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I'd say I don't believe it, but then I remember how often these fucking idiots turn to CGI to cover for their inability to plan and reshoot shit through, which means that it costs a lot more money for uglier work than the stuff made like 20 years ago with CGI. I also then have to remember that this was a nightmare project that almost died before the buy-out, and that RatCo likely interfered a bit. Not that it excuses Hawley.Supposedly the show has a higher than $250 million per season budget.
I've thought on the other not really looking like real creatures I'd find in Alien, and I'd say out of the lot the only one I kind of like is the eye tentacle thing, and that's just because it sort of fits as a theme. Hell, if it was done right, its ability to hijack the body of the still living victim could be suitably horrifying, especially if you make the eye actually camouflage, like the mimetic skin of some cuttlefish, and they can appear in places where eyes are horrifying, since it propagates inside warm bodies. Make the thing a mollusc that mimics the organs of its foes, and eyes are used much like eye-spots to startle people.
The plant might also work; don't know what it could do or how it operates, but it might have something. But I don't care for the tick things and the other one. Also they're being used as stupid monsters, because that's probably the impression Hawley got back when Scott was dumb enough to think this show could be good and spoke with him.
In the comics they become the apex predator of all but what is seen to be their homeworld, where there's a monster that eats them for breakfast. They also lowkey terraform planets which have fallen to them. They are smarter than most animals, likely even recognizing their reflection, but there's little to no spark there barring their queens.They have to show what the result of a Xenomorph infestation is, other than everyone dies. Does the hive consume the planet and then go dormant? Or do you get "spooky" jungles with xenomorphs who are now just Jurassic Park raptors? One implies a designed purpose, the other implies that they are beasts who have an ecosystem. Of course these questions will never be answered. So really the Xenomorph is now Jason Vorhees.
A favorite alternate take of the xenos I liked from a comic was they were the Great Filter. In the comic, it talks about how any race who becomes space faring will inevitably spread the thing like a great cosmic cancer. It will then cull off most lifeforms that it can infect, before they go dormant and die. It's hinted that Earth may have had them walk upon it based on a very few spurious fossils found in very old sedimentary rock. Like 3 billion years old.The Aliens have to have a purpose other than kill. That implies some greater threat. Of course the franchise will just be high concept slasher flicks. Or whatever this thing is Hawley is trying to write.
It also sucks because it's right there, but nahh. "Creatives" want to pretend their garbage fanfic takes which were already done in the setting and is right there for all to see is the better move. Even though it's fucking retarded.I feel bad for those guys who spent all that time meticulously constructing the RPG setting and timeline that tied together and reconciled all the disparate and conflicting elements of all the films, comics, novels, short story anthologies, unused screenplays, etc in a way that was thematically and aesthetically quite cohesive and also impressively comprehensive in terms of including just about everything from the previous canon media, even the weird modern Ridley Scott shit or more obscure novels and comics, not just the much beloved fan favorites in the main film series.
It seemed like they had been commissioned to create the RPG by 20th Century Studios not purely as a media product of its own, but as a lore bible or reference for future novels and media, setting up lots of potential conflicts and storyline archetypes.
AvP 2 the game has a person sleeved into a synthetic to save their life. It was done because they nearly died to a xeno attack as a young and snobbish scientist who is the son of a very important member of Wey-Yu's higher ups, specifically a manager/scientist who was a part of their synthetic division. It also actually explored already what this effect does; the mind template tends to struggle with its new existence, since the person tends to get mentally fucked by the experience. It also struggles to keep the engram stable; new personality traits sometimes emerge, and they tend to slowly become unstable.
For whatever reason Disney and Hawley chose to then do this to kids, and then make it creepier by having the actors infantilize the kids they are supposed to be (they're fucking 12, not 6), and talking about their body functions. Yeah no, the alien being subtlely rapey and sex involved does not excuse you from advocating noncery. Die in a fire.
Exactly. If I had to make an Alien TV show, this would've been one of the first pitches I'd have suggested for it, where you show that the many tendrils of a conglomerate that owns worlds do not always know what the other parts do, or how they step on each other's toes at times.Exploring the W-Y branches would be interesting since it was made during that age where the fear of Japanese was still prevalent in so much media and people's writings.
It's not canon, but given RatCo's incompetence, they're going to try and force it to be.AvP even explores on it where the American branch CEO dude was sort of the usual business pragmatic but not so retarded to keep going for an alien they keep losing to. The guy simply wanted to 'make a mark on someone' and did a heroic sacrifice against a Predator because the monster saw him nonthreatening for having cancer.
While I have no idea how canon AvP is to the Alien franchise as a whole, especially when both franchises are trying to fuse for real when it was simply a fun crossover movie like Freddy vs Jason, this implies that stupid decisions are from the Japanese branch...
Not that it matters, since I ain't treating any of that shit canon.
There's a reason the comics over the years were smart enough to come up with other megacorporations who sometimes repeat the same mistake or do something new with it. A favorite of mine was the one where they didn't even want the monster; they just wanted the hormones it secreted because it made for fantastically potent performance enhancing drugs.I'm not even a lorefag, but it is just really weird that W-Y is treated as this 'generic bad guy corp', when AvP explored on it and was never poked again. There are only so many times W-Y can go full retard before people start questioning what the hell is going on in there and why does it want the Xenomorph so badly.
They make their money because much like in cyberpunk dystopias they have a fuckload of subsidiary branches and departments. One of their biggest money makers was their dominance over computing and synthetic designs; the MU/TH/R systems and quite a few synthetic lines are either ones they personally designed or they bought out competition for. For example, at one time they owned Hyperdyne, the company that made Ash's model.How does Wayland-Yutani make money? They don't appear competent at anything.
They also had a sizeable portion of the starship jump drive technology as well as owning a lot of shipping companies as subsidiaries. Lastly they made a lot of money on terraforming projects and on making fire-arms. Wey-Yu has a pretty strong gunmanufacturing industry, only rivaled by a few others like Armat and Heckler-Koch (yep, they're still around too).
They also have other divisions, like reverse-engineering and bioweaponry, but their big money makers tended to be tech aligned, specifically computer systems.
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