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Don't they establish in Alien (through Ash exposition) that W-Y had already decrypted/translated the distress signal, and set the Nostromo's route so it would pick it up and then be 'forced' by interstellar law to go investigate? Though why they'd send a half-dozen space truckers, and then a whole colony of civilians decades later, and finally a single squad of USCMC does point to their general derpiness. They could have sent a scientific team with overwhelming USCMC firepower as security from the start, or any time between Alien and Aliens, instead they keep doing things the perfect way to make sure the xenomorphs run amok every time. If they want to see how good xenomorphs infest and fight they could have easily secured the Juggernaut and done all that in a controlled setting but nooooooooooooooooo
It's hinted in the novelization that the company managed to detect the transmission from scouting uncharted or recently discovered systems for mineral extraction or colonization or some other means, did know of it as a warning, and then sent the nearest company asset to investigate to stake a claim and see what exactly it was. They then tried to ensure completion of acquisition by inserting a synthetic sleeper. That asset was the Nostromo, which was at Thedus stocking an automated refinery's worth of petrochemicals, and pretty darn close via shipping route to Zeta Reticuli II. This was why Ash replaced their science officer right before launch.

However, my assumption here is that Wey-Yu probably didn't know just how viable this warning was, and that for all we know the Special Order was due to them realizing they had sapient, intelligent alien lifeforms on world. The transmission and its recording was clearly inhuman, which at that time was a BIG deal. Reminder that intelligent alien races like the Arcturians were not discovered yet, so this would be a big goddamn find that could be a big break for a lot of its divisions. So Special Order 937 for all we knew could have been in remarks to taking samples of the alien crew to bring back for study, and it may have been a blanket coverage for any xenotech they found. Ash likely was there to initially at least ensure people like Parker or Brett wouldn't try to duck out or take a lucky dip.

However I tend to assume that the company wasn't fully aware of what the warning specified exactly. I also again am taking the logic that Ash's model tends towards going Rampant and being "twitchy", so his own suppositions may have been biased due to those faults. He may have interpreted the Order and his own contempt for Humanity in a way that meant keep the parasite no matter what, even if his efforts result in failing to bring it to corporate. However even he'd see there'd be useful applications to it based on medical studies on the facehugger.

Don't get me wrong, if the company managed to get an egg or Big Chap into storage, they'd try to exploit the shit out of it. I myself can invent quite a few reasons that are not weapon related for it, and I have in this thread. But I tend to regard this as a mix of fuck-ups and not knowing key info.

But then moron directors and retard audiences just took the dumbest take on this.
 
So out of sheer perversity and so that I could rant some more here, I watched the third episode. I experienced moments of self-contempt when I found a few small things that I actually liked in the show, but thankfully those were mere drops in the desert so I'm not in danger of liking this rubbish.

FWIW, the two things are Timothy Olyphant as Kirsh - he manages to imbue the character with some presence, one of the kids... "Curly" I think, I actually found likeable. She's the one who went to the CEO guy and asked if Wendy was his favourite. I appreciated a character with some actual motivation and pro-activeness. And the third thing was that they actually addressed the Peter Pan thing with one of the children asking why they weren't allowed to keep their own names and had to be assigned characters. Moving this (partially) from a stupid obsession of the director's to a stupid obsession of the character's. Though it's still a really weak attempt to make the show deep.

But a few minor candles in the void do not illuminate. The rest has so much stupidity, so much poor directing. And occasional franchise-inappropriate montages set to 80's guitar riffs.

Lets pick on something canon breaking. We've talked how it fucks with the wider lore but I think this episode fucked with the core movies, even. The Cyborg guy calls Ms. Yutani and thinks it's someone else because she's too young. Ms. Yutani tells him the Yutani he knew was her grandmother. This leads to him explaining (more exposition) that he's been away for a "lifetime". And I think 65 years was mentioned, iirc. So Alien Earth takes place in 2120, right? That's a couple of years before John Hurt has the worst snog of his life. 60+ years ago puts the cyborg dude going off on his "life's work" of collecting the menagerie in 2160. That's before Prometheus which took place in 2093. So he predates Synths like David. Okay... maybe as he's "just" a Cyborg. But a giant research ship touring alien worlds and collecting monsters three decades before the Prometheus mission where they're all excited at the prospect of discovering alien life? You can lawyer your way through it I think, in that I don't think Prometheus explicitly states it's the first time they encounter alien life (though it's implied). But still, this is really reaching. Also, it's weird that his ship has a whole crew of people who are recent enough to be talking about the new upstart company Prodigy from a few years ago and also have young members who look 19-ish, but it's a 60 year mission. Did he come back to swap in a new crew but never get in touch himself to learn that his boss had passed on? Did they fly a whole new crew all the way out there only to crew the ship on its way back to Earth? I guess the latter or some variation on it but for a show that is half-exposition, seems a bit of a fuck-up to leave such gaping mysteries. I believe the real answer is that the writer just doesn't give a fuck about existing stuff, except to steal a few memberberry tropes. Are we looking at this being such a fuck-up that the Alien TV show ends up non-canon?

