Alien: Covenant/Alien Series thoughts.

[XYZpdq Jr.]

But the prosthetic makes it look like his entire face and jaw are smashed off of his body and only an android could have survived.

yeah tbh I thought that was supposed to show he was an android and was just lying to her

 

[Adamska]

yeah tbh I thought that was supposed to show he was an android and was just lying to her

It's because they shot and played with both reveals of lying human or another android because of the very fucked writing and war with the producers leaving a schizophrenic shot arrangement. He's supposed to be human.

 

[Gog & Magog]

"Get away from her you bitch!" is one of the lamest girlboss moments in movie history.

"Get away from her you bitch!" ain't a "girlboss" moment. Its a mother's moment.

 

[74164978231]

Aliens has tons of garbage aspects. The Queen looks horrible moving in some scenes as you can tell it's just being pushed on a cart. The soldier Xenomorphs are clearly underpaid stuntmen walking in a rubber costume and look amateurish. "Get away from her you bitch!" is one of the lamest girlboss moments in movie history. Meant for faggots in movie theaters to clap to while shoveling popcorn into their mouths.

This guy loves Covenant.

 

[Pina Colada]

It's a horror franchise. The fact that Hicks, Newt, and Ripley all die is fitting. The lack of explanation for how the eggs got onto the ship is poor writing. It really only makes sense if Bishop somehow hid them and allowed the humans to get infected on purpose. Ridley Scott had Shaw die off screen so he clearly doesn't mind removing characters that way either.

But everything with Alien 3 was just sloppy. I still laugh at them leaving that terrible shot of Michael Bishop getting hit with a pipe and his face hanging off of his body proving he was human because he bleeds. But the prosthetic makes it look like his entire face and jaw are smashed off of his body and only an android could have survived.

Aliens has tons of garbage aspects. The Queen looks horrible moving in some scenes as you can tell it's just being pushed on a cart. The soldier Xenomorphs are clearly underpaid stuntmen walking in a rubber costume and look amateurish. "Get away from her you bitch!" is one of the lamest girlboss moments in movie history. Meant for faggots in movie theaters to clap to while shoveling popcorn into their mouths.

The Virgin “G-get away from her, you bitch.” Romulus Memberberry
The Chad “GET AWAY FROM HER, YOU BITCH!!” Ripley Supreme

Which way, Kiwi?

 

[TheHarbinger]

This guy loves Covenant.

Nah. Covenant and Prometheus aren't even Alien films. They are just Ridley Scott's ancient aliens scripts that couldn't get produced without xenomorphs. But now the magic black goo has become canon and the newest Alien show will have xenomorphs on Earth. People ripped on Shane Black for making a terrible Predator film. But Ridley Scott wanted to make Jesus an Engineer from space who was crucified and it dooms humanity to an alien invasion. The difference being that the studio prevented some of Scott's dumb ideas but let Shane Black practically film every idiotic thought in his head.

Autism and Predators is probably the lowest point of both series. But Engineer Jesus would have been endless mocked to death and would have turned the franchise into a laughing stock.

 

[CervixHammer]

Finally, after 38 years, we know whether Predators have ears or not:
(Empire)

Yes, meet Dek, a Yautja who – by the brutal standards of his tough-as-nails race – is seen as the “runt of the litter,” Trachtenberg says. Cue a mission to prove himself. The filmmaker puts Dek – played by Dimitrius Schuster-Koloamatangi – in the lineage of stoic outcast heroes like Conan The Barbarian and Mad Max. “He’s a thing of few words, pretty blunt,” Trachtenberg teases. “He cuts straight to the point. Literally and figuratively.” Since that’s Dek’s father wielding that weapon in our exclusive image above, you can guess how our protagonist has ended up that way. (We’re guessing there’s not a lot of nurture in this particular Yautja family.)

>He’s a thing of few words
As opposed to the endless monologuing from previous Predators?

 

[CervixHammer]

Seems like Prometheus, Covenant and Romulus are not canon to Alien: Earth. (Archive of Vanity Fair article):

Yutani (Sandra Yi Sencindiver, who played the stealthy adviser to the queen in Apple TV’s sci-fi show Foundation) controls an old-money fortune along with about a fifth of the planet’s industry. “The Yutani side is a matriarchal corporation,” Hawley says. “Her grandmother ran the company, and then her mother ran it, and somewhere there was a merger with Weyland. Now Yutani is trying to navigate being the second name in the corporation, holding on to power and managing the geopolitics on a planet where there’s five corporations that control everything. In the end, they all just want to be a monopoly.”
Long ago, Yutani’s grandmother sent the Maginot on its hunting and gathering mission to deep space, and she considers the creatures they’ve harvested to be a kind of family heirloom. They’re also the key to wealth-generating biological innovation, which is why Prodigy wants them too.
The crew of the Maginot has not aged at all during their trip due to hypersleep chambers that put them in stasis on the ship. Characters like Cyborg security officer Morrow (played by Babou Ceesay, of the British crime series Wolfe) must grapple with the world moving on without them after surviving the crash. As Hawley says, “He’s a man coming back to a planet in which everyone he knows is dead, and he feels like somebody took his life’s work. He spent 65 years getting these creatures, and now the Prodigy Corporation is just going to take them?”

65 years puts the launch of the Maginot in 2055, while the Prometheus was supposed to have left in 2091 and before the W-Y merger. And the Maginot + its crew are using the Nostromo-era W-Y logo with the wings and typeface (Pump Demi) which suggests the merger was before 2055:

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

like Prometheus, Covenant and Romulus are not canon to Alien: Earth

that almost warms my withered nerd heart

 

[Adamska]

Seems like Prometheus, Covenant and Romulus are not canon to Alien: Earth. (Archive of Vanity Fair article):

That's not going to save it, since by having this show take place before the first movie, they've already set themselves up for failure as far as I'm concerned. Terminator: Genisys and Dark Fate both did something similar, and yet both were shittier than the movies they claimed they're ignoring to make a "better" movie.

