Alien: Covenant/Alien Series thoughts.

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Okay, II might finally bite the comic path since I'm not getting any pussy these days anyways and all my retarded internet friends tell me to read The Long Halloween since I'm a batman sperg sometimes. What's the real good shit for the Alien comics. "Earth War" sounds tight and my non-euclidian prick sputtered relentlessly when I saw space trucks in E1.
Depends on what sort of stuff you like. Genocide, the Earth War arc, and Rogue were good. They take place back before Alien 3 came out, so they take the assumption that Hicks, Newt, and Ripley survived. The first Batman crossover with Alien wasn't too bad either.

Outside of that? I liked Armageddon, Alchemy, and the Gibson comic for Alien 3. A lot of them are decent, but it gets stupid when you think of how many assets were burned for it. I sort of pick and choose.
 
This show continues to snowball. After E6, it's pretty clear the showrunners are making the Deckard Bladerunner android to be the mastermind behind everything.
It's pretty much a different show hiding behind the Alien brand/name, too. It makes me wonder if it was going to be a Blade Runner show at one point.
 
It's pretty much a different show hiding behind the Alien brand/name, too. It makes me wonder if it was going to be a Blade Runner show at one point.
I mistyped. I should say Roy from Bladerunner. I think the similarities between the two are no coincidence, but it's clearly his show from what it seems so far.
 
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This rustled my jimmies:
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Zeta Reticuli is a real binary star system about 40 light years from Earth (39.3 if you want to be anal about it, I'm rounding up). Without FTL, it would take at least 40 years to get to Earth from there. But in Alien, where there is absolutely no indication whatsoever that the Nostromo has a brand-new revolutionary propulsion system, they're about 10 months from Earth. Which means they have FTL.

Also the big important arbitration meeting only has one arbitrator? Wot?
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Also, Godsmack?
 
This rustled my jimmies:
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Oh wow, they actually were dumb enough to not only shit on stuff Ridley Scott himself established, but it makes the Maginot subplot even more fucking retarded. So first of all, FTL was hardcore established like decades before the ship would've left. This was due to the Weyland Corp history that was done as a promo for Prometheus. After all, what do you think that and the Covenant used?

But it makes the crew being retarded and Yutani blowing their effort on this specimen run orders of magnitude worse. They now wasted a lot more time, effort, and risk by doing this. This isn't just some risky venture deep out of charted space; this was wasting manpower and quite a bit of resources on a generation deep project. Picking morons on purpose with that is beyond insulting and proof your story sucks ass.

This show is really trying to out tard the Jurassic World shit isn't it?
 
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I'll write at greater length tomorrow, probably, but I have to say this now.

Noah Hawley is so scientifically illiterate that he thinks the reason for cryosleep is because they haven't invented FTL, yet. I had to pause it and rewind to be sure of what I was actually hearing about Wendy inventing FTL one day. This whole time, Noah Hawley has been thinking the reason the Nostromo was "ten months from Earth" was because he thinks they're going sub-light speed. He thinks FTL means Star Wars "two hours between Star Systems" movie style and that cryosleep means Aliens universe doesn't have it.

This man is to Science, what King Herod was to childcare.
 
This man is to Science, what King Herod was to childcare.
It's also stupid because even if you want to discount Prometheus, which had people crack FTL travel in 2032 and a practical SEV using it in 2034 in Alien they did crack FTL; it doesn't matter.

The Nostromo, which was a ship that actually exists at this time frame and definitively is canon in this pile of shit, was ten months out from Earth via their angle at Zeta II Reticuli. Which as you mentioned is 40 light years out. 10 months is a lot shorter of a period of time than 40 years. Ergo, even the dumbest fucker should be able to calculate that FTL had to be a mature technology at this stage. Wendy can't be shit to FTL given THEY ALREADY HAVE IT.

Also I want to futher clarify how fucking stupid this makes the Maginot.