The guy really doesn't understand the point of the xenomorph. Having Wendy solo it in single-combat with a blade she ripped off a paper cutter is terrible. And oh yes, she's still standing there afterwards with a trickle of white synthetic blood coming down from above her hairline. It makes the xenomorph non-threatening. I believe the term is "Worfed" where something is set up to be a badass purely so that you can show how your pet character is more badass. And what the Hell was the Alien doing in that scene anyway? It made no sense. So it kidnaps Hermit to lure Wendy into a trap. Why? Simple question, no discernible answer. And once it's lured her there its goal is to... leave. Why? If it sensed she was synthetic and no good to her, fine - but why set up a trap for in the first place? If it wants to kill her, why leave when she's trapped in the trailer?

They also do a torture scene for the alien where Wendy is breaking down at the screams of the face-hugger as it's dissected. Even momentarily, humanizing the xenomorph and introducing empathy for its suffering via your view-point character, is a mistake. The point of the xenomorph is it's supposed to be alien, unknowable and unrelatable. It is the perfect organism, purely hostile, inimicable to life. This director wants to show off his Mary Sue's empathy by having her hear it in pain being tortured by the humans. The alien isn't just a creature - it embodies the hostility of the universe, the way the universe doesn't care about humans. That was the theme and even Romulus picked up on that theme and worked a plot around it.

Also, showing the xenomorph lying there, being carried around on stretchers, etc. Just bad. There's so much wrong with this show. The things that are wrong for the Alien franchise and the things that are wrong because they're just terrible ideas or directing.

Don't they establish in Alien (through Ash exposition) that W-Y had already decrypted/translated the distress signal, and set the Nostromo's route so it would pick it up and then be 'forced' by interstellar law to go investigate? Though why they'd send a half-dozen space truckers, and then a whole colony of civilians decades later, and finally a single squad of USCMC does point to their general derpiness. They could have sent a scientific team with overwhelming USCMC firepower as security from the start, or any time between Alien and Aliens, instead they keep doing things the perfect way to make sure the xenomorphs run amok every time. If they want to see how good xenomorphs infest and fight they could have easily secured the Juggernaut and done all that in a controlled setting but nooooooooooooooooo
Already got one answer from @Adamska but I'll give you one more. Despite their power, Weyland-Yutani are not all powerful. We can reasonably guess that maybe they want to pick up this thing on the downlow. We know in Aliens that there's ICC quarantine that he would have to smuggle the embryos back through and there are references to quarantine procedure in the first movie, too. If you want the expanded lore there was also a plague that damn near wiped out an entire large colony of millions of people and caused a big beefing up of quarantine laws. A mining hauler stopping off as per procedure is a lot easier to say "hey, these things happen" than doing a proper scientific expedition. They also likely don't have a full idea of what they're getting into (though Alien Earth or other events might retcon that somewhat). I also think there could be a time element to it. Ash is swapped in at the very last minute. They want to get this stuff before either competitors or independents (both of which exist at this point) find it or the authorities get wind of it and start locking stuff down.

There's also the fact that W-Y is a big and cut-throat corporation. The very fact that by the time of Aliens nobody has a clue about the Nostromo or the diversion to LV-426, tells you that it was most likely somebody's personal scheme. All that stuff I wrote about keeping it secret from the authorities. Hell, it might have been someone trying to keep it secret from Dick down the hall who keeps rearranging departments to get himself the best projects.

I think the chief difference though, is that in both Alien and Aliens the characters and setting is well done enough and believable enough that faced with mysteries like that we think "hmmm, maybe it was this thing going on, that would make sense" and fill in gaps in a fun way. Whereas in this show the "gaps" are more just outright errors that are stupid and everything else is stupid as well, so you're not inclined to.