It's still being set before the first movie. The events for this pile of shit are still going to be used retardedly as the motive for Wey-Yu despite how the first movie never established they precisely knew what it was. It's still going to have Ghost in the Shell's Major at home, as written for the Modern Audience. It's still going to have the action man cry on camera when he realizes Major at Home is his dead sister. It's still going to have a brown person minstrel show to pretend they're progs. It's still going to have a really dumb immortality plotline stolen from a damn near 30 year old game that did that plot a lot better. It's still going to use that fucking siren that they don't understand the purpose of from a trailer made 50 years ago.

It's still going to suck.

 

[TheHarbinger]

Seems like Prometheus, Covenant and Romulus are not canon to Alien: Earth.

I'd guess that this show has a few Predator franchise references to it. And the upcoming Predator movie is going to tie into Alien as well.

It's still going to suck.

Yes but it will get 9/10 IMDB, 97% on Rottentomatoes, glowing reviews on AvPGalaxy and reddit, and probably tons of bot and commercial spam all over social media and even some forums. People proclaiming it the best science fiction show of all time. The most original story that they've ever seen.

 

[Adamska]

glowing reviews on AvPGalaxy and reddit

There's a reason I compare fans nowadays to junkies and reference the product as tainted goods, and this is an example of that.

 

[CervixHammer]

And the upcoming Predator movie is going to tie into Alien as well.

I can't wait for the inevitable AvP that comes after Badlands to completely whiff the most obvious crowd-pleaser of bringing back the Colonial Marines in favor of something like the chick from Prey teaming up with the Predator from Badlands.

 

[CervixHammer]

And here's the article from the new issue of Empire:


and the Predator Badlands article:

 

[CervixHammer]

From SFX magazine.
I'm seeing a bit of Legion in that first picture, with Wendy, Roy Batty Kirsch and Dame Sylvia and the big one of Sydney Chandler/Wendy at the end. (New) Siam's gonna be the witness.
Redditards and AVPgalaxy are timeline sperging, even though there's obviously going to be a time jump at some point. Wendy's supposed to be the first "hybrid", the rest of the Lost Boys probably aren't going to be freshly transferred into robot bodies five minutes before the Maginot crashes. Fucking lol if most of the show ends up being set after Aliens/Alien 3.

I remember conversations with Damon Lindeloff, back when we were both at ABC and
he was making Lost.

No you don't, you're hallucinating. There was never a show called "Lost". Just like there was never a fourth Alien movie with Ripley in it or two Alien vs Predator movies.

Here's the second trailer:

 

[ZMOT]

Alien vs Predator

I like the first one tho. it was nicely self-contained (and thus can be easily ignore), didn't break the lore (too much) and quite a bit before the girlboss era so it was acceptable.
it was a serviceable action movie that I feel didn't waste my time, and tbh that's pretty much what I at least expect from the franchise.

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

I like the first one tho. it was nicely self-contained (and thus can be easily ignore), didn't break the lore (too much) and quite a bit before the girlboss era so it was acceptable.
it was a serviceable action movie that I feel didn't waste my time, and tbh that's pretty much what I at least expect from the franchise.

AvP 1 wasn't great but it's a lot less bad than its reputation

 

[Adamska]

If you really only want CGI fights, AvP is okay, especially if you watch the R version. The reason I tend to rate it pretty low is because the protagonist was a flat plank of wood and the ensemble of humans barring Weyland and maybe like two other people had efforts to make them interesting and make you care about them. You sort of need something to enjoy in between the CGI key jangling IMO. I also always felt like that movie could've really benefitted from another 20 minutes or so of film to fix its kinda fucked pacing and give you time to actually build tension, improve ensemble dynamics, and that sort of shit.

Also doesn't help that it's not as good at even that as the film which made it happen; Freddy vs. Jason was just better as a spectacle film and more interesting. And I'm kind of iffy on slashers, since too many do the same mistake of not getting good victim actors to make you give a shit.

Redditards and AVPgalaxy are timeline sperging, even though there's obviously going to be a time jump at some point. Wendy's supposed to be the first "hybrid", the rest of the Lost Boys probably aren't going to be freshly transferred into robot bodies five minutes before the Maginot crashes. Fucking lol if most of the show ends up being set after Aliens/Alien 3.

It'd slightly improve the show's chances of not being shit if they did shift it forward totally, but I'm not assuming anything. The time skip at best is more likely to be a bit after losing the Nostromo just as a sop to justify the rest of the stupid shit since Ridley Scott's producing and the guy only fucking talked to him. It also will not unfuck the other concerns I listed about this film.

I've basically just taken to calling this crap the "Hack Scott Timeline" and cutting it out for the most part in my head, starting with Prometheus, since it's clear he rewrote history to claim this film as his even though he wasn't interested, and only returned since he started only making mixed to shit films after Gladiator.

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

Freddy vs. Jason was just better as a spectacle film and more interesting

the only major flub that had was not getting Jason Mewes to play Jay

 

[BrunoMattei]

the only major flub that had was not getting Jason Mewes to play Jay

Fanboys always complain about Kane Hodder getting replaced but I think the bigger snub was Betsy Palmer not coming back as Mrs. Voorhees one last time.

I think I'd give Freddy VS Jason a 7.5 out of 10. It would have obviously been better had it come out in the 80's at the peak of both franchises and it wouldn't have had any CGI gore. But overall, it's fun and it was a good send off to both franchises before the remakes and reboots.