By having the Maginot be a pure sleeper ship this massively complicates their containment of the biological specimens. How come none of them died due to age? What nutrients did they recieve over those 30 years? Because again, the only entity that feasibly doesn't need it is the Xeno, which can absorb energy from natural electricity fields. The plant, the eye-thing, the leeches? All of them can't also not need food. Water would also be at a premium.

How did they resupply as needed to maintain these creatures and maintain their own stores, since no FTL means space infrastructure is EVEN HARDER to maintain? Where are they getting replacement solenoid panels? Where would they get repairs done in drydock in event of rough landing or micrometeor damage?

Also this makes the engineer's betrayal even DUMBER. Yutani is even futher on the ups compared to when he left; by like a lot. And he yeets the people who he woke with and worked with with no guilt at all. This wouldn't be as bad if this trip was a deep probe and a shorter run, but no. He spent years with them, waking up and maintaining shit with them.

This also makes making them all disposible retards even less excusable. You now have this project be something generational in scope. You have decent odds of not living to see it. This is a big amount of money wasted with little chance of returns. You would want a good team to run it.

I actually think this show out dumbed Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom. That's fucking impressive.
 
@Adamska You're picking apart all these little details and flaws on something that has such giant and dramatic failings that it's like... what's the inverse of gilding the lily? It's like seeing someone drive a car off a cliff and you're commenting on the brakelights being out and the driver crossing his hands when he steers. Yes, it's probably harder to supply water for sixty years of isolated flight than if you can stop off places and resupply but it's the sort of thing I could head-cannon or rationalise or come up with passable technical explanations for. Especially for the size of the ship.

Look at this thing. The still makes it look a little like it's far in front of that building just to its starboard but at the same time you can see that parts of it are both before and ahead of the building - dodgy CGI depth-perspective I think. Regardless, the thing is absurdly huge.

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So frankly, I'm okay with them having silly amounts of water and supplies onboard or spare solenoid panels. It's more the giant logic holes for me. Though far be it from me to criticise if someone wants to go to the extra trouble of dotting the i's and crossing the t's on this suicide note for logic.

I thought I'd end up writing a big old diatribe on the latest episode. But weirdly it actually had some good elements, albeit highly predictable ones. It's the first time the Prodigy CEO has actually come across as somewhat intelligent, although Ms. Yutani looks like a total pushover as a consequence. The genitalia flies (that's deliberate, right?) are suitably gross even if the whole foot in the door scene is silly. At least with the kid character you could almost see the stupid behaviour being believable.

Want an absolutely insane idea? Kirsch will have a connection to Ash. Either sending Ash on the Nostromo mission to get the eggs or FML, transferring himself into a new body and becoming Ash.

Anyway, I can't be bothered writing much on this episode. The infant Xenomorph actually looked alright, though it's not really a xenomorph and takes away most of the horror. Wendy was actually less annoying this time. But the "inventing FTL" line puts this in a whole new category of stupidity even more so than before. It overshadows everything else and makes even the most valid criticisms of other flaws in the show kind of pointless before its all consuming singular idiocy.

Credit where it's due, I saw this comment beneath a Critical Drinker video and it made me laugh with its perfection:

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Now I can't get the image out of my head of Dave Lister, Cat, Kryten and Rimmer as the crew of the Maginot instead. Poster is right - they would do better.
 
@Adamska You're picking apart all these little details and flaws on something that has such giant and dramatic failings that it's like... what's the inverse of gilding the lily? It's like seeing someone drive a car off a cliff and you're commenting on the brakelights being out and the driver crossing his hands when he steers. Yes, it's probably harder to supply water for sixty years of isolated flight than if you can stop off places and resupply but it's the sort of thing I could head-cannon or rationalise or come up with passable technical explanations for. Especially for the size of the ship.
I mostly decided to pick on that sort of shit because I'm being told by agitprop and consoomers that this is supposed to be a serious and real people sci-fi story. It's literally one of the big things I hear people try to use to defend this shit.