Reminder that intelligent alien races like the Arcturians were not discovered yet, so this would be a big goddamn find that could be a big break for a lot of its divisions.
I'm convinced that the Arcturians were never meant to be aliens, but were just the result of some writer being too autistic to understand that when a couple of marines are joking about "it don't matter with those arcturians" that they're probably just a weird and fruity lot, like some non-binary society or lots of lady-boys or something. That the colony is just Space Bangkok. But Mr. Autistic writer goes "Ah - they are a hermaphroditic alien species" and put it in the lore.

Now the RPG made them a human variant put there by the Engineers (probably). But damage done. Stuck with sentient talking aliens in the franchise.
 
Already got one answer from @Adamska but I'll give you one more. Despite their power, Weyland-Yutani are not all powerful. We can reasonably guess that maybe they want to pick up this thing on the downlow. We know in Aliens that there's ICC quarantine that he would have to smuggle the embryos back through and there are references to quarantine procedure in the first movie, too. If you want the expanded lore there was also a plague that damn near wiped out an entire large colony of millions of people and caused a big beefing up of quarantine laws. A mining hauler stopping off as per procedure is a lot easier to say "hey, these things happen" than doing a proper scientific expedition.
This is the other big reason it was done on the down-low. Wey-Yu is an extremely large and powerful corporation, but it does have competition and planetary bodies and regulations it has to at least contend with, even if it sees itself above it. Space haulers doing a standard check for distress and coming back is routine and hidden. Also if the company got the signal, that means other corporations or wildcatters might've also gotten a signal.

You low key see how that can go with Isolation, when the Aneisidora found evidence of distress and saw dollar signs from salvage. And imagine the tech from the derelict. It alone would be worth keeping a find. FOMO is a bitch in this setting, but a very realistic fear.
I'm convinced that the Arcturians were never meant to be aliens, but were just the result of some writer being too autistic to understand that when a couple of marines are joking about "it don't matter with those arcturians" that they're probably just a weird and fruity lot, like some non-binary society or lots of lady-boys or something. That the colony is just Space Bangkok. But Mr. Autistic writer goes "Ah - they are a hermaphroditic alien species" and put it in the lore.

Now the RPG made them a human variant put there by the Engineers (probably). But damage done. Stuck with sentient talking aliens in the franchise.
I always assumed in the movie that it meant a specific colony that played itself up like space Bangkok or Seoul to serve as the Vietnam allegory. A safe port for roughnecks to let loose on. A place for fun, debauchery, and buggery.

But hey, they make them aliens over the decades in comics and RPG books? I'm going to use it to highlight why finding an alien signal that makes noises that creep people out when it's thought to be speech could be a big deal.

Also yeah, the choice to have the Maginot be a part of a 65 year tour to find specimens is retarded. It's not quite retarded enough to break technology, since Prometheus chooses to kick logic in the dick and have FTL Jump tech be invented in the 2030s, as well as atmospheric processing by 2039... which would've made Sevastopol Station not really worth it TBH unless those terraformers only became cheaper recently, but hey it's why I don't count Prometheus to be canon really.

But it's really dumb that they would be working for them despite the merger not happening until like year 40 of their tour. Hell, they'd likely assume they'd be working under Yutani alone, and get confused when they realize the merger happened. Oh also, Captain Hook-Kotto's prosthetic would look more fake since they didn't crack realistic synths until like David 7 or 8. Same with the ship; it should be a boxy piece of shit that makes the Nostromo look good if it's that old.

I get trying to find specimens, but I'd believe this more if this ship went out for say... a 20 year tour after the chaos of Weyland losing its founder on a vanity ship project.
 
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The idea of a ship filled with the galaxies top trumps of horror parasites, crashing into a city that has absolutely zero clue what to do about them, is a neat one.
This has been done before. It's literally the plot of Alien 3, AvP:R, or The Crazies. Just they had to do it in a rural town or small prison to keep the budget down. It's similar to The Thing as well. It's also similar to plots like 28 Days Later or other zombie outbreak films where containment fails and entire countries get overrun with infected. We've seen this plot before in both the Alien and Predator universes. Noah Hawley is just rehashing other ideas from better writers. They probably cast Timothy Olyphant for this show because he was the lead in The Crazies.

Even the transhuman and android stories are copied straight from Westworld or Ghost in the Shell and other stories. These are just generic sci-fi stories, reduced to goyslop, with the Alien and Weyland (and Predator) brands thrown in for free marketing. With Disney shilling out in full force.
EDIT: THERE HAS GOT TO BE A BETTER WAY OF STORING THOSE FUCKING EGGS REEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!
Remember how stupid the scientists were in Prometheus and Covenant? Same writers and producers are making this show. The characters are as idiotic and unprofessional as the pathetic faggots responsible for this abortion of a television series. This post could be improved with Peter Pan references.
 
