewalk Labs or any big tech corporation that wants to reimagine the future of neighborhoods, it will be done in close communication with communities,” says Daniel O’Brien, who studies research and policy implications of “big data” at Northeastern University's School of Public Policy.

Paradoxically, the Toronto project’s demise comes as data collection and surveillance are viewed as key tools to slow the spread of the novel coronavirus. Google codeveloped with Apple technology for smartphones that will automatically track infected patients' encounters with others. The companies say the data will only be recorded anonymously, and the contact tracing regimen may eventually liberate most Americans from sheltering in place. The world is about to go through a major experiment in what can and should be done with data. For now, an abandoned sliver of Toronto won’t be part of it.
 
NOOOOOO NOT MY TIMBER PODERINOS!!! HOW AM I GOING TO PROVE MY OBVIOUS SUPERIORITY BY EATING MY HECKIN BUGGERINOS AND CHEERING ON CHINAS CONQUEST!!!
 
Google really fucking needs that Sherman Anti trust, no company should ever be able to create their own small "City states" within actual sovereign nations.
 
The bugpod worship was strong with this boondoggle of an idea, let's look at some of those promises, shall we?

-How is timber "more sustainable" to build with than concrete? There's more inanimate rocks than living trees you have to kill to harvest on this planet, last I checked...... the average Cardinal also seems to want in live in a tree over a cinder block, but hey, maybe that's just because the ones around here are picky?

-And of course it would have one of those solar freakin' roadways.... the ones that work at 10% efficiency for the first year, and then never work again because driving on solar panels breaks them and makes them too dirty to collect any light, who knew?

-Vacuum trash disposal... because a trillion-dollar system that probably clogs if the "wrong" kind of trash is put in it and costs a fortune to roto-rooter out on a daily basis is THE FUTURE! The pipe probably ultimately fills up a dumpster for a conventional garbage truck to empty down in some hidden warehouse at the end of the block ... but, as long as people don't SEE it, they can pretend they're modern day Druids, in touch with nature and better than the rest of us who still use those last-century garbage cans.... like the Earth-hating cavemen we are. Bet it sounds an alarm bell if it detects you put a plastic straw in there so the cops can come and exile you.

-The city of the future, of course, would be 40% crackheads, er, low income people, naturally. But only for the first year, at which point the remaining 60% who are tired of being robbed and stepping in shit or discarded needles would have moved to a posher neighborhood.

- And of course, to live there you'd have to become a living breathing anthropomorphic data point, so they can collect data on you constantly because the Tech Gods promised utopia if you just collect enough data... don't question it, obey the tech Gods, for they may become angry otherwise and CTR-ALT-DEL the city! "We'll only collect the data anonymously" That's either a lie or proof of stupefying incompetence, if your goal is to identify, track and quarantine specific sick people from making others sick, you CAN'T not put a NAME to them....

How did we ever decide this shit was desirable?
 
How did we ever decide this shit was desirable?
It bullshits you into reading just enough good points to not doubt the idea as progressive and good, simply because it's lumping together futuristic ideas.
That, and the human race has become good at one thing and one thing only: selling bullshit. Whether or not that bullshit is a good thing is another topic entirely.
 
"But Sidewalk Labs’ vision was in trouble long before the pandemic. Since its inception, the project had been criticized by progressive activists concerned about how the Alphabet company would collect and protect data, and who would own that data."

When has any 'progressive activist' fought for data protection? These are the (only) progressives I may want to meet.

Remember Royals: When your shitty authoritarian technocratic nightmare fails, blame Corona.
 
>Trash would travel through underground chutes.
I'm pretty sure this idiotic idea is always the red flag of predetermined failure for every pie in the sky "city of the future" plan ever drafted.

I guess this is what happens when people who never had kids or normal pets, never lived in an older building, never lived anywhere long enough to replace the appliances, and never had to dig a new debit card back out of the trash design a "perfect" home.
 
-How is timber "more sustainable" to build with than concrete? There's more inanimate rocks than living trees you have to kill to harvest on this planet, last I checked...... the average Cardinal also seems to want in live in a tree over a cinder block, but hey, maybe that's just because the ones around here are picky?

The idea is two fold. Trees would come from farms since its something like particle board on steroids, so the length and overall quality of wood doesnt matter that much. It would also act as a carbon sink since wood is about half carbon. Who knows about the issues with mass producing the resins used though.
 
skyscrapers made from timber?
edible bugs I can stomach. being dominated by china, I'll deal. but I draw the line at living and working in a giant tree like a filthy fucking Keebler elf.
 
Lol, this is like Epcot 2: Electric Boogaloo. This is ultimately why megacorps are going to make a shitty replacement for the government. Big ideas, possibly great ideas, but zero interest in actually following through. They just want something for annual corperate responsibility shit to present to investors and the press.
 
Lol, this is like Epcot 2: Electric Boogaloo. This is ultimately why megacorps are going to make a shitty replacement for the government. Big ideas, possibly great ideas, but zero interest in actually following through. They just want something for annual corperate responsibility shit to present to investors and the press.
So exactly like every government already. Just replace investors with voters.
 
So exactly like every government already. Just replace investors with voters.
No, government does shit. Yeah, it's late, overbudget, and usually only 2/3rds done. But it functions, and they never get bored and walk off when a bridge or dam is underconstruction. The government's problem is corruption and red tape, the megacorp's problem is they're out of touch and morally hollow.
 
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