So with that in mind I just felt it fitting to highlight just why such a long term mission is risky and demands you put highly competent people in it and plot for reserves. Why you need to have extra repair tools, resources, and even air. This isn't the easier to handwave secret mission that goes wrong, but you can ignore this shit. In that case, you can off screen describe the ruse as they bypass port authorities and can restock at zaibatsu warehouses.

No; this is a long journey to deep space, where the slightest failure of computation could lead to them getting sucked into the orbit of a rogue planet, or shot to shit and back by meteoroids. They have to travel at sublight, through voids poorly charted and understood. They are the tree that you won't live to hide under its shade.

I should note that even fucking Alien: Covenant was smart enough to show how this could be risky.

If you want to play by the rule of this being lauded for being firmly sci-fi, then fine. I'll fucking grill you on that. Don't come crying to me when you prove more retarded than the people who tried to claim hybrids were mutants as a cope for JW: Afterbirth.

The show absolutely failed to make most of its key run interesting, let alone good. That's a titanic failure and it really can't win me back due to fucking up the premise this badly.

Also when I hear infant xeno, I just hear "more merch" given how this has been a common issue with entertainment in general. Afterbirth had that, Disney legitimately is desperate to milk it, and this would allow them to further try and fail to understand the monster's horrid nature.

Like don't get me wrong; comics and even games did do arcs where the xenos were treated like shit and got revenge. But I don't trust this production with spoons, let alone something like that.
 
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At this point, the only character I root and care for.. is the eye monster. The only thing missing is them playing entry of the gladiators on repeat in the facility.
It and Morrow are probably the best aspects of the show and honestly it should have been from his point of view if they wanted to actually make this piece of crap work. I'm saying this since it's rather damning that the show noticeably improves when you're not following the Lost Boys nor Wendy. Like if it was mainly from his POV, Cavalier's as an up and comer who's nutty enough to try and take on the Big Leagues, some people in say the government that Prodigy basically owns, and Wey-Yu corporate elements, you'd have a decent set of POVs to focus on for a TV show. It's actively made worse for the stupid Peter Pan allegory, which further cripples your ability to take this shit seriously, and is too easily used to make everyone retarded.

I also for all I've shat on the other aliens do think adding them was a good choice. It fits the unknown horror aspect you can do with biological forms; I just think they botched their designs. Eye Monster should've been a very good mimic and more like a cephalopod, likely with an internal round mantle so it looks like a snail/octopus that can mimic eyes with chromatophores. The plants and ticks should've been more interesting in their designs, and lastly do not let the Alien get mogged as the chief threat. It makes them look stupid.

It's really damning that they wasted the front half on the worst shit, and even in the back half there's all sorts of fuck-ups. It's very lucky that people tend to have lowered standards from garbage productions and also an unfamiliarity with sci-fi to boot since most of the ones that came out as of late besides Expanse was soft slop.
 
It's really damning that they wasted the front half on the worst shit,
A good chunk of the budget probably went towards licensing those popular rock and metal songs that play before the end credits of each episode. The show is filmed in Thailand so filming permits and all that stuff are likely only a fraction of what it would cost in Georgia or Canada.
 
A good chunk of the budget probably went towards licensing those popular rock and metal songs that play before the end credits of each episode.
Noah Hawley is the singer on one of the songs doing a cover version. Imagine Ridley Scott singing rock covers during moments of Alien. Only complete and total faggots are allowed to work in show business currently. This is the future of the Alien (and probably Predator) franchise.
 
Noah Hawley is the singer on one of the songs doing a cover version. Imagine Ridley Scott singing rock covers during moments of Alien. Only complete and total faggots are allowed to work in show business currently. This is the future of the Alien (and probably Predator) franchise.
Sounds like a nice little bonus to Hawley's account then. Gets some music licence fees on top of directing.
 
The relationship the xenomorph has with the other species in this show is really interesting to me, I don’t think they get along, and I’m really curious about what the eye is going to do when it inevitably gets Boy Faggot
 
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