This has been done before. It's literally the plot of Alien 3, AvP:R, or The Crazies. Just they had to do it in a rural town or small prison to keep the budget down. It's similar to The Thing as well. It's also similar to plots like 28 Days Later or other zombie outbreak films where containment fails and entire countries get overrun with infected. We've seen this plot before in both the Alien and Predator universes. Noah Hawley is just rehashing other ideas from better writers. They probably cast Timothy Olyphant for this show because he was the lead in The Crazies.
I wouldn't mind seeing it again, but done well and done with the Alien. I'm not opposed to a fun popcorn flick TV series. It's just that this isn't that. It wants to be "Elevated" and it's just retarded instead. The Alien set a trap to lure in a synthetic lifeform, and then...got its head smashed the fuck in by her? This is retarded.
 
I'm convinced that the Arcturians were never meant to be aliens, but were just the result of some writer being too autistic to understand that when a couple of marines are joking about "it don't matter with those arcturians" that they're probably just a weird and fruity lot, like some non-binary society or lots of lady-boys or something. That the colony is just Space Bangkok. But Mr. Autistic writer goes "Ah - they are a hermaphroditic alien species" and put it in the lore.
That's exactly what I thought when I heard that line. Assumed it was referring to a whore house or prostitutes. You know things people traveling the world on ships are famous for visiting.
 
I tried so hard to love this show but man.. with every new episode it gets worse. For a show called "ALIENS:Earth" it sure as fuck feels less and less like Aliens.
Hell, the only thing telling me this is about Aliens in the last episode was the beginning Title with the musical stinger.

There's so many plotholes and weird decisions going on that I don't even know myself anymore why I'm watching this.
How can the Alien murder a half dozen people in a room within seconds, including chopping a guy in half (How???) yet it keeps playing around with that brother dude. About 5 times he gets jumped and only at the end he gets impaled. Talk about obvious plotarmor.
And how come the Aliens blood is only corrosive on demand? Alien gets stabbed and bleeds onto a truck and burns a huge hole into it, but Wendy can lop its head off and the acid just stays on the blade??
Idk man. Maybe I should lobotomize myself before watching to enjoy it.

They should have just the Aliens: Earthwar comics as base and made a show about that.

Edit: And what's with the fucking rock music shoved in at the weirdest times??
 
How can the Alien murder a half dozen people in a room within seconds, including chopping a guy in half (How???) yet it keeps playing around with that brother dude. About 5 times he gets jumped and only at the end he gets impaled. Talk about obvious plotarmor.
This is how all horror movie monsters are. Sometimes the monster is rampage killing dozens or hundreds. Other times it runs in the opposite direction of the main characters. The plot armor is usually obvious. The actors and actresses on the poster will live until the last scene or survive the entire series. The random unnamed characters get massacred. Alien fans can bitch all they want but when the writers killed Hicks and Newt in the third movie, showing that there was no plot armor, people whined incessantly that their favorites should have been left alive.

This can be done well though. Take a movie like Se7en. The serial killer has a gun to one of the detective's heads and lets him go instead of killing him outright. Later we find out that he intentionally lets the detective escape as part of his overall plan. Alien 3 has the xenomorph kill prisoners ruthlessly. Then suddenly stops in front of Ripley. The reason being she is pregnant with a queen. The ultimate horror. There was a deleted scene in Prometheus where the Engineer was going to kill the crew who woke him. But then changes his mind when he sees that humans have built spaceships, androids, works of art, and he decides that they are worthy of living and so he goes to fight the squid on his own for them. This was obviously massacred in the editing room.
And how come the Aliens blood is only corrosive on demand? Alien gets stabbed and bleeds onto a truck and burns a huge hole into it, but Wendy can lop its head off and the acid just stays on the blade??
This has been a problem since Alien. The xenomorph in that film gets shot with a grappling hook and is then sucked into the engine yet none of its blood splashed into the ship. In Aliens the xenomorphs are getting blasted with shotguns point blank and the blood spatters only in non-lethal ways against the main characters. Even the facehugger not bleeding through the hull into space is just convenience for the plot to not stall them for repairs even further.
Edit: And what's with the fucking rock music shoved in at the weirdest times??
This is how all hipster faggots do soundtracks now. Dissonant and unsuitable music to make reddit faggots clap that they recognized some pop culture song. Same reason why Alien 4 had jokes about Walmart. Or Alien: Earth has tons of direct references to Disney films.
 
I could've swore that the show only avoided the guillotine due to RatCo intervening during the buyout of Fox. Either way, given how awful this show is I'm assuming Hawley would've done this even if this wasn't a mandate, so either way it would've still had Peter Pan syndrome but more shit in it.
 
I could've swore that the show only avoided the guillotine due to RatCo intervening during the buyout of Fox. Either way, given how awful this show is I'm assuming Hawley would've done this even if this wasn't a mandate, so either way it would've still had Peter Pan syndrome but more shit in it.
Ridley Scott's company was involved from the start so it was always going to get made. But Scott has routinely chosen incompetent writers and producers for his own projects. And hasn't done anything noteworthy since 2001. Once someone with zero talent like Hawley became attached it was doomed. Throw in COVID and some union strikes and it took over half a decade to make this abortion.
 
No. It's entirely through FX and Scott Free (Ridley Scott's company). Hawley and the other faggots are throwing in Disney references on their own.
Disney owns fx, 20th Century ip and all their production studios, and Hulu. The show is on d+ in Europe.

Here's a pop-up "adxhibition" from London with everything important in the first line.

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This is how all horror movie monsters are. Sometimes the monster is rampage killing dozens or hundreds. Other times it runs in the opposite direction of the main characters. The plot armor is usually obvious. The actors and actresses on the poster will live until the last scene or survive the entire series.
Alien itself is a great counter-example to all that you just listed. The xenomorph is patient, picks people off in isolation and at no point that I recall does it arbitrarily spare somebody. Without the benefit of hindsight and pop culture, you'd have no real surety that Ripley was the one to survive or even if anybody did. Based on actor fame at the time, you'd probably go with John Hurt being the last one standing.

The random unnamed characters get massacred. Alien fans can bitch all they want but when the writers killed Hicks and Newt in the third movie, showing that there was no plot armor, people whined incessantly that their favorites should have been left alive.
They absolutely did. It was a horrible gut-punch after everything those characters had been through in the last one. But it backs up the point that movies don't have to have plot armour over everything. And though most do the biggest issue is how obvious it is in Alien: Earth. A franchise that has historically been very, very good about avoiding it. Plot Armour isn't "this character survives." Plot Armour is "this character survives only because they're important to the plot." And this problem is all over Alien: Earth. It jars horribly with the franchise.

I don't quite get the thrust of your argument. You say that this is how all horror movie monsters are then go to some lengths to show how in the Alien movies, they aren't.

This has been a problem since Alien. The xenomorph in that film gets shot with a grappling hook and is then sucked into the engine yet none of its blood splashed into the ship.
The grappling hook pushes him out into Space when he's holding onto the door frame and it's not really clear how deeply it penetrates (until Romulus years later decides to show it deeply embedded) but if there were blood it would be getting blown out in the same direction as the alien. Liquid doesn't stream in zero gravity either, it just puddles up. He was mostly outside the ship when she shot him. He bounces into the engine briefly but it's a long shot. There's nothing egregious in Alien as regards the acid, imo.


In Aliens the xenomorphs are getting blasted with shotguns point blank and the blood spatters only in non-lethal ways against the main characters.
A character (Drake) dies directly by shooting an alien at short range and having the blood spray on him. Hicks, whom you're presumably referring to, ends up incapacitated and unconscious in the shuttle when he shoots an alien coming at him in the lift and it catches him on his armour. It's not a problem that he manages to shoot one with a shotgun earlier on. Not every time you shoot a xenomorph needs to result in you being caught by acid. The one in the lift is lunging towards him and above him and was shot with a pulse rifle at range. The shotgun is literally down the xenomorph's throat meaning any acid that did spray would be shooting out of the back of its skull away from him. Again, Aliens as a whole does a really good job of keeping things consistent and without the use of plot armour. You see people die from the acid, you see the holes in the decking and you don't really know who will live. Ripely you can guess at because she's from the first one. Newt because they wouldn't kill a kid. (Right? Right? Oh, whoops). As to the rest, there's a hint of romance with Hicks but it's not the sort of film you can rely on that. I've watched it with people who've never seen it and they guess that Bishop will betray the humans and that Gorman is going to redeem himself. Which he does but they meant by saving people. It's a wild ride and keeps you guessing and never gives me the vibes like Alien: Earth does. As someone else said of the xenomorph in the latter - kills a dozen people in less than 20 seconds. Spends 10 seconds crawling towards Hermit because he's important.

I mean, this scene is just not comparable to the xenomorph in any of the first three movies:

By my rough count from entering the apartment to the last scream is around 17 seconds. During this time Hermit lies beneath another man's body before finally rolling it off him. Immediately before this he stands slowly staring at the xenomorph unfold with a gun in his hand. Doesn't shoot.

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And look at how these corpses are - four of them are still sitting upright in their chairs as if they'd been shot. How does that happen? Oh, and it also leaps right into his line of fire just after this - he still doesn't shoot. And it misses him. Just as earlier he was able to make a jump across a gap that the xenomorph couldn't yet in this scene jumps across the room like a cheetah. This show and Alien/Aliens are not remotely on the same level in terms of believability.

Even the facehugger not bleeding through the hull into space is just convenience for the plot to not stall them for repairs even further.
It's not. That's the first instance of acid for blood we see in the franchise. It sets the benchmark for what the acid is and isn't capable of. They could have had it not eat through any floor, they could have had it go out the bottom of the ship. If they had done the latter it would have just been another scene of them fixing it and saying "I got that hole patched. It'll do for now." It doesn't matter. What matters is if later instances of the xenomorph bleeding (or not) are consistent with it. They're limited with budget and SFX at the time somewhat - like in the big scene where they come out of the ceiling you can't see rains of acid coming out of the props - but on the whole all first three of the movies do a really good job of maintaining our suspension of disbelief.

I lost the last of my suspension of disbelief for Alien: Earth when real Wendy sees the adult body and says "she's so pretty."
 
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I watched a compilation of Xenomorph-only scenes from the show and I hate how the Xenomorph looks so... clean? It lost all of the uncanny bio-mechanical looks, the face and teeth are solid instead of slimy, and so on. It lost all of the alien nature.

People already mentioned the behavior and plot armor, but I want to put mention on a scene where it dramatically moonwalks backwards to a door window like a typical modern monster. The hell?
 
Yes. The xenomorph is notably drier in this. Also notably a dude in a costume at several points in the show. For the game Alien: Isolation the designers went to extreme lengths to accurately match everything from the movies with one exception - they gave it digitigrade feet. And that was the right call. They were far closer to the movie alien than this.
 
Yes. The xenomorph is notably drier in this. Also notably a dude in a costume at several points in the show. For the game Alien: Isolation the designers went to extreme lengths to accurately match everything from the movies with one exception - they gave it digitigrade feet. And that was the right call. They were far closer to the movie alien than this.
The team that made Isolation were obssessive about matching the original movie, even down to modelling the film grain filter on the actual stock it was shot on and mimicking the distinctive distortion of the lenses used to shoot it.

This show is made by idiots who don't give a shit.
 
Paint your own baby chestburster! Those are the old labels, but it looks like Ultramarine Blue and probably the Black Wash (not entirely sure, GW's washes were always the one paint product of theirs where there's no reason to try the competition). Can't tell what the red is, but it's not as blindingly bright as Bloody Red which is great for that 2e early to mid 1990s boltgun or Tyranid claw look. Carnage Red maybe? that's Reaper, who make a solid enough alternative to GW washes if you're slopping up a wet palette - grab a liner, some water and matte medium and you should be pretty close to the old Devlan Mud or Badab Black GW hasn't made in almost 15 years.
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Not that I've ever painted a Gale Force 9 Aliens: Another Day In The Corps miniature in Genestealer colors with a Goblin Green rimmed base or anything weird like that. :tomgirl:
 
Paint your own baby chestburster! Those are the old labels, but it looks like Ultramarine Blue and probably the Black Wash (not entirely sure, GW's washes were always the one paint product of theirs where there's no reason to try the competition). Can't tell what the red is, but it's not as blindingly bright as Bloody Red which is great for that 2e early to mid 1990s boltgun or Tyranid claw look. Carnage Red maybe? that's Reaper, who make a solid enough alternative to GW washes if you're slopping up a wet palette - grab a liner, some water and matte medium and you should be pretty close to the old Devlan Mud or Badab Black GW hasn't made in almost 15 years.
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Not that I've ever painted a Gale Force 9 Aliens: Another Day In The Corps miniature in Genestealer colors with a Goblin Green rimmed base or anything weird like that. :tomgirl:
Nuln oil fixes everything
 
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